Help with frenzy

[dutes]

I'm playing a frenzy barb and have just hit level 24 and got frenzy, however the supposably super fast frenzy is actually painfully slow, much, much slower than double swing has been. I know this isn't right but can't put my finger on the reason this is happening (this is my first character for about 3 years).

weapon wise i'm using a rare broadsword - fast attack speed with no ias bonuses and a rare bastard sword - normal attack speed and no ias bonuses
also no ias gear as yet (playing untwinked and unmodded).
I'm assuming that the problem has somethign to do with my weapon choice, is the slowness caused by the variation between each weapons speed or differing weapon range?

Its annoying having built the skill up so much in my mind to have it so slow to attack with, can anyone point me to the precise reason?

[Croup]

Make sure that when you're equipping your dual weapons, you first place the fastest weapon in the weapon slot above the gloves. Being your primary hand, that brings up your frenzying speed.

[dutes]

thanks that helps marginally, it seems a lot slower than i remember it... then again i probably had a large amount of ias when i last played...

[rikstaker]

Okay.

frenzy is actually slower than doubleswing-it wil always be slower regardless of what.Doubleswing attacks two targets at once or one traget twice.Frenzy is like a quick one after another attack.However:

Frenzy becomes faster with consecutive hits.You just got frenzy & a level 1 frenzy isn't frenzy at all,meaning your speed wont increase with consecutive hits,so wait till you have maxed the skill & then as you continue attacking your speed will be almost as good as doubleswing(you will still need off weapon ias) but with much more damage.

have frenzy on rightclick,its auto-aim that way & you will not have range conflict.Like said above equip the faster weapon first & on the slot above gloves.

[khalten]

As Rik said, it starts off slow, especially with only 1 slvl in it. Get some points in it, and watch yourself rev up as you are swinging. Enjoy frenzy, to date it is by far my favorite build.

[dutes]

i've got 5 points in it now (trying to balance upping it for the extra speed or sword mastery which gives a better return on AR (and the same damage)) and its much more as i remembered it :grin:

thanks guys :thumbsup:

[Reneirwolfcastle]

have frenzy on rightclick,its auto-aim that way & you will not have range conflict.I've never heard this before. I've always had frenzy in left click. Could you please give me a quick synopsis of what is this auto aim thing is? Thanks, and sorry to hijack the thread!

[karatedan]

Ok, auto aim. If frenzy is on your right click, and you start swinging away in one spot, any monster that comes in your weapon range will be attacked, regardless of which direction your mouse is pointed.

Rik suggests this because let's say you have frenzy on left click and you click on a monster. Your barb will engage the monster and attack, but ONLY up to the point of the longer range of your two weapons. This would be a problem if say one of your weapons has range 3, and the other has range 2. The weapon with range 2 will not be hitting the monster because your barb will only be far enough away for your weapon of range 3 to hit. However, if both of your weapons have the same range, then you don't have to worry about this problem.

If you have range conflict, and you want frenzy on left click, you can always hold alt and walk closer to the enemy, and THEN start attacking. This will ensure that both weapons hit.

[rikstaker]

karat covered it pretty well-I'll explain "auto-aim" in detail.

Frenzy is like auto aim-when you have it on right click & hold down right mouse button & just guide your barb towards targets(when near),you dont have to actually click on them,when in range he will frenzy automatically.

I guess its explained better than that in Ash's guide.

[Ash Housewares]

frenzy and double swing both have the same maximum speed, and frenzy will speed up fast eventually, but I usually stick with double swing til frenzy has atleast 4 points in it or so, maybe longer if untwinked with slow weapons

the right click thing works with any melee skill, but with frenzy its a huge improvement since you're moving so damn fast its hard to target and why think and select targets anyways when you're in an insane frenzy?