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hammersaway
28-08-2007, 18:29
(This is my first post, so I would love comments, and constructive criticism)

Hammer-Uberdin A.K.A “Destroyer Palladian” Guide

(NOTE: THIS IS A PvM guide only, the Destroyer Palladian build is meant for PvM, while there are applications for PvP you will need slightly different gear setup and a slightly different approach, this build guide though only covers PvM)

Why this build?
Simple, as a hammerdin you are the ultimate PvM Char in the game, just about nothing is immune to your attack, by the mid 80’s with decent gear you are dealing from 10-14k un-absorbable damage per hit. Not bad! I can solo any area in the game, rush anyone through hell difficulty, and magic find anywhere. The smite gear on switch really shines with you try running UberTristrem for the hellfire torches, you can solo this level without a problem.
I was just asked on battle net by someone who had just run ubertristram with me; “Hey, what was the build that you used to own the ubers?” If I am running the chaos sanctuary, rushing people or playing around in baal running games, I always get told “your pally rocks, how did you build him?” so I figured in light of this I would write this guide

Section 1: The build
Stats
• Strength-just enough for your gear
• Dex: I recommend getting max block with a high block percentage shield using holy shield and a high block percentage shield, something like 100 hard points by level 80, with your gear this will get you around max block
• Vitality: EVERYTHING you have left goes here
• Energy: Not a thing!

Skills
• Blessed Hammer: 20 This is your main attack, max this first
• Concentration: 20 this is what makes your attack really shine
• Vigor: 20 Synergy for your main attack
• Blessed Aim: 20 Another synergy for your main attack
• Holy Shield: 1-20 It is possible to max this, but it will take you til roughly level 94 if you do
• Smite: 1 point only here, with your plus to skills this really all you need. Over all Holy shield gives you more of a bonus to smite damage than this skill with this build
• Redemption: 1 point, pretty much a free rejuv potion every time you switch to it.
• Salvation: 1 point You will want to do this last, don’t put anything into until your 4 main skills are maxed

Your rough order is to max blessed Hammer, Concentration, Vigor, Blessed Aim, then worry about holy shield. It is important to note, that you should put at least one point into holy shield and concentration and redemption as soon as you can, but don’t start maxing them until you have maxed blessed hammer.
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And yes this is a total of 105 skill points to finish this build. That’s ok, you will complete this at level 94 with your plus skill quests, and honestly you will be at pretty much full strength after you have maxed everything and have a handful of points in Holy Shield anyway.

Section 2: Equipment:
(Hammerdin gear this is the gear you will use 95% of the time, for leveling, and PVM and even PVP, the only time you will change is going to be for ubers, and perhaps Diablo clone)



Helm:
• I recommend using a shako(harlequins crest) for the plus 2 to skills and awesome life and manna bonus. Also this has a 50% magic find bonus
• Other options are a Crown of Ages, but I think it’s too expensive and not worth it with only one point bonus to skills

Armor:
• There is only one choice for a Hammerdin, and that is Enigma. You will want this is some sort of light armor, Mage Plate, Arcane Plate, Wire fleece etc…

Shield:
• You will want a HOZ, upped preferably for the increased defense and smite damage. The HOZ gives you +2 to skills and +2 to combat skills which is a huge bonus for us.
• 2nd option Exile Vortex Shield exile has a defiance aura and put it in a vortex shield to gain crazy amounts of defense. The added 5% max resistances for cold and fire isn't too bad to have

Boots:
• For normal play I like War Travelers for the 50% magic find and other bonus, but sandstorm treks are a less expensive option.

Gloves:
• You are really looking for Faster Cast rate here, so your choices are magefists or trang-oul’s. If you need manna Frostburns are a good cheap choice also.

Belt:
• Well, I should not have to say it, but Arachnids Mesh is your top choice here. The plus 1 to all skills and faster cast rate
• Your other options is Verdungo's Hearty Cord-The standard melee belt includes everything, 40 to vitality (that's 120 life, kids) and 15% DR are not bad additions to your game.

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Weapon:
• Ok kids let’s be honest, what you need and you know this is coming is a HOTO. You just can’t beat this for a caster, it has that great plus 3 to all skills, +40% faster cast rate, +30-40 to all resists, +10 dexterity, +15% max mana, and +20 replenish life mods
Rings:
• Well I guess I don’t need to tell you that a stone of Jordan is a beast of a ring, plus one to skills addition to manna that would be my top choice for normal play.
• The Bul Kathos wedding band is a solid choice also for the plus one skill and addition to life you receive
• You might want to note for special uses you will want a wisp protector which adds lightning absorb, dwarf star which adds fire absorb and natures peace if you are running Nik hunting for destruction keys

Amulet:
• Top choice here would be a Mara’s kaleidoscope for the plus two to all skills, plus to resistances and plus to all attributes



Section 3: Ubers
What really makes this build shine is the ability to use the build to solo ubertristram. I used the straight hammerdin gear for everything else, but now is the time to switch. Why do I need a different set up for the ubers? Well the ubers have a EXTREMELY high regenerate rate and they come with a HIGH magic immunity and absorb.
So, what’s the way to deal with this, well it’s to switch out some of our gear for ubersmite gear and take advantage of crushing blow to kill the ubers. In case you don’t know, when you deal a crushing blow it takes a tenth of a monsters life away instantly, so stack the crushing blow and watch their life fall. It is important to note that when fighting the ubers there are a few other considerations.

• Crushing blow
• Resistances
• Lifetap
• Decent base damage


Ok, so how do we get all these things from our char? Well for starters we have one point in smite, so that’s going to be our main skill for ubering. Our shield, be it a exile or HOZ has a good base smite damage, with holy shield we have increased that drastically and while running our concentration aura you will show somewhere in the range of 1000-2000’s at around level 80 but in reality you will be dealing much more damage than what is shown when you add in crushing blow and open wounds, somewhere in the realm of 8,000 damage to be truthful.

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Then we will have to switch our our Enigma for a Chains of Honor. I know, I know, why give up enigma? Well, simple, mephisto loves to cast conviction which sharply lowers your resistances and we are going to need the COH for the +65 to all resistances it carries
Then we will want to put on our gore riders for the 15% crushing blow, add the Last Wish phase blade for the 60-70% crushing blow, plus to resistances, also it comes with a might aura which ups our damage and has the ability to cast fade which adds to your resistances also. Lastly the Last Wish phase blade has a chance to cast lifetap upon striking so once that casts whatever uber you are fighting they are done for. Life tap in case you don’t know is a necromancer skill that returns damage you dealt the enemy to life for your character, extremely useful against a very strong opponent such as the ubers.
Your second choice for a weapon would be a Grief Phase blade. The + damage mod on this gets added directly to your base shield damage, then increased by any enhanced damage, such as strength, concentration, fanaticism, smite.. the list goes on. Most of the mods on this don’t help a Destroyer, since venom won’t carry on smite, so the -% poison resist doesn’t help, and deadly strike also doesn’t carry. However, the damage boost is incredible.
For gloves we are going to use dracul’s graps, these gloves also have a chance to cast lifetap and 10% life stolen per hit, also it has a chance of open wounds, which will prevent the opponent from healing when that happens
For our helm we are going to use Guillaume's Face this helm provides 30% faster hit recovery and a whopping 35% crushing blow.

So to sum up your gear should look like this for fighting ubers
• Helm: Guillaume’s Face
• Gloves: Dracul’s Grasp
• Weapon: Last Wish Phase Blade/Grief Phase blade
• Shield: Hoz or Exile
• Boots: Gore Riders
• Armor: Chains of Honor

Rings, and Amulets keep the same, and I use my normal belt also.


Section 4: Notes and advice:

This build is not mercenary dependant but let me just tell you from experience using a mercenary is a HUGE bonus. Manna is going to be a problem for most hammerdins especially at lower levels, once you reach level 80 or so you can get by fine on your own, but for a worry free casting experience I use a mercenary.
The best kind of mercenary to use is going to be an act two defensive mercenary. This mercenary comes with a holy freeze aura which slows your opponents down so you have more time to mow them down with your awesome hammers before they get close to you. Also act two mercenaries are able to carry pole arms and that is going to be invaluable.

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• Weapon: Insight polearm
• Helm: Vampire Gaze
• Armor: Duress or Fortitude

For our weapon we want to equip the guy with an insight pole arm, simply because of the crazy amount of damage and the fact that it has level 10-17 meditation aura. This aura regenerates your manna extremely fast so you don’t have to worry about potions

The helm vampire gaze offers life leach to help keep him alive also offers damage reduction

The Armor you can choose between Duress or Fortitude. They are both high defense armor, the fortitude is what I currently use. Fortitude armor comes with a +300% to damage, plus to life and a 25-30 plus to resistances. That really puts together a hard hitting mercenary. The Duress armor offers a 30something chance of open wounds, and a 15% chance of crushing blow. I would recommend Fortitude for this build, but the final decision is up to you.

Over all my Merc, now level 88 deals 1-4K damage per hit by himself and has perfect resistances in hell. You should note that when we are fighting he is under the influence of my concentration aura because we have that always running, he deals just over 4-9K damage per hit, not too bad!

kykle
28-08-2007, 19:08
check out "the 1 pt smiter guide to uber tristram" - someone already beat you to this build

MedctnStn
28-08-2007, 20:34
that build i thought uses zeal + synergies instead of his proposed blessed hammer w/ synergies

hammersaway
28-08-2007, 22:00
The one point smite guides I found were zeal based guides, I wanted to focus on the hammer side of things

DustDrake
29-08-2007, 00:37
few correction for this guide
first and foremost Grieft NOT work for 1 point smite/1 point fana hammerdin - switch for 2x shaeled Haven's Light with +3 skills you will start kill ubers notably faster
COH again is not that ultimate choice - try Duress you'll see difference

Stats:
consider thise you need at least 142 str final to be able equip your upped HOZ (why HOZ must be upped I think obvious)
Torch/Anni/Mara at best 45 stats at worst 25 therefore aim for at least 105 base str for this built
Dex - that is easier - Raven Frost is "a must" ring no stone of jordan neither bul katos can beat "can't be frozen" and upward to 20dextr period

You missed Fanatism aura - thats a crucial - trust me you DON'T give a danm about base smite damage it can be 800 or 5000 it make small difference.. what is real killer of ubers is CB/OW/maximum attack speed for smite - therefore make sure you are at fastest possible smite rate - yes this mean you have to socket giullaume face with 15IAS jewel (good if with some secondary mode)
If you are intend ot use Exile then you don't need draculs - get Steel Rends (upward to 20str and upward to 60%ED)
You also missed Mediation - which is also 1 point wonder - redemtion wont help you against Ubers. Hell you can smite against chain manaburning Baal just with Meditation aura on
Buttom line - hammerdin using 1 point smite 1 fana tactic must have nearly 100% CB, over 50% OW and fastest frame rate for smite

As for hammerdin part ... here is a deal
if your hammer is 10K+ you can get away with 75fcr anything below - 125fcr a must also you have to have perfect pala spirit and here is why
Then you will be farming ubers - you WILL have to deal with minions - no matter how you slice it or dice - hammer is best way - therefore you need FCR. HOTO+PSpirit along will give you 75
Speaking about gloves - fortunally choice simple - trang gloves - +30CR, 20% FCR and higher deffense (and you know what do HS even with small deffense increase)
Choice of the rings - if you are rich Raven's and Wisp (can't be frozen and lighting absorb)

Speaking about tactics
I already told you that you don't care much about smite damage but resistance is a must true... Therefore - Salvation if your friend... With lifetap active and salvation on Mefisto will die within 30second even with like 500 smite damage displayed ... providing that you have close to 100% CB and massive OW.
Easiest way to get mefisto along is run along borders to upper left coner of map and slowly move toward closest building Mefisto will get body-pulled and you can pin him against wall of building. Other key of victory is namelock
Other 2 ubers are easy.... specially diablo. The only treat that can pose Baal is manaburn so be ready either switch on mediation or drink pots... Manaburn will not be a problem till Baal down to ~1-2% of life (CB will put him in stun-lock mode)

Lasty speaking about merc....
If you are stinky rich you might want to use Act 1 merc with Faith bow if not... I'd highly recomend act 2 NM holy freeze armed with reapers toll (decrify+holy freeze is one of the best crowd controler)

hammersaway
29-08-2007, 16:57
Firstly Thank you for your advice and feedback

you're correct I did miss the Fanatism Aura, I do have that on my char, but missed putting it in the guide, I will correct that.

About Crushing Blow, using Guillaume’s Face, Last Wish and Gore Riders (35+15+60) You have 110 Crushing blow which is plenty, in fact slightly overkill. Also Last wish and Chains of Honor I reccomend because of the insane resistances so I don't have to use Salvation as a crutch, in fact I don't run it at all when I solo ubers. Fade and that base 65 from chain plus my resistances from other items stack wonderfully.

I will give you a raven frost is a very useful item to have, and I will add that to rings

For the Merc for normal use I still say a NM act 2 Holy Freeze with Insight is the best, cause if he is providing you with the constant mana you are the perfect crowd control and don't need your merc to do hardly anything. Now Ubers may be a different story but I don't plan on my merc really helping there anyway.

brokensvt
29-08-2007, 17:07
The only gear switches needed to make a sucessful Uber smiter out of a well-built hammerdin(and why):

Ravenfrost(CBF)
Grief PB(Speed+Raw Damage)-Alternate "Black(Scourge)" or "Last Wish(PB)" or Astreon's, etc.
Gores(CB)
Guillaumes(CB)--If using LW, an IAS'd Kira's + Highlord's is grand.

kykle
29-08-2007, 18:32
you dont need 110 CB - my uber smiter has 15 (yes only 15) and he kills the ubers in under 30 seconds each

you can use grief instead of lw for a huge damage boost, and kiras instead of guillaumes for stacked res

hammersaway
29-08-2007, 23:35
I hate to argue, but I don't see the value of only 15 crushing blow, . I fully understand 110 is more than you need, but a high crushing blow makes the game so much faster

brokensvt
29-08-2007, 23:39
Agreed that CB is valuable, especially in Trist...but I think that you can get by with minimal due to ~4 attacks per second, etc.

kykle
30-08-2007, 05:54
hammers: get me an orgset and watch a 15 cb pally with no charms at all own ubers - you can even keep the torch:P

hammersaway
30-08-2007, 16:36
ladder or non ladder?

squiggle
31-08-2007, 05:38
Ok guide, Being called "kid" alot got a little annoying.

Jenkinsbball
31-08-2007, 18:56
Sorry, but I can't afford hoto's and enigmas, and hoz's, and even a fking shako for that matter.

At the moment, I'm running the following on my lvl 70 hammerdin and I do decent I suppose:

34% spirit cs
32% spirit guilded shield
peasant crown
uni mage plate
tearhaunces
frosties
tgods
+3 offensive pala ammy
2 10% fcr rings
no charms

I wish I could afford better stuff, but it's almost impossible to find/build wealth after being away for like 3 years.

kykle
01-09-2007, 02:40
non ladder east

The Cow King
04-09-2007, 04:31
The swap gear selection for ubers is totally overkill. Why bother with Grief, CoH and crap like that when you can do just fine with unsocketed Wizzy (yes). I didnt even use duress. All they do is take up stash space and raise the budget for this build up the bazoo (especially since the reset).

Also Wizzy + 35 FCR Spirit > Hoto + HoZ (and again, much... much cheaper).

DustDrake
05-09-2007, 19:34
Guys bottom line - thing that kill Ubers is CB and OW ... it doesn't matter if you have 200 smite or 10000 smite damage ... really
Things that keep you alive is stacked resistance (and salvation is your ultimate tool here) and DR