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Noite Escura
16-07-2007, 17:50
Is it venom damage added just in case you hit the Javelin, or does it increase the poison trail damage aswell?

PhatTrumpet
16-07-2007, 20:35
Only a successful hit with the javalin itself will carry the Venom damage. SSoG went into quite a bit of detail about this some time ago. I believe it was a thread in the Paladin Forum that started out as a discussion of how much damage a Charger could do, then somehow digressed into a discussion of what character build could one-hit K.O. Hell Baal.

nickedoff
16-07-2007, 20:50
I thought you might want to read this if you haven't already:
http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=4961421&postcount=11

JME
16-07-2007, 23:00
Mental note: *Must build poison javelin amazon*:grin: That truly was an awesome post.

WrongdayJ
16-07-2007, 23:41
It was because of that post that I actually did make one.

She rocks like no other.

I highly recommend Poizon's to anyone looking for a killer build that takes almost NO fancy gear (although fancy gear does help :azn: )

Veilside
17-07-2007, 15:41
It was because of that post that I actually did make one.

She rocks like no other.

I highly recommend Poizon's to anyone looking for a killer build that takes almost NO fancy gear (although fancy gear does help :azn: )

I also made one last ladder, absolutely fantastic character, I'll remake one to be a jab/poison hybrid later on this season.

LozHinge the Unhinged
17-07-2007, 16:04
@SSoG's post -

(gah)

Sorry for the spam , but ... just ... y'know ...

(gah)

SSoG
18-07-2007, 11:51
Mental note: *Must build poison javelin amazon*:grin: That truly was an awesome post.

To be honest, that post was mostly theoretical, and it isn't nearly as cool as it sounds. For instance, while you could one-hit-kill Baal, the time it takes to set up this "1-hit-kill" is so long that you could easily kill him several times over with a more common skill (such as Charged Strike). Also, Poison Javelin has a short timer and no AR boost, so actually landing a successful hit with it is a difficult proposition. While a neat build in theory, it's pretty horrible in practice.

PLAGUE Javelin, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter. Plague deals far more damage per second than Poison + Venom, and is a pretty rad little skill. I'd highly recommend it. Just don't bother with that silly Venom bug, since it's really more effort than it's worth.

Summerfun
18-07-2007, 22:04
I made i really interesting PvP poisonZone.
I maxed the Psn skills and loaded up on frw. (200%frw)
And allso used a Dream helm.

Its by far not the best build. But its great fun!

Kretschmer
19-07-2007, 02:06
Are plague zons useful without Trang's gloves, bramble, etc? I've done an untwinked venomancer, and the damage was painful. It seems as if a plague java would do even slower damage, even if the total amount per cast was higher.

SSoG
19-07-2007, 02:14
Are plague zons useful without Trang's gloves, bramble, etc? I've done an untwinked venomancer, and the damage was painful. It seems as if a plague java would do even slower damage, even if the total amount per cast was higher.

Plague Javelin actually deals the highest damage per second of any poison skill in the game (comparable to Poison Nova, but with a much longer duration). The key is loading up on +Skills, which are EXTREMELY important for any poison build. With a +3 Javskills Amazon-specific Javelin, a set of +3 Javskills gloves, and +4-5 skills from your circlet and amulet, you should be set.

WrongdayJ
20-07-2007, 19:52
It is not uncommon at all to see Plague Javelin numbers in the 20K damage range over 16 sec. with a modest amount of +skills (say 7-9).

. . .the best part is that the skill is can be used to great effect against a boss or against a crowd.