Dirt Cheap Effective Lightning Javazon?

[DimeVision]

Well, to be honest, ive been watching a few of these casters of wooden shocky sticks kick the **** out of mostly ANYTHING they walk up to, and my curiosity has been piqued. :grin:

Is it possible to make a effective, yet cheap javazon that a person who doesnt have a barrel full of hrs ready to throw at any item they need can build? :tongue:

Please, fellow diablo enthusians, grace me with your ever expanding know-how.:fortuneteller:

Sincerely,

Dime 2 the Vision.

Btw, 300 rocks.

[Dacar92]

Is it possible to make a effective, yet cheap javazon that a person who doesnt have a barrel full of hrs ready to throw at any item they need can build? :tongue:


Yes. A lightning javazon can hand most critters their butts with cracked javalins. Max Charged Strike and Lightning Fury. The best weapon to find is a Titan's Revenge, which can be had for very little. In last ladder you could get a set for several pgems. This ladder, I am not sure what you'll pay, but even without one, you'll be able to get through the game. It will be more troublesome, however, because without the replenish mod, it will get tiresome going back to town all the time for repairs.

Get a merc with some decent damage, and a valk at level 17 and you'll do it. A lit javazon is a little overpowered in the current build, so it's easier. It is a skill based build helped out by equipment, but not so equipment dependant that it's impossible.

[Foxy Neko]

Depend what your light zon will be for...
If you want to run full hell with her...you better make an hybrid... light/FA... To be able to slay the light imu without your merc carrying an infinity. For this I advice you the Fishyzon (Find it in the guide library)...Really nice char and can be kinda cheap... I built her gear only with pgms and self found items...And she survive in hell pretty well...Of course she is not ready to run a full 8p game...But its a fun char to solo mf WS K
If you want to have fun...make a pure light to farm hell cow...Some ppl will say bliz sorc is better for that...but not as fun as a pure light ama...
Gear is cheap too and kinda the same for me in fact:
For the poor:
Helm: Valk helm (+2 ama; dual leach)
Armor: skulder ire (+1, lots of MF, socket an Um for the resi)
Weap: Titan (Its a must in a light built...beside a low one goes for few pgms only)
Shield: Spirit Monarch (you can find one for few pgms also) or stormshield with a light jewel socket (but it start to be more expensive)
Belt: Razortail (Some will advice Tgod...But i prefer razortail for the pierce...more efficient IMO)
Amu: Cat's eye (if cowing) Some +1/2 ama with resi if running hell)
ring: Manaheald if you lack mana Nagel for the mf...or some dual leach or resi ring...
Boots: War trav for the mf if u can afford it. if not Natalya, Ik boots can do fine also.

Dont forget to equip your merc if you use one and want to keep him alive with a good armor, some life leech and a descent weapon.
And your good to go.
Of course this is a gear for the poor so i dont advice Shako&Co....If you want to see the advice for the wealthy just go to see any light ama guide and they are all the same...shako , soj , coh etc...

So to resume...If you want to go everywhere make an hybrid like the fishyzon
If you want to have fun, make a pure light to cow....And when you are rich, give the merc an Infinity use a griffon helm, use some +x/-5 light jewel and cut anything in half.

[MalVeauX]

Heya,

I ran untwinked java with zero gear except what was on the ground or in the shop to level 77. They're that powerful. I soloed basically everything. I'm only having trouble in hell due to low resistance as I have nothing, literally. To give you an idea, I'm using a +2 amazon skill throwing spear. I'm still wearing some chipped ruby armor even. She went so fast through the levels, that I didn't bother changing gear.

I didn't even max fury. I went for the close range melee stuff. I chose the max block and high dodge/evade/avoid route, and went for Charged strike and eventually the chain lighting one because I personally have more fun with it. If you want raw efficiency, go with Fury of course. I liked having the high lighting damage and just use high attack speed to launch loads of 20+ hitting chain lightings into the crowd, while she easily blocked and dodged hits (I ended up making a Ryhme shield since I got a shael at the forge, so blocking and no freeze is just awesome, that's the best item she wears, laughably).

Seriously, javas are dumb powerful with synergy. Just point and click....

Cheers,

[DimeVision]

Thanks for the info.

Its nice to know that a lite javazon can use some cheap items to get through hell. Since i started ladder a few weeks ago me and my friend (who started ladder with me, made a rabies druid), were kinda poor, so godly or even high mediocre items are pretty much out of the question...but know i know i can FARM HELL COWS without a fortune worth of items.

But, is it possible to take down a lite immune with a lite javazon. Like just using regular throw? or is the damage like weak?

God praise forums, for without them id be still hugging my cracked buckler.

[MalVeauX]

Heya,

You won't tear through LI's without high physical damage. This is where your merc comes in, or your buddy who's playing with you who's not using lighting.

Don't focus on the lighting immune issue. Focus on killing lots of those who are not immune. :wink3:

Cheers,

[maiku]

But, is it possible to take down a lite immune with a lite javazon. Like just using regular throw? or is the damage like weak?

God praise forums, for without them id be still hugging my cracked buckler.

Lightning immunes are a problem if you don't have top-notch gear or a merc using an Infinity. They can significantly slow down killing. LI bosses (and I'm not referring to Andy, Meph, Diablo, etc.) w/ aura-enchanted guys are pure evil (think about Might, Fanaticism, Extra Strong, Holy Freeze, Conviction, Fire Enchanted, etc. You'll hate them all if you have to get close to them, and sometimes they can kill your merc and Valk quickly.). However, they can be squished, so long as you're not swarmed. High-level Valk + Act 2 Merc using a big stick = eventually dead LIs. You can also try jabbing them if you have nice damage on your stix. I think Foxy Neko recommended a good list of equipment, although I would suggest also considering having dual Ravenfrosts or Ravenfrost + leech ring. Ravenfrosts can be purchased for perfect gems and are fantastic rings. Their +dex will help your blocking and damage and the cold will help slow down enemies hit by your stix. I would suggest making an Insight polearm (Ral Tir Tal Sol) for your merc so he has a decent weapon to bash enemies with and to keep your mana supply up. At low levels, Insight Voulge is good. At higher ones, see if you can slap some +str equipment on your merc and get him to use an Insight Colossus Voulge. It's quite likely with a lot of runs, you'll get the items and runes to make these.

Other cheap equipment:
Tarnhelm for MF & +1 skills, Stealskull (10% IAS, dual leech, MF)
Twitchthroe, Treachery (Shael Thul Lem), Lionheart (Hel Lum Fal), or Silks of the Victor (+1, 5% mana leech)
Weapon: Titan's Fury is the best for throwing, but Thunderstroke can be good for Charged Strike javazons (very similar build to pure LF zon, except that you poke up close). Try to find rare javs or imbue matriarchal javelins so you can get ones with replenish as a mod. You can even survive on magical javs.
Boots: Rares with faster run and +20-30 mana on them and resists if possible. Gamble boots and ID all the rare boots you find. You can also try crafting some boots. Waterwalks could also be good. Don't know what they go for, though.
Gloves: +2 javazon gloves w/ IAS the best. However, these may be hard to come by. Try to find or buy +2/3 javazon gloves from one of the vendors or gamble them or 20% IAS gloves. You can use Laying of Hands if you want good fire resists, extra damage versus demons (only applies to the physical damage of your cast), etc. This can be had for a few perfect gems. Bloodfists or Hand of Broc if you need more life or life and mana leech respectively. Perhaps consider Frostburns if your mana pool is too low. You can also craft gloves. I think the best gloves are a Javazon are crafted gloves (ideal stats: +2 javazon skills, dual leech, 20% IAS, +dex or str, +20-30 mana, resists, knockback or crushing blow, etc.) and you may want to try that more and more after you get a lot of runes, perfect gems, and magical gloves to burn on crafting.
Helm: Gamble circlets like an addict. Getting a lot of money from fast kills shouldn't be a problem, so use your $$ to feed your gambling habit. :azn: Imbue circlets, tiaras, or diadems that you come across. They can get fantastic mods on them. +1 or +2 Amazon skills is the ideal. A nice +1 Amazon skills circlet may be had perhaps for perfect gems or mid runes. +Mana, resists, faster run, 2 sockets, etc. These are all what you want to look for on a nice circlet. You can also look for some magical circlets, as these occasionally have killer stats on them, like Artisan's blah blah of the Whale or Bahamut's/Artisan's blah blah of Life Everlasting. Don't be afraid to socket a nice magical circlet if it's a goody.
Interesting combos: IK boots, gloves, belt offer 25% IAS, 25% MF, lots of life, resists, and AR. Sigon's gloves, belt, boots offer 30% IAS, 10% life leech, and 50% MF, IIRC.

Up through NM, I suggest running bosses like Andy and Meph/Diablo for uniques; Countess and Canyon of the Magi (lots of monster packs for easy frying and items dropping) for runes (Tals, Rals, Orts, Thuls, Shaels, Sols, etc.). Do not try running Canyon in Hell difficulty, unless you have good equipment and some patience, as there are many LIs (Steel Scarabs, etc.) there, who can cause serious trouble. They are better tackled with a Frostmaiden, Bowazon, or Zealot.

[SirBeetle]

Thanks for the info.

Its nice to know that a lite javazon can use some cheap items to get through hell. Since i started ladder a few weeks ago me and my friend (who started ladder with me, made a rabies druid), were kinda poor, so godly or even high mediocre items are pretty much out of the question...but know i know i can FARM HELL COWS without a fortune worth of items.

But, is it possible to take down a lite immune with a lite javazon. Like just using regular throw? or is the damage like weak?

God praise forums, for without them id be still hugging my cracked buckler.

1 point jab takes them down ez for me, but I don't have a cheap javazon either :/

jab + merc should take them though.

[DimeVision]

aha.

thanks for the advice but to be ABSOLUTELY clear...

(i sound like im asking for a guide)

to make a generic lite javazon...

skill placement/stat allocation? PLZ?

I dont wanna screw up my zon by puting points into stuff i dont need.

You can even survive on magical javs.

btw thanks for the advice maiku the stuff is pretty cheap to get.

[Smackin]

Man, just make a pure lite zon with a lvl 17 valk. Go to charsi and buy a few sets of javalins or pick up a couple sets or cracked javalins in normal if u dont have gold. Merc? without good gear, hes gonna get fried, simple as that so u dont even need a merc. grab a wirts leg, make a cow, and go in naked with ur javs. herd the cows into a huge group, throw out ur valk and decoy, and throw ur cracked lightning furies and watch them fall. Seriously, u dont need anything. All u need is a set of cracked javalins to start ur road of richness, although I cant guarantee u how long it'll take.

[SirBeetle]

aha.

thanks for the advice but to be ABSOLUTELY clear...

(i sound like im asking for a guide)

to make a generic lite javazon...

skill placement/stat allocation? PLZ?

I dont wanna screw up my zon by puting points into stuff i dont need.



btw thanks for the advice maiku the stuff is pretty cheap to get.

Uh... this should be obvious.

max lightning fury and synergies, a 1-x points into dodge/evade/whatever the other one is. Valk is bad, don't use it, and throw a point into pierce as well.

Stats, only put points into enough str and dex so that you can use your gear, then the rest in vita (like every other build).

And for your merc, get an insight asap because light fury drains mana extremely fast.

[KremBanan]

If this is a 'Dirt Cheap Javazon', I would strongly suggest maxing Valkyrie. Even though a Java dont need godly equipment, a strong Valk is very nice to have when having very-low gear. Get 100% pierce (razortail should be available for a few pgs), some manaleech and a strong Valkyrie and you are good to go.

[DimeVision]

Ok, update.

Shes level 15 now, and all my points are into str.

Once she reaches 110 (for the equiptment i have) ill move onto dex for my titans i found.

after than rest into vitality.

Unless i should have my dex at 140+?

eh. Still, it should be fun. And YES i am going to do valkyrie so what skill should i give up of the 5 synergies for valk?

[KremBanan]

No need for more dexterity than needed for equipment when its PvM. You dont need to put any points in synergies for your Valk, she will be strong enough with the normal points spent in her.

[Smackin]

What shield are u gonna use? Are u goin pure vit or max block? Personally I never use max block on pvm chars, unless theyre tanks(hammerdin, barbs, melee sins). I suggest spirit monarch because the mods on it are simply unbeatable for a caster ranger type. However it does require 156str, which is pretty steep if u dont have the standard boost(anni, torch, enigma). If u dont have those, a 2pdiamond'ed mosers is unbeatable until u can acquire some sort of str boost to wear spirit so that u wont have to remake ur char if u get enigma later on and have too much str.

[KremBanan]

Since this is a dirt cheap Java I would expect a Spirit would be number 1 choice for shield. Even if you dont have Anni, Torch etc, the 156str is not an issue. Those str pts are worth it and if you add up the vit and mana you get from Spirit, you will ses that you dont loose much..

[phool]

go 0 d/a/e, 1 decoy, with spirit shield then pile all points into LF then CS then CS synergies. Jabbing stuff is a waste of time, stick to areas or spawns without many LIs. Make getting a low java torch, a white monarch and titans a priority, they're all extremely cheap if low and will do more for you than any similarly priced gear.

[DimeVision]

i have the runes to make my own spirit the only challenge is finding a 4os monarch :)

but yes i got two sets of titans today, bought one found the other in hell pits.

i got a silks of the victor, and upgraded my ward gothic sheild. i got howltusk atm but i plan to get something better in the future. Also on switch ill probably have my stoneraven but if thats a bad idea tell me.

At later lvls should i up my titans?

thanks for all the advice guys.

Have a wonderful day.