Moster Specific MF Builds

[linkcasey]

I wanted to get some advice as to what people recommend to the various MF scenarios. I want to know what people think are the best builds for the following monsters. I am planning on making 3 MF characters for the next ladder.

NM Andy glitch -

Hell Meph glitch -

Hell Baal and Pindle -

Thanks for any advice

[Miikai]

Lightning sorc with infinity.

[MYK]

I run....errr. ...ran NM Andy/Mephist and Hell Mephisto with the build described in this thread: http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=557123

I don't know anything about Pindle or Hell Baal. WsK is a bit on the dangerous side for me.

[Thyiad]

I would use a Blizzballer for all of them. Blizzard might be a tad quicker but the Blizzballer has the versitility of being able to go anywhere.

[Noite Escura]

NM Andy glitch - Meteorb or Fireball/Orb

Hell Meph glitch - Blizzard

Hell Baal and Pindle - Blizzard/Fireball

[imrickyduh]

what to do u mean by HELL meph glitch or the other glitches? whats the glitch

[Tpsu]

I was wondering the same thing, is there some glitch on mephisto? or are you talking about moat trick?

[Mikk0]

what to do u mean by HELL meph glitch or the other glitches? whats the glitch

andy glitch you can iqnore cause its done by just traveling via warrive to act2 after the quest is complited

but hell meph glicth is (also works with duriel/diablo/baal):

when player hasen killed the act boss (like mephy) for quest (quest drop reward) and kills it in a game (like baalrun-01) where quest cannot be complited you can get the quest drop but not the quest.

hope i explained it correctly and it made sens :scratch:

[imrickyduh]

andy glitch you can iqnore cause its done by just traveling via warrive to act2 after the quest is complited

but hell meph glicth is (also works with duriel/diablo/baal):

when player hasen killed the act boss (like mephy) for quest (quest drop reward) and kills it in a game (like baalrun-01) where quest cannot be complited you can get the quest drop but not the quest.

hope i explained it correctly and it made sens :scratch:

thnx man, explained it well, I kinda knew about that but since ladder reset havent been able to try it out yet. how big of an advantage is it? like you are guaranteed better stuff faster? seems there's still a lot of glitches whenever d2 gets updated, cuz u got ubers glitch and stuff, perming stuff, u know.

[muzzz]

IIRC, the difference between a quest drop and a normal drop is that quest drops never contain junk (gold, arrows, etc.). This could net you one or two extra magic/rare/set/unique items. But I'm not familiar enough with item generation to say what effect this has on your chance of finding something useful, or how the number of players factors in.

[Blades of War]

ok so can you not do that same trick with Andy? if no why dosnt that work?

[stephan]

It is not necessary to do it with when andy. Andy is bugged meaning that when you kill her for the first time you only need to talk to Warriv and go to act 2. That ensures Andy will always have her quest drop enabled.

[melianor]

Using Baal games when you have not completed Mephisto yet is one way. Might earn you some distaste from the players there though, unless you help them with Baal beforehand. You can always do this with a friend who has already killed Mephisto AND who then creates the game for you.

[Mikk0]

thnx man, explained it well, I kinda knew about that but since ladder reset havent been able to try it out yet. how big of an advantage is it? like you are guaranteed better stuff faster? seems there's still a lot of glitches whenever d2 gets updated, cuz u got ubers glitch and stuff, perming stuff, u know.

about the advantage i cant really tell. but i can give you an example :thumbsup:

i raided diablo runs with my novaress (champion) and killed baal sometimes too. she only had 30% mf from infy but baal always dropped like 5 rares. and as she became matriartch i only got magic items out of baal.

i also had an 93 blizz sorc to raid games with (no mephi q done) but i still think mephisto drops werent that great (andy > mephi atleast uniq rings/ammys). maybe i could try it out on NL side. 20 runs with glitch and after that doing the quest and trying 20 runs with the quest.

when you reach nm/hell a3 you could try it out.. :wave:

[Advisory]

how big of an advantage is it? like you are guaranteed better stuff faster?

Well, taken from ATMA...

Hell Mephisto's chance to drop Shako with 300 MF in a 1 player game:
1:771

Quest kill with everything else the same:
1:510

Ormus' Robes improve from 1:737 to 1:488

SoJ- 1:7568 to 1:5010 (In other words, keep running NM Andy for this :wink3: )

[aera]

There is a way to see if you have the Andy bug.

Kill her, and if a blue item drops, the durability will be (correct me if im wrong) more than double, if you have the bug.

:scratch:

[muzzz]

A magic item with extra durability is what they call a "failed" set item. From the item generation tutorial:

* If you roll a Unique when one of that type does not exist or from a monster not high enough to drop it, you'll get a Rare of that type item with 3x the normal durability.
* If you roll a Set when one of that type does not exist or from a monster not high enough to drop it, you'll get a Magical of that type item with 2x the normal durability.
* Both of these can also happen when monsters aren't high enough to drop the given set or unique.
* This also happens with Uniques, if the same one is selected to drop more than once in a game. Since it can only drop once, the 2nd, 3rd, etc times it will drop to a 3x durability Rare.

Both normal and quest Andariel can drop failed set or unique items. I don't know of any way to be sure you have bugged her drop, as anything in her quest TC is also in her normal TC.