View Full Version : Zune redux
{KOW}Spazed
03-10-2007, 17:46
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071003-asecond-attempt-at-making-applesauce-microsoft-launches-new-zunes.html
Microsoft seemed to have been listening to people. There are some interesting features on there, but I think they are still missing a nice tie in to the system. Everyone I've known with a Zune has been pretty disappointed in how it syncs with the system, but it looks like they helped that some too.
I'm interested in how the battery life stands up with all that wifi access. They still look ooglay to me, then again Ballmer said he liked it so who knows. . .
I'll wait till Google makes a digital media player.
{KOW}Spazed
03-10-2007, 18:21
I'll wait till Google makes a digital media player.
Wait until the gPhone comes out. . .
TakeMyCrabs
03-10-2007, 18:25
At least now it works with Vista. Before it didn't even work with Microsoft's newest and "best" OS.
SaroDarksbane
03-10-2007, 18:25
Microsoft seemed to have been listening to people.
Does. Not. Compute.
TakeMyCrabs
03-10-2007, 18:32
Does. Not. Compute.
All the wrong people.
Two things... they got rid of the brown that I believe was the best selling color of the original (or it was early on). What about DRM stuff? Wasn't there some BS involving Zune 1.0 not playing legal music from various music stores?
It doesn't match what I seek, so I certainly won't be getting one. (AKA, I'm just after an MP3 player, preferably with voice recorder for those random occasions... not that my current one is broken OR full)
TakeMyCrabs
03-10-2007, 18:55
Two things... they got rid of the brown that I believe was the best selling color of the original (or it was early on). What about DRM stuff? Wasn't there some BS involving Zune 1.0 not playing legal music from various music stores?
It doesn't match what I seek, so I certainly won't be getting one. (AKA, I'm just after an MP3 player, preferably with voice recorder for those random occasions... not that my current one is broken OR full)
Look up Samsun Sansa.
{KOW}Spazed
03-10-2007, 19:12
Look up Samsun Sansa.
I love how you call people who buy an iPod or Zune ignorant suckers. . .but then tell people to blindly follow your advice.
I love how you call people who buy an iPod or Zune ignorant suckers. . .but then tell people to blindly follow your advice.
which is kind of hard, because no such player exists.
i think he may be trying to point people towards the Sandisk Sansa.
TakeMyCrabs
03-10-2007, 19:29
which is kind of hard, because no such player exists.
i think he may be trying to point people towards the Sandisk Sansa.
Yes, I messed up the name.
I'm not telling people to buy it, I'm telling people to read some reviews and then make an informed decision.
{KOW}Spazed
03-10-2007, 19:29
which is kind of hard, because no such player exists.
i think he may be trying to point people towards the Sandisk Sansa.
I guess I should have made that more clear in my post, but that is what I was getting at.
Look up Sandisk Sansa M250.
That's what I have :tongue:
I didn't state everything I look for either. The interface for Sandisk's software is somewhat lacking.
I also don't just buy something new that fits my needs when I feel like it.:rolleyes: Usually.
I think I stated this in the last MP3 thread, but my current desire is the 2 gig version of this (http://www.mpio.com/product/productview_ml100.html?view=d), which I can't find anywhere, but check for periodically.
Though if Sandisk wants to sell me an otherwise decent mp3 player to match my Cruzer Titanium (http://www.gearlog.com/images/17795.jpg)... instant win!
TakeMyCrabs
03-10-2007, 21:09
I meant Sandisk Sansa View (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/breaking/sandisk-reinvents-sansa-view-as-price+slashed-nano-killer-297986.php%3Cbr%20/%3E).
I believe the release date is this Friday.
I meant Sandisk Sansa View (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/breaking/sandisk-reinvents-sansa-view-as-price+slashed-nano-killer-297986.php%3Cbr%20/%3E).
I believe the release date is this Friday.
I said I don't need (ok, I don't even want) video capability.
I don't want a wheel either. I prefer to accurately navigate the controls of my MP3 player without looking at it, even if it looks like I'm playing with myself.
What would really be awesome is a quick and easy way to change the interface code myself. And a better random function.
TakeMyCrabs
03-10-2007, 21:20
What would really be awesome is a quick and easy way to change the interface code myself. And a better random function.I noticed quite a few players where the random or shuffle will always result in the same order until you've changed the contents of the drive you're playing off of.
I noticed quite a few players where the random or shuffle will always result in the same order until you've changed the contents of the drive you're playing off of.
It's been the case with all three that I've owned too. It's software shortcut for simplicity, I think.
I'm surprised to see DRM free music will be offered in the music store.
TakeMyCrabs
03-10-2007, 21:37
It's been the case with all three that I've owned too. It's software shortcut for simplicity, I think.
The problem is there is no internal timer to seed the random function, so it uses the same seed every time. So if your mp3 player has a built-in clock, it should have a working random function.
Funny thing, I've found the same flaw in several media players (for PC) even thought your computer does have an internal clock.
TMC, that's what I figured with decent pseudo random generating would need. Are said media players anything we've ever heard of? :tongue:
I'm surprised to see DRM free music will be offered in the music store.
Amazon has DRM free and popular music in it's online store too. (I've never looked at the Microsoft one, whatever it's called and which I presume you are referring to)
Actually the 256kbps is almost a bad thing for smaller mp3 players – larger file size and whatnot.
I knew Amazon did, but I'm surprised Microsoft is jumping on the bandwagon, especially after the new "features" in Vista.
DurfBarian
04-10-2007, 03:52
Maybe MS looked at where the future was heading, for once in its life, rather than deciding that it would throw billions of dollars at forcing the future into its own desired mold. The iTunes+ songs on the iTMS are selling pretty well, and Amazon's store is all DRM-free. The music publishers are slowly developing a feeble brain of some kind.
I knew Amazon did, but I'm surprised Microsoft is jumping on the bandwagon, especially after the new "features" in Vista.
gah, i hate this argument. there's no DRM in Vista except for the product activation when you install it, which is just copy protection for windows itself.
the DRM is on the blu-ray and HD-DVD discs. blame the content companies. Vista doesn't add any extra DRM, it just allows you to play DRM-laden crap you already bought.
{KOW}Spazed
04-10-2007, 07:05
Which requires some pretty low system level stuff to be truly fitting of the standard. Microsoft does have some pretty big DRM schemes in the works; cable card, HD disks, selling HD content, stricter policy on their own software, etc. Those all take quite a bit of DRMing stuff to be going on in the background and making calls home to Redmond. It won't be putting DRM on CDs you rip(yet, but Sony is working on that), but it is still part of the system if you have the hardware installed.
I just carry around a gramophone on my shoulder boom-box style myself.
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