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SabakuNoTaira
19-09-2007, 05:46
Which one would be better for a Werewolf druid? If I were able to obtain a perfect version of each of these, which would result in more overall damage/survivability?
Verashiden
19-09-2007, 05:51
BotD, preferably in either a Zerker or GPA
superjayson
19-09-2007, 06:02
beast isnt a wolf weapon.
mustermann
19-09-2007, 07:33
what about botd in eth thundermaul?
Best damage u can get i think^^
Liquid_Evil
19-09-2007, 07:57
Highest damage number maybe, but not the most effective.
Great Poleaxe will yield a higher effective damage since it's speed is better.
mustermann
19-09-2007, 08:35
Hmm the raw damage should be a bit better and u make more 1hit kills.
On the other side u do more cb damage cuz of more hits.
Did anybody calc this though?
superjayson
19-09-2007, 08:39
yes and gpa is a more well rounded better choice.
mustermann
19-09-2007, 09:16
kk thx nice to know i got one on my mule but also got an eth tombreaver since this night so it will stay there*g*
SabakuNoTaira
19-09-2007, 14:12
Thanks for the answers. I'm just coming back to D2 after almost 2 years of downtime, so I forget a lot of the basics. For PvM in hell would it be more beneficial to use the zerker and a shield or go with the 2h GPA?
For PvM in hell would it be more beneficial to use the zerker and a shield or go with the 2h GPA?
There's no reason to go with shield on a PvM wolf, 2h all the way. More dmg & fast hit recovery is better than suffering blocklock. Also upped Ribcracker > BOTD GPA.
Verashiden
19-09-2007, 16:31
Nex is correct. Blocking is actually detrimental to a PvM Wolf.
SabakuNoTaira
19-09-2007, 22:27
Okay, thanks for the info on the Ribcracker and not using a shield.
Seeing as I'm pretty much a noob again, can i get some ideas for what my base stats should be looking like? How much Str, Dex, Vit should I have to fight effectively? Also what's the standard build for a PvM werewolf? Max - Werewolf, Lycanthropy, Rabies, Fury, and Oak Sage with the remaining points in synergies for Rabies?
Also what does upped mean?
Verashiden
19-09-2007, 22:51
Stats are generally:
Str - Enough for gear
Dex - Base if 2 handed or enough to wield item
Vit - Rest
Energy - None
Don't use Rabies for PvM. Trust me on this.
Upped means upgrading an item to its next item quality. In Ribby's case, you'll be upgrading it to the next class "Stalagmite".
SabakuNoTaira
19-09-2007, 23:17
Thank you again Verashiden. How do you go about upgrading the item?
Verashiden
19-09-2007, 23:29
1 Lum Rune + 1 Pul Rune + 1 Perfect Emerald + Exceptional Unique Weapon = Elite Version of Weapon
superjayson
20-09-2007, 00:07
that only works on ladder btw
SabakuNoTaira
20-09-2007, 00:21
Okay, well i'm non-ladder = /. Which weapon should I replace Ribcracker with then?
mustermann
20-09-2007, 00:33
buy a upped ribcracker there should be some after 3ladders;)
But u can take botd GPa instead i heard ZOD runes aren that expensive on nl...
Enigmers
20-09-2007, 00:46
buy a upped ribcracker there should be some after 3ladders;)
But u can take botd GPa instead i heard ZOD runes aren that expensive on nl...
USEast NL they don't count as hrs anymore.
mustermann
20-09-2007, 03:59
lol and what are the highrunes then?:D
Verashiden
20-09-2007, 04:15
Vex+ Normally
superjayson
20-09-2007, 04:50
yeah vex+ until someone tells you something completely different.
mustermann
20-09-2007, 05:58
i know that but if ZOD isnt a hr nothing should be a hr^^
USEast NL they don't count as hrs anymore.
Verashiden
20-09-2007, 06:45
It's also based on utility. Vex, etc. are a lot more useful than the rarest rune of all, Zod. Sickening, isn't it?
mustermann
20-09-2007, 07:16
Hmm i though ZOD was as usefull as VEX but ure right all the noobs want hoto for there nubadins so VEX>ZOD:D
But they also need ZOD for theyr noobish upped eth Zaka wich they think it gives u 50%more base smite damage...
Sama with my 2dex//11lr charm. Nobody wants it although its pretty much as rare and perfect as 20/17..:(
btw bout my wind druid: Just did two baalruns, fought some frenzytaurs (No problem) and a bunch of burning souls in throne (well...no convinction) and all no Problem.
I did this with Shako and Wartevelers :D
The only really problem is Lister and his stunning friends because they slaughter my mercc (dont want this!i like my brave fellow barbarian)but with Enigma=Teleport its no Problem staying away as long as they attack me and not my merc.
Then i cast Tornado as long as they are dead, got about 25% damage (stone skin Lister...).
I truly think i couldīnt have done this without storm and maxblock^^
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