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wrayth
10-10-2007, 06:45
Well i decided to make a magic finding summon master

20 raise skeleton
20 skeleton mastery
20 corpse explosion
1 in each curse
1 in bone armor
1 in revive
1 in summon resist
put as much as i can in bone armor synergies

equipment
homounclous
arm of king leoric
upped goldwrap
3os minion skull with 3x ptopazes
nagel ring 29%
skulders ire ptopazed
39% chance guards thinking on upping just for the heck of it
dwarf star ring
33%mf boots


is king leos arm and homounculos going to be enough for skills ect?

i want atleast 300 mf with having atleast 75 resist all in hell.

anyone have an idea of how to pull this off?

i might be able to sacrafice my two rings for better reisist rings, ammy is up to what i find best for resists. allready have a 30% gheeds

BlargX
10-10-2007, 07:21
I've been seeing 250 suggested as fine for magic find. If others can back that up, you could have more wiggle room on some items.

Blizzatch
10-10-2007, 09:57
I don't even use AOKL any more. And I don't have 75% resists.

I can run anything in Hell fast, but I have Enigma, which helps a lot.

I use:

Ali Baba
Shako w/p topaz
Enigma
Homun w/p diamond
War travs
Upped Goldwrap
Chance guards
Ammy w/ +2 summoning + resists or mf, I forget which.
2 mf rings


I have 13 skeletons with my gear, which is plenty for me.

With charms and gear, I have about 500% MF, which is probably overkill, but what are you going to do.

When I want to go up to 75% resists, I put on a Kira's, it gets me there.

If you don't have Enigma, certain areas will be harder/take longer. Try and save up. It makes the Arcane Sanctuary doable, and the WSK much easier and faster. You can use a teleport ammy till you get enigma, but it's expensive.

If you don't have charms/annilus/torch for enough skills, pre-buff with AOKL.

I would consider using the Homun all the time, for resists and skills.

But, it's pretty hard to screw up an MF necro. I personally think your mercs equipment is as or more important than your own. There are tons of threads on that in this forum.

Greyeagle
10-10-2007, 15:50
Judging by your current list of equipment, I would guess that you aren't rich enough for my goal equipment (which covers res and roughly your target mf). There are a couple ways to work towards getting your end-gear.

One is to MF looking for good finds to trade away. If you go this route, I'd suggest playing careful and forgoing 75 res all. Summoners can play almost anywhere (carefully) without max res. I notice you didn't point out an investment in dim vision. That skill, with some points behind it, can make playing without max res a breeze. It will stop the ranged attacks which is the only things that will ever worry you. Still, you should be able to play with low res and pile on the MF.

The second way, and usually the way I get my first start on gear is to ignore MF and run for charms. A pally combat and sorc charms, and any skiller with life, are worth quite a bit in trade. One pally combat charm and one cold skiller with life got me my enigma this ladder. And, as far as I know, mf does not help finding charms. So, load up your res with whatever left-over you have for MF and go kill lots of monsters quickly. You can hunt anywhere in hell, and even late nightmare for charms like these.

Your first goal should be enigma. Until then, as suggested, use a teleport ammy. The two tools are used differently due to expense. Only use the ammy to group up your army occasionally, or to get past choke points. Enigma has it's own play style, which you will discover all on your own after getting it. :)

GotFriana
10-10-2007, 15:58
equipment
homounclous
arm of king leoric
upped goldwrap
3os minion skull with 3x ptopazes
nagel ring 29%
skulders ire ptopazed
39% chance guards thinking on upping just for the heck of it
dwarf star ring
33%mf boots


is king leos arm and homounculos going to be enough for skills ect?

i want atleast 300 mf with having atleast 75 resist all in hell.

anyone have an idea of how to pull this off?

i might be able to sacrafice my two rings for better reisist rings, ammy is up to what i find best for resists. allready have a 30% gheeds

I thought necro heads could only have 2 sockets? 2 Ptopazes in a Minion Skull will grant you Light resist not MF, I d stick to the homunculus socket it with a PDiamond for more resists. I d suggest you get a Torch as soon as you can and a shako or a +skills circlet, Necro torches are cheap and you dont have to worry about the stats, this way if you need to resummon in a rush you dont do it on such low +skills with your MF gear. You dont need resist, they can all be in the negatives as long as you are quick with your curses, you may have problems in WSK with souls though. You can summon first with your AoKL and then switch to an Ali Baba for more MF and GF. A +skills amulet will help a lot too, it can have some resist or some mf if you are lucky.

Edit: If you want your resist maxed you would have to add some expensive pieces of equip, Homunc+Pdiamond already give 59, 3 Anya quests +30, add to that a low Torch let s say +12 and low anni +12, IK belt and high Nat s boots, add to that rare rings with resist, resist charms (fire and light), Maras amulet, if its only for MF you dont need to worry too much about poison res. This more or less will leave you with high resists, you could put an Um in a shako or a +3summon circlet. This is not the only possible equip is only to give you ideas.

wrayth
10-10-2007, 21:49
sorry its not a minon skull its one of the elite gold masks. think it might be a demonhead mask. did not mean to confuse the helm with a shrunken head.

i would hate to get rid of my skulders ire just for an enigma. skulders ire is the one peice of mf equipment that will yield the most mf for me.

Tobias
10-10-2007, 22:23
I am wearing Full Trang's with the helm and armor ptopazed. I wear a set of low wartrav's, 27 nagel, 11res all 35%mf ammy and a spirit broad sword. I have a +2 summon ammy and +3summon wand to get army started. With all self found charms, I have 225 mf and full resist. I have no trouble with anything in hell.

Ed from Russia
10-10-2007, 22:45
My gear is:
- Homunculus
- Arm of King Leo
- Skullders Ire (w/ PTopa)
- Harlequin's Crest (w/ PTopaz)
- Upped Goldwrap
- Chanceguard
- War Travellers
- 2 x Nagelring
- Amulet +3 to Summoning
- low Necro torch.
- Switch: Gull and Rhyme Spiked Shield

That gives me 14 skellies (and 8 mages because I didnt max this skill), which is plenty for me. It's over 300% MF, with additional 125% on switch for bosses. The main drawback is that my resists are quite low (but positive with some resist charms), but unless I run into a group of Champion Gloams and Dim Vision doesn't work, I never have any problems.

Blizzatch
11-10-2007, 09:47
sorry its not a minon skull its one of the elite gold masks. think it might be a demonhead mask. did not mean to confuse the helm with a shrunken head.

i would hate to get rid of my skulders ire just for an enigma. skulders ire is the one peice of mf equipment that will yield the most mf for me.

Enigma gives you MF too. I used Skulder's until I got enigma, and I'll never go back.