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w-igor
28-08-2007, 15:53
I've heared a baba is a very good D-runner. It looks like Conc / Frenzy / Zerk barbs are botter for this thing cause they can kill Nih himself without touching minions, but I've heared WW is very good also - is he?
Here's what I'm going to do, please tell me if he will be good for D-Runs and what should I change to make him better:

20 WW
20 BO
20 Mastery
20 FI*
1-5 NR
1 Zerk
1 Command
1 Taunt
1 BC
1 WC
Rest Shout

* - I'm not sure about it. I'll go 20 FI, rest Shout or 1 FI, 20 Shout, rest Iron Skin

2 x eBotD BA (or maybe BotD+Grief or BotD+Beast?)


What do you think?

AnEvilPeanut
28-08-2007, 16:14
Anything can be a good key runner. I use a hammerdin. The only thing that IMO is non-negotiable is Nature's Peace. I tele on top of Nih and just spam hammer killing everything. I have probably 25 D keys right now and I've never died. So as long as you can kill in hell, and you wear NP then you should be fine. But I like my guy because of Enigma and tele.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
29-08-2007, 00:04
You should be fine. I am a pretty fast key-runner, using the far inferior IK set. Nihlathak is a bit of a pain, but I have so much life it usually isn't anything a purple potion or two can't fix during the fight.

I'd be very hesitant about spending 20 points in Find Item, as past the first few points, the bonus is really small. I use your second setup with my barb - 1 in FI and 20 in Shout, rest in Iron Skin, and use echoing weapons on switch to make up for the single point in FI. I just think that while more is always more with FI, at a certain point more isn't all that much more. Past skill level 10 it's only about 1% more per point spent, and past level 15 it's 1% for every two points. So the difference between skill level 10 and skill level 20 is like 7% - not worth it IMO.

Aldeth the Foppish Idiot
29-08-2007, 00:04
You should be fine. I am a pretty fast key-runner, using the far inferior IK set. Nihlathak is a bit of a pain, but I have so much life it usually isn't anything a purple potion or two can't fix during the fight.

I'd be very hesitant about spending 20 points in Find Item, as past the first few points, the bonus is really small. I use your second setup with my barb - 1 in FI and 20 in Shout, rest in Iron Skin, and use echoing weapons on switch to make up for the single point in FI. I just think that while more is always more with FI, at a certain point more isn't all that much more. Past skill level 10 it's only about 1% more per point spent, and past level 15 it's 1% for every two points. So the difference between skill level 10 and skill level 20 is like 7% - not worth it IMO.