pvp hammeradin build

[perpetualpain]

i've played pvm for a few years, and so it's time for something different =D. from the past years, i can tell that a good pvp charac is seriously business, not just slapping any good unique onto your character. so i wanna make good pvp pally, and i don't expect a close to perfect performance. i just wanna see how far i can go with my first REAL pvp character, since my other creations were failures (a fire sorc and a bone necro).

i wanna try a hammerdin, since i see them own

i would be insanely grateful if you can give the stat and skill point allocation and what items i should use. any suggestions on items are great too.

so far, the stuff that i have for a pally (imma strip them from my defensive pally) and i'm wondering if any of them are useful for a hammer pally

tearhaunch (some kinda boots)
rusthandle grand scepter
steelclash kite shield

THANK YOU EVERYONE

yeah, slapping wormskull, ume's lament, wall of the eyeless, and other stuff on my necro doesn't do anything against charger pally

[Fists of War]

I'd use:

+2 pally skills 20 fcr weapon
magefists
+2 fcr priz ammy
fcr rings
+2 priz shield
24 fhr/life armour and belt
fhr/res/life helm
tearhaunch boots

Idk why your fire sorc and bone nec didn't work...I can still kill with my cold sorc and she's got pretty ghetto gear >.<

[WarlockCC]

I'd use:

+2 pally skills 20 fcr weapon

You would not be using that in classic Ladder. :)

[perpetualpain]

I'd use:

+2 pally skills 20 fcr weapon
magefists
+2 fcr priz ammy
fcr rings
+2 priz shield
24 fhr/life armour and belt
fhr/res/life helm
tearhaunch boots

Idk why your fire sorc and bone nec didn't work...I can still kill with my cold sorc and she's got pretty ghetto gear >.<

Im a newb when it comes to terms, so i need some help understanding the following

+2 pally skills 20 fcr weapon

does this mean +2 pally skills weapon that also lets you cast 20% faster?

+2 fcr priz ammy

does this mean +2 pally skills, have a faster cast rate, and is prismatic?

+2 priz shield

does it mean +2 pally skills and is prismatic?

24 fhr/life armour and belt
er..i really don't get that

[goomba]

Im a newb when it comes to terms, so i need some help understanding the following

+2 pally skills 20 fcr weapon

does this mean +2 pally skills weapon that also lets you cast 20% faster?

+2 fcr priz ammy

does this mean +2 pally skills, have a faster cast rate, and is prismatic?

+2 priz shield

does it mean +2 pally skills and is prismatic?

24 fhr/life armour and belt
er..i really don't get that

first: decide on whom you want to PvP vs.

second: most pvp dins are at most 55 base str, many are still pure vita route.

third: throw away your notes about the gear you originally intended to use.

fourth - the type's of gear to "pwn":

armor - 24 (fhr) faster hit recover, with added life, and at least dual resistance - ideally something light - think mage plate, or -30 req other armor as high of defense as you can wear without pumping strength, with a pruby socket

hat: very high defense grim helm, 10 fhr added life, dual resistance or better, with a pruby socket

belt: 24 fhr, str/life resist

boots: 30 faster run/walk (frw) and 10 fhr, +dex optional if you go shard route, but 2, or 3 very high resists

shield: 17/30/20 +2 pally skills prismatic (resist all) grim shield, with stacked fr/cr or cr/lr and a pdia socket

weapon: shopped sceptre, +2 to pally skills, +2 or +3 conc, and +3 blessed hammer - some substitute some of the above for +str, and/or +fcr

ammy: +2 palladin skills, 10% faster cast rate (fcr) and prismatic, with one or more stacked resists, and +str/life/mana

a near vita barb, with a lot of crushing blow, and high AR can tank one or more hammers, and crush you if you attempt to play defensive din, and just sit there waiting for him to run into your hammers. also, if you don't have enough fhr, and he has a high enough leap, he can leap stun you into hit-reaction mode, land next to you, and punk you.

for the actual dueling you will want to mix your hot keys up, to enable you to rapidly change from charge on the left mouse with vigor on the right mouse as your "movement" and then to blessed hammer on the left mouse, and concentration on the right mouse to boost hammer damage.

final thought after typing all of that, you really should read the build guides. a quality hammer din, with good gear set up for raiding/cs-ing should be a formidable foe pvp if played well enough

[yohed]

You couldn't beat a charger din with your bone necro? What happened to your bone wall and bone prison?

[phool]

Hammerdins are imo a lot harder to play successfully in classic pubbies than fire sorcs and bone necros and if you don't know what the gear being mentioned is I doubt you can begin to afford it. Maybe you should try a cold sorc.

[goomba]

Hammerdins are imo a lot harder to play successfully in classic pubbies than fire sorcs and bone necros and if you don't know what the gear being mentioned is I doubt you can begin to afford it. Maybe you should try a cold sorc.

public duels are dominated by farcasters, and fcr hackers, with auto-juv, and auto-tp hacks that simply use duel games as an opportunity to bolster up their pathetically low sense of self esteem, and gold farm to feed their gambling habits.

I do have to admit, that when one attempts to pk/cs that's when the adrenalin will still go up for me at least.

the above, being said, it's sometimes fun to give myself a lvl 30 chant on ray's BvA and crush any necro that tries to wall himself in, and isn't smart enough to IM me.

fire sorcs, usually aren't a problem either, even with high fcr cause they can't spam fireballs in any general direction, instead requiring a name lock, teleport, re-orient, then re-namelock. most of those I found were fought to a draw.

[Fists of War]

That's a bleak picture you paint...most PvP games in west aren't that bad...

I've found that most games have so many barbs in them, with the rest mostly being fire/cold sorcs and bone necs.

Anyway to the OP: Sorry about being a bit confusing with my gear terms, but you seemed to figure them out pretty good anyway. Just go and make a cold sorc, probably frozen orb. Stack resists, get a bit of fcr and you'll be good against average opponents. A hammerdin is a bit hard to play against a lot of duelers, especially if you can't afford the gear mentioned.

[Akukami]

It's a bleak picture because that's the truth. Most of the pubbies I dueled in on East always had some kid with an HDin, FCer, or AAing Necro trying to solo the entire game with a loaded Level 31 BO and infinte hacks - AutoJuv, AutoTP, and a bunch of new ones that I can't even begin to list. But like Goomba said, it's fun to plow through people with my BvA, especially with a high level Chant. After running over the hacker a few times, they almost always called for help from one of their buddies, accused me of hacking, called me out for a "1v1" (read as 7v1) private duel, or partied up with another sub-par player to try and tip the odds in their favor.

- Akukami

[Murrogh]

Fcr: 0, 7, 15, 27, 48, 86.
Fhr: 0, 9, 18, 30, 48, 75
You can hit 75+ fhr with the build that goomba suggested. You would have 85 so you don't need 17 on the shield, it could be 10.

If you can't get to 75 try for 48 which is easy.

For fcr the 48 breakpoint is very important. This meants that you will use magefist, and try to get 30 fcr from your rings ammy and scep, which can have 10 fcr.

The best way to get a good scepter is to go to act 2 and see if drognan is selling one and then run out of town so he sells different items and check again and keep repeating.

If you don't have enough fcr gear or a good scep you could use shard but that isn't usually used on a pally.

[WarlockCC]

Some verbal jousting, naming cheats by name, and pretending to know how or what other people are like...
I took the liberty of just removing the whole thing after the last useful post, I didn't seperate the useful bits from the posts I deleted, so if you have pressing matters to add which do not involve the abovementioned or anything remotely similar, feel free to.