blessed hammer question

[yongming]

first i just play classic for a few days(never play it before),and i start with a hammerdin,when i touch a combat shrine,my hammer damage boosts A LOT.so what's this about?hammer was considered as phisical damage?
2 more questions:
1:what's the best mod i can get from the recipe"3 standard gems+1 socketed divine scepter"?for a hammerdin/shockadin
2:what's the best mod i can get from the recipe"3 flawless gems+1 magic divine scepter?"for a hammerdin/shockadin
TYVM

[Fists of War]

Blessed hammer is half physical and half magical damage, and even PI's are not immune to the physical part. That's why concentration adds half the listed ED to bh, as it affects only the physical part.

Its probably just the lying characters screen thinking the physical part is getting stronger, but Im pretty sure those shrines wouldn't.

And what are those gem recipes you're talking about? For a good hdin weapon, just shop a +2 pally skills one, if it also has +bh it's great.

[Orphan]

Blessed hammer is half physical and half magical damage, and even PI's are not immune to the physical part. That's why concentration adds half the listed ED to bh, as it affects only the physical part.


Blessed Hammer is completely magical. There is no physical component.

To the OP: Are you sure it wasn't actually just a display issue? Blessed Hammer will visually appear to gain a bonus from any extra physical damage %, such as combat shrine, fana, might, etc, but in reality it does not. Concentration only increases the damage (at half effectiveness) because it's specifically designed that way and not because concentration enhances physical damage.

[phool]

morale of the story is to never trust the damage on the character screen. I'm not really up to the more complicated other questions these days, except they set ilvl to 30 since 1.10 or perhaps it was 1.09, so I wouldn't bother.

spectral shard is basically better for a hammerdin than a +2 weapon unless you can get your hands on a really good one, I only use a +2 for prebuffing holy shield. Best level to shop +2 pala weapons is probably low 60s, if you're the right level getting a simple +2 is easy but a +2 with conc or blessed hammer bonuses of fcr a lot harder.

[yongming]

Blessed hammer is half physical and half magical damage, and even PI's are not immune to the physical part. That's why concentration adds half the listed ED to bh, as it affects only the physical part.

Its probably just the lying characters screen thinking the physical part is getting stronger, but Im pretty sure those shrines wouldn't.

And what are those gem recipes you're talking about? For a good hdin weapon, just shop a +2 pally skills one, if it also has +bh it's great.
where did you get that information?can you post a link or something?

yes,my LCS shows the damage boosts a lot,but it seemed i was fooled by LCS again.:embarassed:

3 Standard Gems (normal) and 1 Socketed Weapon (Any Type) = 1 Socketed Magic Weapon (of same type)
This takes a socketed weapon and makes it a magic socketed weapon with a random number of sockets. This allows you to get new magic bonuses on an otherwise non magical weapon. The original weapon properties will be removed (rerolled) when the new weapon is created. ilvl = 30. It gets 1-2 sockets.
3 Flawless Gems + 1 Magic Weapon = Socketed Magic Weapon
This adds sockets to a magic weapon. The original magic weapon properties will be removed (rerolled) when the new weapon is created. If you use this formula with a weapon that is not normally socketed such as a Javelin, this recipe will create a new magical weapon without any sockets. ilvl=30 magic weapon with 1-2 sockets

[yongming]

Blessed Hammer is completely magical. There is no physical component.

To the OP: Are you sure it wasn't actually just a display issue? Blessed Hammer will visually appear to gain a bonus from any extra physical damage %, such as combat shrine, fana, might, etc, but in reality it does not. Concentration only increases the damage (at half effectiveness) because it's specifically designed that way and not because concentration enhances physical damage.
i don't know if i am wrong but i was told that concentration supported BH with full effectiveness in classic

[yongming]

morale of the story is to never trust the damage on the character screen. I'm not really up to the more complicated other questions these days, except they set ilvl to 30 since 1.10 or perhaps it was 1.09, so I wouldn't bother.

spectral shard is basically better for a hammerdin than a +2 weapon unless you can get your hands on a really good one, I only use a +2 for prebuffing holy shield. Best level to shop +2 pala weapons is probably low 60s, if you're the right level getting a simple +2 is easy but a +2 with conc or blessed hammer bonuses of fcr a lot harder.
thanks for the information:smiley:

[goomba]

spectral shard is basically better for a hammerdin than a +2 weapon unless you can get your hands on a really good one, I only use a +2 for prebuffing holy shield. Best level to shop +2 pala weapons is probably low 60s, if you're the right level getting a simple +2 is easy but a +2 with conc or blessed hammer bonuses of fcr a lot harder.

matter of preference. Most dins prefer to not waste stats on dex to use shard, and it's quite easy to hit the 50 fcr breakpt legitimately and gain some very high damage hammers at respectable speeds

of course, those that use fcr hacks don't even bother, and have shard-like hammer cast rates, at an indicated 14k hammer dmg... (using +2 / +2 /+3 sceptres, sojs and +2 ammys)

I myself used to be a lame shard/gskin din back at the end of 1.09/early 1.10

I have since learned the value of using even shopped scepters.

[Fists of War]

i don't know if i am wrong but i was told that concentration supported BH with full effectiveness in classic

The LCS show it as giving full ED to bh, but it still only gives half.

About bh being half magical and half physical damage...I can't be bothered searching for a link, and I don't know if I'd even find proof. I've simply heard plenty of people on the Xpac parts of these forums mentioning it.

[WarlockCC]

i don't know if i am wrong but i was told that concentration supported BH with full effectiveness in classic
Orphan knows best. :)

I don't recall him ever being wrong about Diablo 2. Classic or LoD.

[yongming]

i'm still confused,so i test something in SP.
naked paladin,full synergy to BH,max concentration,max BH,all results are LCS shown.
in expansion:
(no combat boost)
BH damage:1293-1320
with concentration:3516-3590
(with combat boost)
BH damage:STILL 1293-1320
with concentration:3516-3590
in classic:
(no combat boost)
BH damage:1293-1320
with concentration:5753-5874
(with combat boost)
BH damage:3879-3960
with concentration:8339-8514

so 2 things:
BH do more damage with concentration in CLASSIC,is it just a display issue on LCS?
BH do more damage with combat boost in CLASSIC,is it also a display issue on LCS?

[youkickedmydog]

i'm still confused,so i test something in SP.
naked paladin,full synergy to BH,max concentration,max BH,all results are LCS shown.
in expansion:
(no combat boost)
BH damage:1293-1320
with concentration:3516-3590
(with combat boost)
BH damage:STILL 1293-1320
with concentration:3516-3590
in classic:
(no combat boost)
BH damage:1293-1320
with concentration:5753-5874
(with combat boost)
BH damage:3879-3960
with concentration:8339-8514

so 2 things:
BH do more damage with concentration in CLASSIC,is it just a display issue on LCS?
BH do more damage with combat boost in CLASSIC,is it also a display issue on LCS?

It was nerfed in a patch. I can't remember which. I also don't think the nerf extended to classic, but it may be a display issue now.