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BojacksFistlol
10-07-2007, 22:07
I just made a Paladin, but what's the best?
I got Sacrifice 1 time, might and blessed aim too.
I heard a Zealadin is the best or something?
And what stats must i do?
3 vit and 2 str?
Iam doing the auras that give u attack rating and stuff, so do I need dex too? (mayby for armors or something?)
AgentMarth
10-07-2007, 22:34
A Hammerdin, however cheesy it may be, is the best.
Max -
Blessed Hammer
Concentration
Blessed Aim
Vigor
Get all the one point wonders, and rest in Holy Shield.
Str - Enough for gear
Dex - Enough for max block with Holy Shield
Vita - Rest
Energy - None
Check out the Paladin section for more info.
BojacksFistlol
10-07-2007, 22:37
mmm what's the max block chance with holy shield?
and why not max Fanaticism?
Mursilis
10-07-2007, 22:39
Fanaticism doesn't add to the Blessed Hammer damage, Concentration does.
If I recall correctly max block chance is 75%, at least according to the character screen (and we all know how accurate that is).
mmm what's the max block chance with holy shield?
and why not max Fanaticism?
Fanaticism doesn't work with hammers, simply put.
There are all sorts of builds that you can make. Frost zealots, tesladins, auradins, zealers/smiters (these use fanat), FOH, etc. Make what you like. Look at the stickied build guides in the paladin forums here.
BojacksFistlol
10-07-2007, 23:33
Fanaticism doesn't work with hammers, simply put.
There are all sorts of builds that you can make. Frost zealots, tesladins, auradins, zealers/smiters (these use fanat), FOH, etc. Make what you like. Look at the stickied build guides in the paladin forums here.
As my thread name, which 1 is the strongest, so according to AgentMarth a Hammerdin is the strongest (best)
As my thread name, which 1 is the strongest, so according to AgentMarth a Hammerdin is the strongest (best)
As my post may have failed to point out, every build has it's strength and weaknesses and you were rather vague to point out strongest at what task.
Smiters generally make better PvPers and uber killers, while hammerdins do better in general PvM. However, Auradins can kill without even touching anything if so desired. Again, every build has strengths and weaknesses and many builds which are the "best" can also be the most boring, which is why I said "make what you like."
Best is extremely subjective. If I had to pick a paladin that I thought was the all-around best, I would have to say the hammerdin. On a side-note, I'd also say that a hammerdin is probably the least favorite pally I've ever made.
Mursilis
11-07-2007, 00:19
I'd also say that a hammerdin is probably the least favorite pally I've ever made.
To which I completely agree. However I too was assuming you meant best as is fastest killer, in which Hammerdin comes out on top, unfortunately.
Nightwright
11-07-2007, 14:30
I'm playing frost zealot this ladder and I really like it. Normal and nightmare were quite easy (I don't get rushed, I do all quests myself), hell was a bit difficult until I got a good weapon. With the right equip he'll be my uber runner (until I make my favorite fury druid :grin: )
Frosty_The_Snowman
11-07-2007, 15:21
A Hammerdin, however cheesy it may be, is the best.I'd like to see your "best" Paladin trying to solo the über-brothers :grin:...
BojacksFistlol
11-07-2007, 15:32
dude hammerdin sucks -_- those hammers don't even hit them, they'll fly besides them and stuff.
btw what kind of paladin is this with the flame weapon?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=miNGr48D0nA
is that a Zealot?
Paladine
11-07-2007, 15:38
That is a smiter/zealer build from the 15 seconds I watched of it. Most likely maxed smite with 1 point into zeal. Don't post saying hammerdin sucks because hammers don't hit if you haven't played a hammer long and well enough to hit monsters with them. It is very easy to be accurate with blessed hammers with a little practice.
Overall best pally for the game, hammerdin.
Best for ubers, smiter/zealer
Most boring, Auradin (however fun initially, get tired of never seeing monsters to kill)
Best PvP, Smiter/Zealer/Foh/Frost Zealot
That is just my opinion on my favorite class
Frosty_The_Snowman
11-07-2007, 20:50
A Hammerdin, however cheesy it may be, is the best.
I'd like to see your "best" Paladin trying to solo the über-brothers :grin:...
dude hammerdin sucks -_- those hammers don't even hit them, they'll fly besides them and stuff.That's exactly my point. Meaning that there's no "best" char...
It all depends on the situation and purpose of the character :rolleyes:.
if you talk about pvp, i think the best pallys are:
hammerdin, mage (foh/hammer), tv (foh, smite), vt (smite, foh), tele smiters, foh (for unprepared duelers)
AgentMarth
12-07-2007, 09:30
I'd like to see your "best" Paladin trying to solo the über-brothers :grin:...
Believe it or not, but my SC Hammerdin I had last season actually did the Ubers solo. Its called a proper gear switch and one point smite and one point Fana with Grief Phase Blade. Given, having exceptionally good gear made it easier, but basically I didn't need to make a pure Smiter or Zealot to do them, I could just gear switch him out.
I assumed by best he meant fastest killer and most all rounder, therefor I said a Hammerdin. It just takes a bit to learn how to aim the hammers, then you kill rather fast and easy.
My favorite Paladin I have ever played was actually my Rift-a-din.
Frosty_The_Snowman
12-07-2007, 10:02
Believe it or not, but my SC Hammerdin I had last season actually did the Ubers solo. Its called a proper gear switch and one point smite and one point Fana with Grief Phase Blade.I know what you mean, but then your char is not a Hammerdin, it's a hybrid Hammerdin/Smiter, and it changes everthing. My point was that a Hammerdin is not the best char in any situation.
SevenOhSix
12-07-2007, 10:22
I took a look at the pally builds a while back and had trouble choosing one I liked. I ended up going with the smiter/zealer, though I haven't really played him much. I think I might have preferred a hammerdin.But that was from what info I could get from what time I was willing to spend reading the guides and reading forum posts about them.
In this thread I've probably heard more than I did in a much longer time reading in that forum. I've also checked out the sorceress builds and the necro builds. In the necro guides sticky it lists each guide nicely with author and a brief 2 or 3 line summary on what the main points of the build are. It would be nice if perhaps the other class forums did this as well; as looking at the lists of sorceress and pally builds can be quite intimidating, it just sort of blurs together into a giant list of red text.
Garisdacar
12-07-2007, 14:09
i had that same problem before finding guides i wanted to follow for paladin and sorc. i still haven't found the right druid guide so i'm crossing two together to try to make a good Hunter.
blessedfist
15-07-2007, 19:54
hammerdin is a cokie cutter, but zealot is more fun
kidsmokin
15-07-2007, 20:03
hammerdin is a cokie cutter, but zealot is more fun
What the heck is a "cokie" cutter?
But I think Hammerdins with 1pt Fanaticism can do uber's easily. It's simply the most effective use of a character. Don't need both a Smiter and a Hammerdin, just make a Hammerdin with a 1pt Fanaticism, basically making it a Smiter (with a few gear changes, of course). Combining the best all-around PvM with the best ubering/PvPing out there is simply worth it, however cheesy or retarded it may be.
Mursilis
16-07-2007, 16:07
What the heck is a "cokie" cutter?
He meant "cookie cutter". It's a build type where there is basically no variation between players. Everyone would have the same skill setup, play the same way and more often than not have the same equipment. The Hammerdin is the classic example of such a build, Meteorb is another.
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