HC Spear Zon

[Master Zap]

worthwhile to build around Impale and Fend, the two seemingly "broken" skills.? I am going to try it

Last night on SP , I used the editor the make a impale zon using ebotd ghost spear and treachory. She attacked way faster then people give impale credit for. This works out faster then my melee necro and only a couple frames slower then a Bezerk Barb. She was rocking out basicaly 2-15K with a rediculous chance of doing double damage :jig:

I was thinking use a bow on switch to freeze the packs with FA, then go to town impaling. This coupled with Decoy and valk seems like it should overcome the skills shortcomings. I am thinking playstyle like a shockwave bear.. Walk up , stun/freeze and then 1 shot em :)

1-2 attacks a second RawR!
any of you try a zon like this?

zon skillage something like :
20 impale
20 fend
20 pentrate
rest in decoy and I'd get valk from harmony on switch (for the FA)

no d/a/e
and enough points w/gear to have 70-80% chance of critical strike




this is would be my second spear zon , 1st to use maxed impale

[STINGER]

I never did one in LOD to get all the extra speed in LOD so I really couldnt do Impale but I have made a couple Fend Zons and they can work fine its just all about speed and taking care of immunes and staying out of big packs. There is no doubt they can kill. Not real sure how the no d/a/e would go, i see the point of going without it but I just dont know.

[YogiRat]

Unless you had another source of IAS it looks like one impale would take you 23frames if I read the zon tables (http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=5761205&postcount=6) correctly. (thanks again Kijya):thumbsup: God that is slow!! You will die with that attack speed w/o d/a/e.

Fend is a way better skill. You can kill anything non PI with it and you don't even need an ebotd to do that. Still, without the dodges you are extremely vunerable.
It can be done though.
Good luck,

[prion]

Impale is not 'broken', it is very poorly designed :tongue:

[AgentMarth]

One thing,

While you will be using the Harmony to summon Valk therefore leaving you the option of not getting D/A/E for the bugginess, I am pretty sure the moment you switch back to the spear side that she will poof, leaving her pretty useless unless you stay on the FA side for a while.

But why not try it, I say go for it. I'm even going to be starting up a Conviction Zealot soon, maybe even today if you wanna start up with me.

[Master Zap]

Unless you had another source of IAS it looks like one impale would take you 23frames if I read the zon tables (http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=5761205&postcount=6) correctly. (thanks again Kijya):thumbsup: God that is slow!! You will die with that attack speed w/o d/a/e.

Fend is a way better skill. You can kill anything non PI with it and you don't even need an ebotd to do that. Still, without the dodges you are extremely vunerable.
It can be done though.
Good luck,



Looks like I'll have an 18/19fpa impale
that's using a ghost spear (base 0)
60ias Botd rw
45 ias treachory
20 ammy

10 belt cake ias if using nos, preffered Tgods
20-30 gloves, LOH or Dracs here

Impale IAS Breakponts (Spears_
I need 110ias for 19fpa , 140 for 18fpa


Marth:

you want to use fanat instead :P , you know I need it (conviction zealots are a blast!) that would put me at... 14fpa! (doesnt sound so bad anymore). I wont be starting this char until my stinkin lld pally is done (level 20 something of 34)


I do know that Fend is a very strong and viable attack , damage comparable to any zealer or better , just fend , cb/ow and dracs would easily get me through the game. It's impale that I'm really looking to use mostly.

[YogiRat]

My bad, I should read more closely. I see ebotd and I asume war pike. That is still darn slow though.

[Barrynor]

forget impale. its interruptable, and with an 18-19 framer, EVERYTHING will interrupt you, or trigger an D/E/A animation ending your Impale. Bad idea... baahaaad! Fend's ok though, especially coupled with Jab for bosses and a little CB loving.

[xXxfunbobxXx]

sara likes crazy builds go sara good luck i guess :)

[Raith]

Do it, try and pull it off with an abusive sol build. :O

[WrongdayJ]

I'd be very interested to see if this build is viable.

I've always kinda wondered about Impale. Seems like it'd be fairly descent if you can get some serious IAS. I mean- Valks use the skill and they seem to be able to dish some fairly respectable damage.

Good choice on the Treachery, too. The IAS will be very welcome and the Venom will make that sluggish attacks hit that much harder (and boy will you need it :azn: ), and since you will be taking hits. . .the Fade and 20% Faster Hit Recovery will come in handy, too.

[Master Zap]

I'm not expecting Hammerdin kill speeds , but the combo of Freeze/decoy/valk and a prudent playstyle means I shouldnt be getting inturrupted much, Also not using D/e/a for this reason.

Raith, you know it did go through my head, but I cant stack enough pdr and ias to pull it off so no crazy Sol stuff like I normaly love pvm.

treachory rocks for anything that uses IAS , throw in 15% dr , 60 all res, venom and yeah the mods are gravy :)

[Barrynor]

Good! That's the spirit! Someone says no, so you're gonna do it :D

[Master Zap]

Good! That's the spirit! Someone says no, so you're gonna do it :D


Ladies perogative right? :girly:

[Tai.]

For the last time Sara, you are not a lady :)

[AgentMarth]

While you will be using the Harmony to summon Valk therefore leaving you the option of not getting D/A/E for the bugginess, I am pretty sure the moment you switch back to the spear side that she will poof, leaving her pretty useless unless you stay on the FA side for a while.

Isn't that gonna be an issue? If I am right, you wont be able to have a Valk and be impaling at the same time. Or will the Valk stay up? I'm curious to know.

And lol at Tai

[prion]

i am curious about that too, usually the minions wil poof when you weapon switch

[Master Zap]

I dont have the answer on the harmony valk switch. I dont find that I need a valk and havent muled on the bow to try it. Instead I use buriza with that 1 point in FA. Buriza picked for it's respectable phy damage. More important to me is the pierce mod and added cold freeze duration. I find I only use this bow when IM is around or on packs of shooty monsters to allow me to run up unscathed

Fend is fabulous attack, this has become my bread and butter attack.
I also decided in only a few points in penetrate. Both impale and Fend get hefty Ar bonuses so I dont *need" more ar. I've maxed charged strike instead for another pi option and will put the rest that chain lightning esq spear skill. This was picked to save hard points. Light fury requires wasted points in those poison attacks..

Using ebotd Ghost spear, I have tons of leach/damage. Even with what I consider crappy res faded ( 30-50's in most except lightning at 90%) she doesnt have any issues staying alive

If I could do it again, I'd only max Fend and max out FA and it's syngeries

She of course Guardian'd

so just following up
I have roughly
2-9K fend
2-18K impale
50% ish chance of critical
45% ish chance of deadly strike (highlords+ gface)
60% chance of crushing blow ( gface+goblin toes)

[AgentMarth]

Congrats Sara on a build well done.

Now go toe to toe with a pimped out Valk, and see who survives!