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xelnanga
28-07-2007, 21:23
So I was wondering if I should get a stormshield or something else, since stormshield has so much str requirement. I might just socket it with a 40/15 (God, if I can find/trade for one!) or just a hel rune.
Are there other good shields for javazons?
P.S. Why is Ss so good btw?
AgentMarth
28-07-2007, 23:49
I can only think of a few shields a Javazon would use for end game, of course there are other though.
Stormshield - Attainable max block, 35% DR, Res.
Spirit - Well, its spirit, nice mods, but can't max block.
20/20 Monarch - More for PvP, huge damage. A 20/20 JMoD is, well, just hawt.
Phoenix - Redemption, huge ED%, and +max Res, and other mods.
Its a personal preference, the 156 str really isn't that hard to attain, but some people like block while others don't care for it. I play HCL so my choice above all is SS for max block and nice DR. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with a Rhyme atm, but when I get one SS will be my choice. However, back in SC, I use to use Phoenix so I didn't have to worry about mana since my Merc would be packing an Infinity and not Insight. Max block also ain't needed in SC.
It's whatever you want to do, but if you go SS, I'd consider a Eld in the shield, a high chance to block (7%) means less Dex and more Vita. Everyone loves more life.
Sure, there are plenty of good options:
3x faceted Head Hunter's Glory (106 str)
2x faceted/socketed Mosers
Sanctuary/Rhyme Grim/Troll shield
Splendor Grim/Troll
Eth + Lum
+1 To All Skills
+10% Faster Cast Rate
+20% Faster Block Rate
+60-100% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+10 To Energy
Regenerate Mana 15%
50% Extra Gold From Monsters
20% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+3 To Light Radius
Eld Whistans for Max Block for Super low dex, etc.
sneakytails
29-07-2007, 09:13
Most of the sheilds peeps have been mentioning here are very exspensive and hard to find, unless your incredibly rich.
Mosers Blessed Circle has been very good to me. I found it in ACT 3 NM got me all the way through the rest of the game. I even elited it with found runes from my hellforge run. This really brought it into its own. Plus it has two sockets. Two P-diamonds till you find better resistance gear works wonders. By then you should be finding better jewels and runes so those are definately options too.
For the ease in finding one my vote is with mosers. Plus the sockets make it flexible.
If you do have the stuff to trade for any of the other sheilds then those are definately worth a look.
sneakytails
AnimeCraze
29-07-2007, 09:16
Most? The only shield that I find expensive on the list are 20/20 and phoenix. I guess the facets in the shield mentioned by Lyrs can be expensive, but one can always socket something else like pdiamonds, no?
You know - you equip stormshield and hmmmm........... no death, no dangeous situations, no death, no worries...... did i mention no death.
I like using Spirit on my PVM Vita JavaZon. The mods are nice.
I can run hell level no problems at all.
For PVP either a Jmod or a SS.
S.
GreatZeal
30-07-2007, 02:46
I'd say use SS for pvm and if your pvp you should switch on and of from a 20/20 and SS.
A viable option to a 4 facet jmod M is a 4x15ias/15res instead.
Otherwise, the one giving you the most bang for the buck is probably spirit.
Just for the sake of agrument.*
Gerke's Sanctuary
Pavise
Defense: 221-268 (varies)(Base Defense: 68-78)
Required Level: 44
Required Strength: 133
Chance to Block: Pal: 84%, Ama/Asn/Bar: 79%, Dru/Nec/Sor: 74%
Durability: 172
+180-240% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+30% Increased Chance of Blocking
All Resistances +20-30 (varies)
Replenish Life +15
Damage Reduced By 11-16 (varies)
Magic Damage Reduced By 14-18 (varies)
vs.
Stormshield
Monarch
Defense: (136-504) - (151-519) (varies)(Base Defense: 133-148)
Required Level: 73
Required Strength: 156
Chance to Block: Pal: 77%, Ama/Asn/Bar: 72%, Dru/Nec/Sor: 67%
+ (3.75 Per Character Level) 3-371 Defense (Based On Character Level)
+25% Increased Chance Of Blocking
35% Faster Block Rate
Damage Reduced By 35%
Cold Resist +60%
Lightning Resist +25%
+30 To Strength
Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 10
Indestructible
Defense, SS. But unless you are a jabber/CSer is this kind of Def really nessesary?
level, Gerkes. Kind of a moot point though.
Strength req, Gerkes
Chance to block, Gerkes
Fast block rate, SS. When using javs,SS has 3frame, Gerkes 5frame, not that much dif.
Damage reduction, push. This is hard to tell, 35% vs.11-16 hard points.
MDR, Gerkes
Resistance,Gerkes
Gerkes,Replenish Life +15. moot
SS,+30 To Strength. SS, but still pretty moot.
SS,Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 10. moot
SS,Indestructible. moot
Overall I'd say the SS has some advantages over Gerkes or any of the other shields already mentioned. It also has several weakness's that people tend to ignore. It certainly isn't the be-all/ end-all shield that some people claim it is. In some builds, like hybrids, the SS is the wrong shield to use.
*disclaimer, yogirat is a charter member of the 'I hate Storm Shields' club
I am using a sanctuary for my javazone and i love it. With all the items i have over 300 vita, over 220 dex and over 210 str (can`t remember the exact amount as i am not on diablo right now). So max block is not a problem for me and i love the resistance, because i am running hell WSK and i need it. Only thing that suck is when i switch to a bow, thats why i carry a Kira's guardian helm with me.
Right now i am trying to get some 15 all resist grand charms and then i will give SS a try.
HeroXVII
31-07-2007, 13:26
Ber'd StormShield.
WrongdayJ
31-07-2007, 19:47
Well, I don't know about it being the all-around 'best shield', but I can say that I really (really) like the Tiamats Rebuke shield.
Pretty much makes nothing immune to you.
I kinda like that offensive aspect in a shield.
You know - you equip stormshield and hmmmm........... no death, no dangeous situations, no death, no worries...... did i mention no death.
Yeah, you just hit the mark!
look at this one:
Rhyme
Superior Grim Shield
'ShaelEth'
Defense: 163
Chance to Block: 60%
Durability: 77 of 78
Required Strength: 58
Required Level: 29
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 54
Fingerprint: 0x9592f3e8
+8% Enhanced Defense
+20% Increased Chance of Blocking
Regenerate Mana 15%
All Resistances +25
Increase Maximum Durability 11%
50% Extra Gold from Monsters
25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
40% Faster Block Rate
Cannot Be Frozen
Socketed (2: 2 used)
CoyoteKid
30-08-2007, 23:09
If running pvm, Spirit is the best choice!!!!!
machnacki
31-08-2007, 04:50
Um'd Stormshield
superdave
31-08-2007, 05:29
i hope someone mentioned whitstan's guard...i love that little round shield.
Ric Magnum
31-08-2007, 11:18
I went with Moser's just because it is cheap, the mods and block percentage are decent and the 2os is great. I have had it since early NM and it has helped me out immensely. Stuck 2 pdiamonds in there and I was set. I don't really see the need for a SS on my java at this point. But to each his own.
KremBanan
31-08-2007, 13:28
Best shield for javazon?
This so depends on:
-Stinkin Rich, Wealthy, Rich, Ok finances, Not quite there budget-wise, Poor or Beginner
-PvM or PvP
-Softcore or Hardcore
-Legit or use duped items/runes
Broncobiv2
01-09-2007, 08:02
This so depends on:
-Legit or use duped items/runes
I really don't think anything should depend on this one. We should already know the answer...
SS for PVP and pheonix monarch for PVM
Phoenix : VexVexLoJah is way too expensive for what it gives... you can fully stuff 4 characters with what's in this shield.
KremBanan
01-09-2007, 17:15
I really don't think anything should depend on this one. We should already know the answer...
We should, but people do use Pheonix', Faiths, CoHs etc etc.. So what type of items reccomended does include whether you want to use duped items or not...
Phoenix : VexVexLoJah is way too expensive for what it gives... you can fully stuff 4 characters with what's in this shield.
personally i spend a lot more than 1 hr per char, so i dont agree with you there. phoenix adds damage, life, and means you will never run out of mana or life, even without leech. doesn't get much better than this
w a t s o n
11-09-2007, 22:36
Hey, i have a question about mosers, when you up it, does the chance to block go up? If you look at the base shields, the elite version has a better chance than the norm version, i was just wondering if this carries over. If it does, im really considering using a 2x facet upped mosers with max block over spirit, even though im sc pvm. I was also considering a 3x facet headhunters, with no max block. Anyone tried all these and care to comment on which they prefer?
crawlingdeadman
12-09-2007, 01:38
i bet if you did the math for the 8% more chance to block you get from upping moser that it'd be outweighed by the 47 more str you'd need... unless you already have 100 str.
i contemplated head hunters but wound up getting an already faceted tower shield of deflecting.
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