View Full Version : Give Me Herpes To Cure Cancer!
TakeMyCrabs
10-07-2007, 14:01
Source (http://www.forbes.com/forbeslife/health/feeds/hscout/2007/07/09/hscout606166.html)
Genetically Altered Cold Sore Virus Fights Cancer
07.09.07, 12:00 AM ET
MONDAY, July 9 (HealthDay News) -- A modified version of the virus that causes cold sores is showing early promise in targeting colorectal and liver cancer cells, scientists report.
The herpes simplex virus is specially designed so that it grows in specific cancer cells, killing them in the process. The researchers report that the genetically altered virus is safe for healthy tissue.
The findings were presented July 7 at the annual European Society for Medical Oncology meeting in Lugano, Switzerland.
"It doesn't replicate in normal, healthy cells, so our hope is that it will help fight cancers without causing side effects in the rest of the body," Dr. Axel Mescheder, vice president of clinical research and development for MediGene, said in a prepared statement. MediGene is a German biotech company based in Munich.
Mescheder reported safety and efficacy results and described the case of a patient whose liver tumors appeared to be reduced six months after treatment with the virus.
Seven leading cancer centers in the United States are participating in the study.
Almost 40 percent of patients with colorectal cancer die, because cancer spreads to other parts of the body, particularly the liver. The results reported by Mescheder follow testing in the lab and in animals where the virus was shown to be effective at killing colorectal cancer and liver cancer cells.
In 2003, over 73,000 men and almost 71,000 women were diagnosed with colorectal cancer in the United States. That year, close to 28,000 men and 28,000 women died from the disease, which is the second leading cancer killer.
What do you guys think? Worth getting herpes to fight cancer?
Darkflight
10-07-2007, 14:16
No.
If you get cancer, take it like a man and just die. :tongue:
Well, the method might make it worth it.
Stoutwood
10-07-2007, 15:30
If it doesn't replicate in healthy cells, I'm all for it.
If it doesn't replicate in healthy cells, I'm all for it.
Ditto. :thumbsup:
TakeMyCrabs
10-07-2007, 15:40
If it doesn't replicate in healthy cells, I'm all for it.
Isn't one of the big properties of virii mutation? Can't it mutate back into the herpes virus?
Isn't one of the big properties of virii mutation? Can't it mutate back into the herpes virus?
That's a small price to pay for possibly getting rid of a cancer that has a 40% chance to kill you.
Herpes vs a very deadly form of Cancer...
such a hard choice.
Or even:
Herpes vs a prolonged treatment of highly toxic chemicals combined with high does of radiation that gives you about a 40% chance of dying a slow and horrible death.
And thats even assuming you actually get Herpes - which from the sounds of it is extremely unlikely.
Stoutwood
10-07-2007, 16:38
Isn't one of the big properties of virii mutation? Can't it mutate back into the herpes virus?
Not so much. Bacterias tend to be the ones that mutate rapidly. Note that all of the diseases humanity has wiped out or come close to wiping out are viruses.
To clarify the point, RNA viruses such as influenza tend to mutate fairly rapidly, but Herpes Simplex is a double-stranded DNA virus, and thus doesn't evolve rapidly at all.
The interesting issue here is that a Herpes vaccine is currently in the works. As I understand it, the vaccine isn't very effective for males, but it brings up an interesting point. You may have to choose between being able to make out/sleep with skanks at parties, or being able to treat liver cancer at some time in the future. A tough choice for any guy to make, really.
You may have to choose between being able to make out/sleep with skanks at parties, or being able to treat liver cancer at some time in the future. A tough choice for any guy to make, really.
If the only thing you had to worry about from skanks was Herpes then Durex would have gone out of business a long time ago.
HIV
Hep A, B, C
Oh Syphilus! Oh Syphilus! Why must you itch like this!
"Daddy!"
Ghonerreah
Chylimidia
And so many more...
But if that was the only thing then the choice would be pretty easy - just stock up on alicover (spelling?).
TakeMyCrabs
10-07-2007, 17:56
If the only thing you had to worry about from skanks was Herpes then Durex would have gone out of business a long time ago.
HIV
Hep A, B, C
Oh Syphilus! Oh Syphilus! Why must you itch like this!
"Daddy!"
Ghonerreah
Chylimidia
And so many more...
But if that was the only thing then the choice would be pretty easy - just stock up on alicover (spelling?).
"Daddy!" is an STD? What are the symptoms?
"Daddy!" is an STD? What are the symptoms?
No, but it's "something you have to worry about from skanks". :cool:
If the only thing you had to worry about from skanks...
"Daddy!" is an STD? What are the symptoms?
It's very expensive to treat and is known for ruining social lives, causing loss of sleep, headaches and high stress rates and a pain in the ***.
Or alternatively you could look at it as being that Life is an STD that has a 100% mortality rate.
Drosselmeier
10-07-2007, 18:37
If the only thing you had to worry about from skanks was Herpes then Durex would have gone out of business a long time ago.
HIV
Hep A, B, C
Oh Syphilus! Oh Syphilus! Why must you itch like this!
"Daddy!"
Ghonerreah
Chylimidia
And so many more...
But if that was the only thing then the choice would be pretty easy - just stock up on alicover (spelling?).
Because open sores on ones penis is no big deal...
Because open sores on ones penis is no big deal...
Given the number of men who prefer not to use condoms even with the risk of getting incruable and deadly diseases that lead to a really miserable death, I think that if the only risk was a couple of sores every six months or so which can often be prevented with certain medication then the number who would use condoms would be pretty darn low.
Drosselmeier
10-07-2007, 18:54
Given the number of men who prefer not to use condoms even with the risk of getting incruable and deadly diseases that lead to a really miserable death, I think that if the only risk was a couple of sores every six months or so which can often be prevented with certain medication then the number who would use condoms would be pretty darn low.
The thing is, you expect not to catch any disease. It's like crime. You you think it's probable you'll get caught you won't do it,. Generally speaking, only those who believe they'll get away with it commit the crime. Same thing applies to VD. The people who don't use condoms go around thinking "what are the odds" or and figure they probably won't catch anything. The severity of the disease affects the number of condom users but far from everyone use them even if they risk death. In the same way, the smart people will continue using them even if we wipe out deadly STD's. It depends on how the individual thinks about risk.
The thing is, you expect not to catch any disease. It's like crime. You you think it's probable you'll get caught you won't do it,. Generally speaking, only those who believe they'll get away with it commit the crime. Same thing applies to VD. The people who don't use condoms go around thinking "what are the odds" or and figure they probably won't catch anything. The severity of the disease affects the number of condom users but far from everyone use them even if they risk death. In the same way, the smart people will continue using them even if we wipe out deadly STD's. It depends on how the individual thinks about risk.
We're way off topic now - but if many people were really really worried about getting herpes then nobody would ever make out with anyone - Oral Herpes is the same virus.
Now - if HIV was readily transmittable through kissing then you might find peoples willingness to make out with someone in a club be severely diminished.
Or alternatively you could look at it as being that Life is an STD that has a 100% mortality rate.
If life had a 100% statistic mortality rate then there wouldnt be any living things left on earth now would there?
If life had a 100% statistic mortality rate then there wouldnt be any living things left on earth now would there?
*places palm on forehead*
*places palm on forehead*
The correct emote is /facepalm :laugh:
Stoutwood
11-07-2007, 00:54
If the only thing you had to worry about from skanks was Herpes then Durex would have gone out of business a long time ago.
HIV
Hep A, B, C
Oh Syphilus! Oh Syphilus! Why must you itch like this!
"Daddy!"
Ghonerreah
Chylimidia
And so many more...
Well, a good chunk of those can be cured by antibiotics. "Daddy" is the primary reason why I wrap it.
Someone mentioned simplex 1, which is certainly another issue. You pretty much have to take a break from dating when those things flare up.
Drosselmeier
11-07-2007, 02:23
We're way off topic now - but if many people were really really worried about getting herpes then nobody would ever make out with anyone - Oral Herpes is the same virus.
Now - if HIV was readily transmittable through kissing then you might find peoples willingness to make out with someone in a club be severely diminished.
I'm not even sure what point I'm arguing here. It seemed reasonable last night but now it seems confused. Stop the thread. I want to get off.
Still... open sores on your peener man!
Still... open sores on your peener man!
I didn't see anything in the article that specified genital herpes... just herpes. If you've ever had a cold sore, you've got herpes, I'm sorry to say.
Drosselmeier
13-07-2007, 08:32
I didn't see anything in the article that specified genital herpes... just herpes. If you've ever had a cold sore, you've got herpes, I'm sorry to say.
The risk of catching oral herpes is not affected by you not using a condom.
Zombie Brian
13-07-2007, 11:47
Anyone else find it funny that a guy named "TakeMyCrabs" asks us to give him herpes?
All we ever do is take, is it so much to ask that we give a little back?
The risk of catching oral herpes is not affected by you not using a condom.
From what I understand about oral herpes is that it can be transmitted to genitals as well... Correct me if I'm wrong.
From what I understand about oral herpes is that it can be transmitted to genitals as well... Correct me if I'm wrong.
Don't accept any *******s from someone with sores on their mouth.
Also - if you have a cold sore make sure you wash your hands *before* taking a piss.
Drosselmeier
13-07-2007, 21:01
From what I understand about oral herpes is that it can be transmitted to genitals as well... Correct me if I'm wrong.
When I say "catch oral herpes" I mean get herpes on your mouth. It's the same virus so that should be obvious. My point was that in a discussion about condoms and herpes it's sort of beside the point to bring up oral herpes.
Also - if you have a cold sore make sure you wash your hands *before* taking a piss.
That's never going to happen.
Also - if you have a cold sore make sure you wash your hands *before* taking a piss.
Hah you should be glad if I wash my hands after.
At work anyway. At home I dont mind but at work washing my hands between bathroom breaks are just a nusiance.
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