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[HeroXVII]

I didn't feel like making multiple topics so I decided to wrap up some guides all into one topic. By the way, I remade my ES + Infinity Sorc today. Lv16 base TK and it kicks ***, so thanks for helping me with that guys. I see a lot of people looking for guides or requesting setups. Maybe they should try to look in the Library Sticky, unless it's not there... I plan to have most builds covered up in these guides. And I won't be done with it after this post.

If I miss something, fell free to point it out
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.:Basic Energy Shield Lightning Sorc:.

Stats:
Strength: 156 (With Gear, so don't pump 146 points into STR from the start, count your gear in)
Dexterity: None (Unless you're going for Max Block, but that's pretty hard with a Spirit Monarch)
Vitality: None
Energy: Everything else

Skills
20 Lightning
20 Lightning Mastery
20 Charged Bolt
16 Telekenesis
1 Shiver Armor (1 Ice Bolt, 1 Frozen Armor, 1 Ice Blast)
1 Teleport
1 Warmth
1 Thunderstorm
X Energy Shield (However much it takes to get the 95% cap)
X Nova/Chain Lightning (Rest here)

Gear:
'->' stands for main gear
'-->' stands for alternative/optional gear

Helm:
-> Griffon's Eye [Diadem] Try to get as perfect as possible to -20% Enemy Light Res/+15% Light Skill Damage. Then socket it with a 5/5 Light Facet
--> Harlequin Crest [Shako] Get a higher defense Shako. Socket it. Stick an Um rune if you're lacking resistance or a Ber rune if you want the extra 8% DR for a total of 18% DR on the Shako
--> Circlet [Rare Circlet] If you're looking for a circlet, get one with +2 Light Skills, 20% FCR, 30%FRW and other mods such as Life/Mana/Res

Amulet:
-> Mara's Kaleidoscope [Amulet] Try to get as perfect as possible to the 30 resistance. Never get a perfect unless you know that it is legit. If you're uncertain, skip it and get a near perfect one (27-29)
--> Armageddon Fletch [Amulet] Crafted USEast only dupe/unperm Amulet
--> Amulet [Crafted Amulet] One with +2 Sorc Skills, 15+ FCR, and other mods such as Life/Res/Mana/DTM
--> Amulet [Magic Amulet] A 3 to Light Skill Amulet

Weapon:
-> Eschuta's Temper [Eldritch Orb] Get a perfect 20% Light Skill Damage Eschuta's. Socket it with a 5/5 Light Facet.
--> Heart of the Oak [Ko + Vex + Pul + Thul in 4 Socket Flail] Get one with low reqs and as perfect of resistance as possible.

Body Armor:
-> Chains of Honor [Dol + Um + Ber + Ist in a 4 Socket Armor] Get one in an Archon Plate or a Dusk Shroud. Get a high defense one.
--> Ormus Robe [Dusk Shroud] Get a perfect 15% Light Skill Ormus with +3 Lightning.
--> Skin of the Vipermagi [Serpentskin Armor] Upgrade it so it has a higher defense. The 35% FCR is great along with the resistance. Socket it with an Um for more resistance.

Shield:
-> Spirit [Tal + Thul + Ort + Amn in a 4 Socket Monarch] Only use a Monarch. Try to get a higher FCR Spirit. 35% is the highest.

Gloves:
-> Magefist [Light Gauntlets] Self explanatory
--> Trang-Ouls [Light Gauntlets] Similar to Magefists but has no Mana Regenerate or +1 Fire Skill

Belt:
-> Arachnid Mesh [Spiderweb Sash] Get a high %ED one. 120%ED is max. Don't get one under 112%ED or so
--> Bugged Belt [Don't know unid name] It's a unique belt only on Europe. It's better than Spider so get this if you can.

Rings:
-> Stone of Jordan [Ring] Get legit ones. Don't want these hoes poofin on ya
--> Bul Katho's Wedding Band [Ring] Exchange it for a SOJ. You want the Mana over Life since Mana = Life for an ES Sorc.
--> Ring [Rare Ring] Get a FCR Ring with over 10+ Strength on it. Try to get Resistances on it as well if you can't get a SOJ or BK. These can be more expensive if they're good.

Boots:
-> Sandstorm Trek [Scarabshell Boots] Go for an Ethereal set with +15 Strength. Vitality could matter less. Go for eth since it has Self-Repair
--> Imp Shanks [Don't know unid name] USWest only.
--> Armageddon Fletch [Crafted Boots] USEast only.
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Reserve (I'm AFK at this time) - Not done yet with other guides

[HeroXVII]

Reserve (I'm AFK at this time) - Not done yet with other guides

[HeroXVII]

Reserve (I'm AFK at this time) - Not done yet with other guides.

[Darkoooo]

Imho, you should also look at the poison res on Treks. After all, your sorc doesn't have any points in Vitality.

[HeroXVII]

Oh, I forgot about that. Poison cuts through ES so it's a *****. Thanks for the add. What the hell is the problem with the editing thing? It won't let me edit posts after a certain amount of time. Can a moderator or somebody delete the 2 posts that I reserved?

I didn't finish because I had to go. But the charms for Basic ES Light Sorc would be 9x Light GCs, better if they were +Strength or other mods instead of plain. don't forget Torch and Anni, try to get a 20/XX and 20/XX/10

Anyways, on we go.
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.:Magic Finding Pure Blizzard Sorceress:.

Stats
Strength: Enough for Gear
Dexterity: None (Unless you're going for Max BLock)
Vitality: Rest
Energy: None

Skills:
20 Blizzard
20 Ice Blast
20 Ice Bolt
20 Glacial Spike
1 Frost nova
1 Warmth
1 Telekenesis
1 Teleport
X Cold Mastery (Count your gear in, you only need 17 Cold Mastery)
X Shiver Armor (Rest Here)[/b]

Gear:
'->' stands for main gear
'-->' stands for optional or alternative gear

Helm:
-> Harlequin Crest [Shako] Get a high defense Shako since most Magic Finders lack defense. Socket this with a Perfect Topaz

Amulet:
-> Tal Rasha's Adjudication [Amulet] We use the 3x Tal Item Setup here to get the 65 MF Bonus

Weapon:
-> The Occulus [Swirling Crystal] Socket it with an Ist Rune for 30% more MF
--> The Blade of Ali Baba [Tulwar] Socket it with 2x Ist Rune for 60% more MF

Body Armor:
->Tal Rasha's Guardianship [Lacquered Plate] Socket it with a Perfect Topaz for 24% more MF. Also the 3 Tal Item gets y ou 65% more MF with this

Shield:
-> Monarch [Monarch] A normal Monarch with 4 sockets. Try to get one with enhanced defense as a mod, too. Socket it with 4x Ist for 100% more MF.
--> Spirit [Tal + Thul + Ort + Amn in a 4 Socket Monarch] This might be a nice option too since the build lacks FCR.

Gloves:
-> Chance Guard [Chain Gloves] Get one as close as possible to perfect (40% MF)
--> Rare Gloves [Rare Gloves] Get a set of Rare quality Gloves that have ~30% MF if you can't get Chancies

Belt:
-> Arachnid Mesh [Spiderweb Sash] Try and get higher %ED closer to 120%ED Spider. It doesn't really matter since the FCR is most important. You have enough MF right about now
--> Bugged Belt [Don't know unid name] You can use the bugged belt (Siggard's something) that's Europe only. It's better than a Spider
--> Goldwrap [Heavy Belt] You already have enoguh MF, but if you want more, then get a Goldwrap and upgrade it.

Rings:
-> Nagelring [Ring] Get a pair that's 26-30% MF each
--> Rare Ring [Rare Ring] If you think you're lacking FCR then use a Nagel/FCR Ring combination. Good to have a STR mod on the Ring too

Boots:
-> War Travellers [Battle Boots] Get one as close as possible to 50% MF. Don't go under 45% MF ones unless you have to. All Travs are basically in the same price range.

Charms:
-> Hellfire Torch [Large Charm] Get a 20/XX one. The stats are most important
-> Annihilus [Small Charm] Get a 20/XX/X one. Stats are still most important
-> Gheed's Fortune [Grand Charm] Get one that's over 30% MF. Perfect is 40% MF
-> 6x Cold Skill GCs [Grand Charm] Get 6 GCs that add +1 to Cold Skill. +Life mods would be nice
-> 10x 7%MF SCs [Small Charm] Get 10 Small Charms that add 7% MF. Other mods on it could be nice.
-> *NOTE* With all of this crap filling up your inventory, you have a 3x2 space in a corner for your drops.

[mephiztophelez]

Body Armor:
-> Chains of Honor [Dol + Um + Ber + Ist in a 4 Socket Armor] Get one in an Archon Plate or a Dusk Shroud. Get a high defense one.
--> Ormus Robe [Dusk Shroud] Get a perfect 15% Light Skill Ormus with +3 Lightning.
--> Skin of the Vipermagi [Serpentskin Armor] Upgrade it so it has a higher defense. The 35% FCR is great along with the resistance. Socket it with an Um for more resistance.
minor nit, Viper has only 30% FCR on it.

[McCain123]

I think you should check the Sorceress Library (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=427018)
There are guides for eshield-Lightning sorcs, Blizzard sorcs, mf sorcs, there is not much that is not covered yet.

[HeroXVII]

I think you should check the Sorceress Library (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=427018)
There are guides for eshield-Lightning sorcs, Blizzard sorcs, mf sorcs, there is not much that is not covered yet.

I got one that isn't covered... Just don't have time to post it right now.

[HeroXVII]

Got one. Bump

.:Dual Dream Zealing Enchantress:.
Stats
Strength: Enough for Gear
Dexterity: Max Block
Vitality: Rest
Energy: None

Skills:
20 Warmth
20 Enchant
20 Fire Mastery
20 Lightning Mastery
16 Telekenesis
1 Static Field
1 Shiver Armor (1 Ice Bolt, 1 Ice Blast, 1 Frozen Armor)
1 Fire Bolt
1 Fire Ball
X Energy Shield (Rest Here or wherever)

If this is an all vitality build, why ES? Use ES because zealing costs only 2 mana. It will help you tank damage.
[b]Gear:[/n]
'->' stands for main gear
'-->' stands for optional or alternative gear

Helm:
-> Dream Put this in a Grim Helm. Get one as perfect as possible to the highest defense, resistance, and FHR.

[i]Amulet:
-> Highlord's Wrath [Amulet] Great since it adds 1 Skill, Lightning Resistance, and %DS depending on level.

Weapon:
-> Passion [Dol + Ort + Eld + Lem in a 4 Socket Weapon] As always, try to get as perfect as possible towards Enhanced Damage (210%) and AR Bonus (80%)

Body Armor:
-> Chains of Honor [Dol + Um + Ber + Ist in a 4 Socket Body Armor] Put this in an Archon Plate or something with a lower Strength requirement such as a Scarab Husk or Dusk Shroud.
--> Superior Dusk Shroud [Dusk Shroud] Socket a normal Dusk Shroud with 4x 5/5 Light Facets to boost your Holy Shock.

Shield:
-> Dream [Jah + Io + Pul] Put this in a 3 Socket Shield with the least Dexterity required for Max Block

Gloves:
-> Rare Gloves [Rare Gloves] Use a pair of rare gloves with 20IAS and other mods.
-> Crafted Gloves [Crafted Gloves] Use a pair of crafted gloves with 20IAS, Strength/Dexterity bonus and other mods
--> Dracul's Grasp [Vampirebone Gloves] Life Leech, Life Tap, Strength Bonus, Open Wounds. Get a 15 Strength one

Belt:
-> Nosferatu's Coil [Don't know unid name] Get it since a Sorc's IAS BPs are different and you need the IAS
--> Bugged Belt [Don't know unid name] Europe only. I believe it has IAS on it.

Rings:
-> Raven Frost/Bul Katho's Wedding Band [Ring] Use this combination for the Life Leech on BK and the Cannot be Frozen on Raven
--> Raven Frost/Stone of Jordan [Ring] Cannot be frozen, mana boost.

Boots:
-> Sandstorm Treks [Scarabshell Boots] Get an eth pair with +15 Strength
--> Imp Shanks [Don't know unid name] USWest only
--> Armageddon Slippers [Don't know unid name] USEast only

Switch Weapons:
-> Heart of the Oak [Ko + Vex + Pul + Thul in a 4 Socket Flail] Get it for the FCR.
-> Spirit [Tal + Thul + Ort + Amn in a 4 Socket Monarch] Get it for the FCR. You need an FCR switch to tele around since this build lacks FCR in main gear.

Prebuffing:

->Harlequin Crest [Shako] +1 Skill
->Arachnids Mesh[Spiderweb Sash] +1 Skill
->Spirit [Tal + Thul + Ort Amn in a 4 Socket Monarch] +2 Skill
->Call to Arms [Amn + Ral + Mal + Ohm + Ist in a 5 Socket Weapon] Put this in a normal Flail or Crystal Sword. Get a +6 Battle Orders one
->Memory [Lum + Io + Sol + Eth in a 4 Socket Staff] Put this in a 4 Socket staff that already has +3 Energy Shield to get a +9 ES Memory Staff
->Enigma [Jah + Ith + Ber in a 3 Socket Body Armor] Put it in a Mage Plate or Dusk Shroud. It's a good choice due to the Strength Bonus. Also has +2 skills
->Stone of Jordan [Ring] You're prebuffing, and since SoJs are cheaper than BKs use a SoJ for prebuff.

Charms
-> Hellfire torch [Large Charm] Get one for Sorceress and 20 to all Stats. Resistance could matter less but try to get perfect
-> Annihilus [Small Charm] Get one as perfect as possible towards the Stats, Resistance too.
-> 9x Fire Skill GC [Grand Charm] Get 9 Grand Charms with +1 Fire Skill. Get them with a +Life mod.

[HeroXVII]

Uhh, by the way. I forgot to edit but I just remembered I messed up. For Belt on the BLizzard Magic Finder, use a Tal's Belt not Spider. God, I ****ing hate this edit thing.

[HeroXVII]

My god, what the hell is wrong with this edit thing? Making it look like spam. Anyways, here's another build

.:Infinity Weilding ES Lightning Sorc:.
Stats:
Strength: Enough for Gear
Dexterity: Enough for Gear
Vitality: Base
Energy: Rest

Skills:
20 Lightning
20 Charged Bolt
20 Lightning Mastery
16 Telekenesis
1 Shiver Armor (1 Frozen Armor, 1 Ice Bolt, 1 Ice Blast)
1 Warmth
1 Teleport
1 Thunderstorm
X Energy Shield (As many as you have to for the 95% Cap, remember your 9ES Memory Prebuff)
X Nova/Chain Lightning (1 in one, the rest in the other)

Gear:

'->' stands for main gear
'-->' stands for optional or alternative gear

[i]Prebuffing
-> Harlequin Crest [Shako] +2 Skills
-> Memory [Lum + Io + Sol + Eth + 4 Socket Staff] Get one with Base 3ES to get a 9ES Memory
-> Magic Amulet [Amulet] A magic quality amulet with +3 Light Skills
-> Enigma [Jah + Ith + Ber] Put it in a Breast Plate because it has a low Strength Requirement. It's only prebuff, and it's good for the +2 Skills along with high Strength Boost
-> Arachnid Mesh [Spiderweb Sash] +1 Skills, nothing else on it matters. Also your main gear
-> Stone of Jordan [Ring] These are also your main gear. +1 Skills each
-> Call to Arms [Amn + Ral + Mal + Ohm + Ist + 4 Socket Weapon] Put it in a 4 Socket Flail or Crystal Sword and aim for a +6 Battle Orders one.
-> Spirit [Tal + Thul + Ort + Amn in a 4 Socket Weapon/Shield] Put it in a Monarch for prebuff. +2 Skills

Helm
->Griffon's Eye [Diamem] Get as perfect as possible, -20% Enemy Light Res, +15% Light Skill Damage. Socket it with a 5/5 Light Facet.
-->Harlequin Crest [Shako] Get a higher defense Shako and socket it with a 5/5 Light Facet
--> Rare Circlet [Circlet] Get a rare quality Circlet with 2 Sorc skills, 20% FCR, 30% FRW, and Life/Mana/Res mods

Amulet:
-> Mara's Kaleidoscope [Amulet] Get one with a higher resistance (30% all res is max)
--> Armageddon Fletch [Amulet] Crafted amulet that's only available to USEast
--> Magic Amulet [Amulet] Use your prebuff +3 Light Skills magic amulet if you can't get either of the above

Weapon:
-> Infinity [Ber + Mal + Ber + Ist in a 4 Socket Weapon] Put it in a Scythe, Partizan, or any lower Strength requirement weapon. Get a high Conviction and a high -% Enemy Light Resistance (-55% is max, -45% is low)

Switch Weapons
-> Eschuta's Temper [Eldritch Orb] Get a Perfect Light (+20% Light Skill Damage) Eschuta's and socket it with a 5/5 Light Facet. It's back up, and good for the FCR.
--> Heart of the Oak [Ko + Vex + Pul + Thul in a 4 Socket Flail] Put it in a 4 Socket normal Flail. Just need it for the FCR, teleporting around.
-> Spirit [Tal + Thul + Ort + Amn in a 4 Socket Weapon/Shield] Put it in a Monarch and get a high 35% FCR roll.

Body Armor:
-> Ormus Robe [Dusk Shroud] A perfect 15% Light Skill Damage Ormus robe with +3 Lightning. Socket it with a 5/5 Light Facet
--> Chains of Honor [Dol + Um + Ber + Ist in a 4 Socket Body Armor] Put this in a high base defense Archon Plate.

Gloves:
-> Magefist [Light Gauntlets] Self-explanatory. Gives you needed FCR and +1 Fire Skill alnog with Mana Regeneration

Belt:
-> Arachnid Mesh [Spider Belt] Get one with a high %ED roll, 120%ED is max.
--> Bugged Belt [Don't know unid name] Europe only belt. Better than Spider if you can get

Rings:
-> Stone of Jordan [Ring] No other choice. Basically increases your life by 40% since your mana = life. Also +1 skills on each is great.

Boots:
-> Sandstorm Trek [Scarabshell Boots] Get one thats ethereal, +15 Strength, and a good Poison resistance. Eth since it has Self-Repair
--> Imp Shanks [Don't know Unid name] USWest only.
--> Armageddon Slippers [Don't know Unid name] USEast only.

Charms
-> Hellfire torch [Large Charm] Get one for Sorceress and 20 to all Stats. Resistance could matter less but try to get perfect
-> Annihilus [Small Charm] Get one as perfect as possible towards the Stats, Resistance too.
-> 9x Light Skill GC [Grand Charm] Get 9 Grand Charms with +1 Light Skill. Get them with a +Life or +Strength mod. Life is good since Poison cuts through your ES.

[mephiztophelez]

i would strongly advise you to max telekinesis on any es sorc.

saving four points looks nice on paper for the cool round numbers, but the extra points add a lot to survivability.

[HeroXVII]

Any other comments? 181 Views and barely any comments.

[brokensvt]

[Omniscent voice]These guides have already been written.[/Omniscent voice]

Not to mention, they don't mention Breakpoints. You see, guides are typically used by beginners/novices who are learning a class or new to the game and its principles. Perhaps this is why you have no feedback?

[HeroXVII]

Don't need breakpoints if you have it out in front of you. And no, they have not. Infinity and Dual Dream are not written. So read the whole thing before posting.

Experienced players can also use them if they're in search of a new build.

Hell, don't you people say to newbies and act as if you were a Moderator or somebody important and tell them to read stickies? Then read stickies! 'Breakpoints and Formulas' There you go.

[The Cow King]

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=471447
http://strategy.diabloii.net/news.php?id=563

+ at least 5 blizzard guides :rolleyes:

[HeroXVII]

:smiley:
Lol

[rpkelly]

Another comment - usually guides will tell why you use the build, how you handle certain areas, etc. All this lists is eq, skills, and I guess stats.

[brokensvt]

Don't need breakpoints if you have it out in front of you. And no, they have not. Infinity and Dual Dream are not written. So read the whole thing before posting.

Experienced players can also use them if they're in search of a new build.

Hell, don't you people say to newbies and act as if you were a Moderator or somebody important and tell them to read stickies? Then read stickies! 'Breakpoints and Formulas' There you go.

1)The breakpoints aren't in front of us. You list gear haphazardly, which doesn't paint a "complete picture." Additionally, providing the gear to get to a breakpoint without pointing out the BP, or why you should use one, is silly.

2)Use the search function "newbie." The guides are there. There, I said it for you. Happy?

3)I did read the "whole" thing, despite its utter lack of wholeness.

TYVM, Buh-bye now.

[HeroXVII]

Another ignorant little kid trying to act like he's important... Oh well.

[brokensvt]

Feel better yet? I've simply pointed out that aforementioned "guides" are already[better] written. If calling people names redeems your ignorance, consider yourself redeemed.

At any rate, taking jabs at a person anonymously by calling names and creating imaginary flaws in their behavior is unbecoming. Some of us lead successful lives and use these wonderful forums and the evil addiction we call Diablo2 as a release at the end of the day. Consider that before posting insults. I'll show my three children your post and explain that it's the way NOT to behave in public.

Regards,

Greg(Now you can call me by the proper name)

[HeroXVII]

Still, same noob trying to be important.

[brokensvt]

One could say the same of your reposted guides. Most of the other members' feedback has mimicked mine if you hadn't noticed. I'm done with your thread, enjoy.

I AM somebody important, but that doesn't require me to be important to YOU.

[HeroXVII]

Keep bird-dogging this thread like it's your life. Keep up your spam. I can't even see what you typed. Nice, ignore is very nice. Keep posting as if you were somebody important yet all you do is hound over the thread LOL.

[McCain123]

Calm down guys, no need for flaming here.

HeroXVII, the reason why people didn´t give you credit for your work is that they can´t spot something in your threads, that makes them different from the ones in the sorc library. Perhaps you had something new on your mind, but if you just list gear and stats, people ( me included ) won´t see it. A good guide usually lists various types of gear and explains, what goals need to be reached with it ( 105% fcr / 60% fhr / something like this ). You can aswell state your dream gear and prove peaople that all your goals are covered with it, so that lazy people don´t have to do calculations theirselves. No offense, but have you actually taken a look in the sorc library? You don´t even have to come up with something completely new, just combining things new, will do the trick.

[HeroXVII]

Calm down guys, no need for flaming here.

HeroXVII, the reason why people didn´t give you credit for your work is that they can´t spot something in your threads, that makes them different from the ones in the sorc library. Perhaps you had something new on your mind, but if you just list gear and stats, people ( me included ) won´t see it. A good guide usually lists various types of gear and explains, what goals need to be reached with it ( 105% fcr / 60% fhr / something like this ). You can aswell state your dream gear and prove peaople that all your goals are covered with it, so that lazy people don´t have to do calculations theirselves. No offense, but have you actually taken a look in the sorc library? You don´t even have to come up with something completely new, just combining things new, will do the trick.

Thanks for the help, I'll fix that next time. Glad you answered with some English.

[CamaroIroc]

dude, that's basically what Broken told you like a page and a half ago, your ego just got in the way of your reading comprehension

[HeroXVII]

dude, that's basically what Broken told you like a page and a half ago, your ego just got in the way of your reading comprehension

And yet, another kid trying to use "high level" vocabulary to act important. If you think to yourself that you can do that, then before doing it again, learn to type. Thanks for the bump and spam but I don't need it now; currently thinking up another build.

[NerdyTerdy]

What high level vocabulary did he use? He's not trying to act important, he's trying to show you that you're acting like an *** because of your ego.

[CamaroIroc]

lol.. if the phrases "reading comprehension" and "your ego" are "high level vocabulary" to you, perhaps you should get off the computer and read a book or two.

[HeroXVII]

lol.. if the phrases "reading comprehension" and "your ego" are "high level vocabulary" to you, perhaps you should get off the computer and read a book or two.

If you think that it was, to yourself, then I suggest you to get out and stop being a hypocritical little kid. Stop trying to use what you think to yourself is "high-level" vocabulary and learn to type. Don't act like somebody important you little random. Thanks for the free bump.

[NerdyTerdy]

There are so many things wrong with your post.

For one thing, he's not being hypocritical, you keep acting like people are trying to act smart or something when they use simple words. Next, do you always call people who point out your mistakes "little kids"? Lastly, he typed fine, and there's nothing in his post that indicates he's trying to act important.

I would suggest you stop being abusive before you get banned, if you're not going to be already.

[Ankeli]

Trolls :laugh:

[ioupainmax]

Firstly please don't abuse people who have so far given reasonable and constructive criticism, if you are unable to take any suggestions then I see no reason for you to ask for comments. With that out of the way, onto some comments:

In your dual dream set up you mentioned to use gloves with 20% IAS and 'other mods', however you have neglected to mention what these other mods might be. For experienced players this may not be a huge issue but for newbies it can be too little information. You have also mentioned the use of bugged items/dupes which many people (myself included) frown upon in this forum. Furthermore, you have taken the time to write these guides and include items such as nosferatu's coil, yet you have not taken the 5 seconds it would have taken to find out from the Arreat Summit that the item type is 'Vampirefang Belt'.

In terms of layout, the items section looks a bit busy, perhaps you could use colour and keep the same system you used for skills with a bold heading followed by skills, rather than just the italic heading. The arrows for alternative items are not as clear. Perhaps you could have something like:

IDEAL: Harlequin Crest

ALTERNATIVE: Rare Circlet - 20% FCR, mana etc.

I must also agree with the comments that have been previously made in that, unfortunately, your guide is not up to the standard of the guides that are in the Sorceress Library.

[HeroXVII]

There are so many things wrong with your post.

For one thing, he's not being hypocritical, you keep acting like people are trying to act smart or something when they use simple words. Next, do you always call people who point out your mistakes "little kids"? Lastly, he typed fine, and there's nothing in his post that indicates he's trying to act important.

I would suggest you stop being abusive before you get banned, if you're not going to be already.

Random. Just another newbie... Did I not ask people to stop posting here? Thanks for the spam, makes me laugh. So many peolpe asking to be heard.. <Sarcasm>Like they actually will be</Sarcasm>. You're not going to just by bird-dogging this threat and re-stating everything just to get free posts and <Sarcasm>attention</Sarcasm>.

God, so many annoying people on these "forums", including little kids with no life bird-dogging this thread and having it on their mind 24/7.

[melianor]

Hi HeroXVII,

Nice idea to make a compilation of fast access short guides. Though i do miss out some important points that others have told:

1. When stating gear combinations, please also say why, to make it comprehensive, so that people know why these combinations are needed. Like, FHR, FCR and so forth are reached and these %, so that people who know about such things can get the picture.

2. A little more detail on the skill distribution might hurt neither. People who start out, will not be fed with these mini guides and people who know more, enjoy a little reading, at least i do.

3. Beiing able to handle criticism in an aimable manner would help this thread more than calling everybody "noob" who has something to say. Most criticism i se here is trying to be constructive and not destructive. Nevertheless you destruct it rather handily.

I would like to see a repost of these miniguides with more detail and with link to the actual full guides that are available. THAT would make alot more sense. Some people want it short and sweet, and those who want more can go to the full guides and enjoy some more detail. How does that sound?

regards, meli

P.S.: You can only edit a post within 1 hour. So best prepare all your mini guides and post them all at once. With some more basics covered and links to the detailed guides and some more explanations to humour the readers would get this mini guides thread going full force :)

Anyone feeding flames will receive flames, that counts for all those with misplaced words in thi thread.

[CamaroIroc]

Man, I could go on about you, here, pal, but I dont want to 1) waste my time and 2) upset the mods. Suffice it to say that, were I to employ a vocabulary that was advanced past your pre-pubescent level of comprehension, it would not be too strenuous of a task to do so. However, I chose to give you the benefit of the doubt for one, maybe two posts. That benefit is now spent, and you have been inducted into my first ever "Will not trade list" based soley on your actions and conduct in this thread.

However.. your guide IS very well-written and clear, to an experienced reader. With just a little tweaking, it could be a very concise and informative asset to those seeking assistance. I reccommend you take the advice of those who have offered it here in this thread, and revise your guide, discover a unique build or a new twist on things, and repost with more organization and less tension. Good luck!

[Jaquiezz]

Every one troll this thread.

If every one in here are newbs and rando's then why even bother posting? Why even waste your time here? Aren't you better off at a real pro site like JSP where every one already knows everything, and are the best of the best?

Do you know how big of an idiot you sound when you go around calling every one a newb and a random, when its obvious you don't know the first thing about telekinesis, but pretend like you do? Its hilarious how ironic that is, because your no one yourself. Your just a little random pub who doesn't know the first thing about making a real guide.

Don't go reading others guides, copy them badly, and call them your own. It makes the original authors look bad.

Go ahead and call me a newb, and rando, a pub. I really don't care, because coming from you, its f***ing laughable.

[The Cow King]

This thread is certainly sticky material, pretty please?

[HeroXVII]

Hi HeroXVII,

Nice idea to make a compilation of fast access short guides. Though i do miss out some important points that others have told:

1. When stating gear combinations, please also say why, to make it comprehensive, so that people know why these combinations are needed. Like, FHR, FCR and so forth are reached and these %, so that people who know about such things can get the picture.

2. A little more detail on the skill distribution might hurt neither. People who start out, will not be fed with these mini guides and people who know more, enjoy a little reading, at least i do.

3. Beiing able to handle criticism in an aimable manner would help this thread more than calling everybody "noob" who has something to say. Most criticism i se here is trying to be constructive and not destructive. Nevertheless you destruct it rather handily.

I would like to see a repost of these miniguides with more detail and with link to the actual full guides that are available. THAT would make alot more sense. Some people want it short and sweet, and those who want more can go to the full guides and enjoy some more detail. How does that sound?

regards, meli

P.S.: You can only edit a post within 1 hour. So best prepare all your mini guides and post them all at once. With some more basics covered and links to the detailed guides and some more explanations to humour the readers would get this mini guides thread going full force :)

Anyone feeding flames will receive flames, that counts for all those with misplaced words in this thread.

Will do.

@#2 -> Do people know how to read? They're re-stating the same thing.

@Jaquiezz -> If calling me an idiot counts towards and insult for y ou, then go use a Thesaurus or something. Actually, these are my own guides. If i'm going to make a small package, of course they're going to be mini-guides and not very detailed. You're only jealous that you can't make your own. Have you made a guide? No. Go back to the lab.

[CamaroIroc]

So someone calling you an idiot isnt an insult but you calling people "kids" and "noobs" are? :P

[HeroXVII]

So someone calling you an idiot isnt an insult but you calling people "kids" and "noobs" are? :P

That's not an insult. I just need a noun :smiley:

[CamaroIroc]

that makes absolutly no sense. calling someone a "kid" or a "noob" or a "nub" in the way you did is clearly an attempt at an insult

[HeroXVII]

that makes absolutly no sense. calling someone a "kid" or a "noob" or a "nub" in the way you did is clearly an attempt at an insult

The way you try to use your crap vocabulary is clearly an attempted act of importance. Learn to type. Thanks for the spam, again, makes me laugh, go back to Runescape or Maplestory.

[Brave_turtle]

The way you try to use your crap vocabulary is clearly an attempted act of importance. Learn to type. Thanks for the spam, again, makes me laugh, go back to Runescape or Maplestory.

I like your keyboard warrior attitude, you fail to make an average guide then rage at people giving constructive advices.

I mean, who the hell will take you seriously when you tell people to use ES in your guide but don't even know what's the benefit of Telek? That's like basic knowledge...

Not saying it's bad to be uninformed, it's just worst when you try to turn your ignorance into smartass comments. You just made yourself look very bad and attempting to insult other members, it just put yourself in a deeper hole.

/fail

[Zalcitabine]

I like your keyboard warrior attitude, you fail to make an average guide then rage at people giving constructive advices.

I mean, who the hell will take you seriously when you tell people to use ES in your guide but don't even know what's the benefit of Telek? That's like basic knowledge...

Not saying it's bad to be uninformed, it's just worst when you try to turn your ignorance into smartass comments. You just made yourself look very bad and attempting to insult other members, it just put yourself in a deeper hole.

/fail

Vouch.

Writing a guide is cool but you have to face criticism...if you can't take that like a man then don't write one.

There are many, many peeps on this forum that have 10x better knowledge of this game than you have...If i were you i would be just a bit more humble and open my ears.

[melianor]

I think i made myself perfectly clear to EVERYONE in my post. Stop the flaming now. The conversation is not handled well by anyone of you in this thread.

HeroXVII: when you have enough material and some more details, your miniguide summary thread is very welcome. Be aware though that there will certainly be questions to enhance it further. Please try dealing with criticism friendly, or it will go down the wrong way.

To the rest: Don't feed the flames, the idea for this thread is nice. It needs some enhancement certainly.

This thread though is littered with flames and no use anymore. If you have a problem with a poster, then hit the report button and let the moderators deal with it.

This thread is closed. Waiting for a concise useful good repost with all the gory features.