Is this actually possible?

[Ihmhi]

First off I want to say that this video was posted on a site that sells items. I am not in any way endorsing or advocating you using the site; rather, I want to discuss the video this place uses trying to sell its "Paladin Guide".

A Paladin apparantly solos the Ubers in less than a minute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndf1X4ZMf_Q

Now, a Paladin soloing the ubers is well known. Crushing blow, life leech, and smite. Simple. But under a minute like that? And the site promises a "Guide to making an Uber Pally with cheap gear". Doing it that fast (if it is at all possible) using *cheap* gear? I do not know about that.

Anyone care to chime in on this? I already distrust sites like that as it is for a variety of reasons, but now they seem to be resulting to (what seems to me) an outright scam.

[AnimeCraze]

Instead of thinking whether it could be scam, carefully watch the video and try to reverse engineer what kind of gear he has on him, assuming the video is legit. After that, someone try to do the ubers with the same gears and see whether it is possible. Well, here's my analysis:

Amplify damage!? Wow, he's brave...... I guess you can do the ubers that fast if you have amp on them. Fade is on, so it must be treachery (not last wish since there is no life tap). He probably has external BO as well (from a barb and not a CtA), judging from the slowness of the red pot refill speed. Seeing how he is running fanaticism, he is confident about his resist (which means probably a 4 diamond shield and resist charms). Seeing how amp triggered so quickly, he is probably using Lacerator or a rare as a weapon or that he has atma's on. However, his weapon looks more like a flail then an axe, so it should be atma's and black flail. He is probably using Gore's since it has open wound, and the last bit of uber's is fast, so there is probably no regen. His helm should be guillaume's face from the look. He should be using T-gods for belt, and is not using dracs, from the CtC spells.

So in short, his gear is probably:
T-Gods
Ravenfrost
Drawf Star
Treachery
4 diamond resist shield
Gore Rider
Guillaume's Face
Atma's Scarab
Black Flail
Rare or crafted gloves (or damage reduction gloves)
life + resist charms
Barb for massive BO

Probably full smite since the last bit of the uber's life goes away fast.

[Ihmhi]

Some of those items in there come up as "not cheap" in my book, so... basically a flat out lie just like I thought, huh?

[AnimeCraze]

Some of those items in there come up as "not cheap" in my book, so... basically a flat out lie just like I thought, huh?I would say all of them are relatively cheap. I never said the rare/crafted gloves must be good, after all. It might just be a dual resist glove. T-god's and the like are not all cheap, but still can be MFed. Atma's, if it was indeed being used, is totally optional. I am convinced about the cheapness of the gear. I am not so convinced about whether it could be done like that. If someone has these gear, they might want to test it out.

Edit: If this is indeed legit, the video is showing us way too much stuff, and the guide is worthless (since we can rip the gear combination off the video anyways).

[CaptnSparrow]

Instead of thinking whether it could be scam, carefully watch the video and try to reverse engineer what kind of gear he has on him, assuming the video is legit. After that, someone try to do the ubers with the same gears and see whether it is possible. Well, here's my analysis:

Amplify damage!? Wow, he's brave...... I guess you can do the ubers that fast if you have amp on them. Fade is on, so it must be treachery (not last wish since there is no life tap). He probably has external BO as well (from a barb and not a CtA), judging from the slowness of the red pot refill speed. Seeing how he is running fanaticism, he is confident about his resist (which means probably a 4 diamond shield and resist charms). Seeing how amp triggered so quickly, he is probably using Lacerator or a rare as a weapon or that he has atma's on. However, his weapon looks more like a flail then an axe, so it should be atma's and black flail. He is probably using Gore's since it has open wound, and the last bit of uber's is fast, so there is probably no regen. His helm should be guillaume's face from the look. He should be using T-gods for belt, and is not using dracs, from the CtC spells.

So in short, his gear is probably:
T-Gods
Ravenfrost
Drawf Star
Treachery
4 diamond resist shield
Gore Rider
Guillaume's Face
Atma's Scarab
Black Flail
Rare or crafted gloves (or damage reduction gloves)
life + resist charms
Barb for massive BO

Probably full smite since the last bit of the uber's life goes away fast.


CSI: Diablo

[stekkelino]

lol tell my if im wrong, but thats not battle.net, theres no game name.

this is simply a mod or something on sp, dont know how those stuff work but
I have seen one with no minions beeing spawned, the dude said it was a bug but it was simply a mod or something.

and ubers without lifetap? -> no way on a simple smiter.
also notice how his lifbulb simply doesnt move at all?

edit: definatly a mod. he probably has something worked out so he hardly takes dmg or has a gazzilion life.

[Zigot_HD]

Look kinda hacked/fake to me.

[AnimeCraze]

lol tell my if im wrong, but thats not battle.net, theres no game name.Mini map is not on.

and ubers without lifetap? -> no way on a simple smiter.
also notice how his lifbulb simply doesnt move at all?I saw amp being recommended in the barb forum. I am sure a 3k pally with maxed resist and appropiate absorb gear can have his life not moving much.

I can't say whether it is fake or not. As I have said from before, the easiest way to confirm is to figure out his gear, and try it out yourself.

[Pyro Dynasty]

btw if you have a smiterdin with grief coh exile guillames gores ravens tgods bloodfists etc u can do ubers solo in like 2 min... so that could be very possible

[AnimeCraze]

The point is that he is not relying on life tap, nor is he relying on expensive gear (or so he claimed).

[obiwansbane]

as soon as you said grief coh and exile one after the other i laughed pyro...

thats not anybody's idea of cheap...

With a good set up ubers in a minute is easy, it all depends on how you execute it...

With the cheap set up however, i find it hard to believe that it was done so quickly, actually its pretty much impossible... i probably do it slightly slower than that with a setup that would prob have cost around 20hr pre reset.

So my verdict is its fake, and that they are using godly gear to make that video. And since they are only selling you the information they will just say your technique sucks and thats why you are not as good as their runner who made the video.

[AnimeCraze]

Anyways, godly gear or not, the fact that there are people who uses amp for ubers does surprise me. Apparently my impression that you MUST use life tap to survive is false, then.

[stfrn]

I saw amp being recommended in the barb forum. I am sure a 3k pally with maxed resist and appropiate absorb gear can have his life not moving much.


But barbs will always have BO, prolly level 26 if they are any good, so plenty of life. Also, they aren't using smite, so they can leech without lifetap. Thusly amp in general is better then lifetap for barbs since they have the survivablity, and want dmg. Paladins using smite are a different story.

[AnimeCraze]

Meph is unleechable. Pally can always get BO from a barb. Why must one think that you have to do Trist with 1 and only 1 player? A barb can come in, BO, leave, then pally opens the portal. I have done it once beginning of last ladder.

[obiwansbane]

or you can just get a CTA and have plus skills line up, bo yourself, switch to uber gear and run it

[AnimeCraze]

But that's not cheap anymore. CtA certainly requires more than Lem, does it not?

[obiwansbane]

Thats where they come in with playing on words. He knows that we know, that he cant do that without help. The gear he's talking about is what he took in with him to ubers. Doesnt mean he didnt get a bunch of godly buffs that most usual runners cant get. Hes talkin about himself, not the people who helped him

[AnimeCraze]

Thats where they come in with playing on words. He knows that we know, that he cant do that without help. The gear he's talking about is what he took in with him to ubers. Doesnt mean he didnt get a bunch of godly buffs that most usual runners cant get. Hes talkin about himself, not the people who helped himWell, if the barb is similarly equipped, that's fine by my book (which will give a ~lvl 30 buff, from +3 swords x2 and a +3 ammy, and maybe a little more from the helm/armor). If the barb gives a lvl 50 BO, it's NOT fine by my book. I am sure that a lvl 30 BO should be enough, however.

[sirpoopsalot]

Don't forget, "cheap" is a relative term... you're potentially comparing our forums' rules of not using realworld $$$ to purchase D2 items, to a place that sells items for $$$... perhaps they're using the "everyday" meaning of cheap, and for the reasonable cost of $0.25 you can get all of the top-end equipment necessary... :laugh:


That's my 2 cents.

... uhh... not literally... you probably couldn't buy a Tir rune for 2 cents. :tongue:

[AnimeCraze]

I don't know...... Read my analysis from the beginning of the thread. He can't be using dracs, exile, or last wish. And if he is not using dracs, it is natural to assume that all his gears are cheaper than dracs (otherwise, you are going to get dracs instead of whatever that you got, given that dracs is like that 1 thing that can guarantee your survival).