Impressive Lightning Sorceress

[wangboBW]

Ok, one of my hardcore friends recently showed me the character that he used to rush me through hell. I was surprised to find that his sorceress wasn't a meteorb, blizzard etc... But a lightning sorceress.

Now he did have infinity/coh/griffon's eye/hoto and stuff. But he was killing ancients with a sorceress who has barely 1.8k life after BO!

I was very impressed and intend on building one of my own once I accumulate the gear. But I guess here is my question:

Is there any other builds out there that can rush/kill baal in hell as effectively as an infinity lightning sorceress? The only one that I think might come close is a hammerdin.

[ulmty]

Yeah hammerdin and Lite sorc are the only ones I know of with tele. The rest have trouble with immunities.

[Rawness]

Poison necro can go with the same speed ( summon hybride ), maybe some other build.. can't really recall something like that.

[Jek]

I've seen clever bone necros go with pretty much same speed.

[wangboBW]

Humm, it seems that builds that have little immunities are always very successful. The only problem with bone necros in HC is that everyone is going to think you are tppker. Therefore, I would rather stick to builds that are clearly not (i.e. hammerdins, light sorceress) candidates for tppk.

[circumflexon]

My light sorceress is by far my favorite character of all of mine. She rushes and magic finds faster than anything I've ever seen :D

[FinalFantasyFreak]

Yeah hammerdin and Lite sorc are the only ones I know of with tele. The rest have trouble with immunities.

Hmmm are you saying a lightning sorceress has no trouble with immunities?

Maybe this is a noob question, but wouldn't a lightning only sorceress have trouble with lightning immunes?

[Thyiad]

A lightening sorceress wouldn't have a problem with immunities if she used infinity.

Check this list for which immunities are broken by infinity (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?p=4842341&highlight#post4842341).

In SP, an Infinity using light sorc was doing 2:20 Baal runs. Video link in my sig. 65mb download.

[stephan]

Now he did have infinity/coh/griffon's eye/hoto and stuff. But he was killing ancients with a sorceress who has barely 1.8k life after BO!
Since when is killing Ancients that much of an achievement? :tongue:

[FinalFantasyFreak]

A lightening sorceress wouldn't have a problem with immunities if she used infinity.

Check this list for which immunities are broken by infinity (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?p=4842341&highlight#post4842341).

In SP, an Infinity using light sorc was doing 2:20 Baal runs. Video link in my sig. 65mb download.

Omg nice, impressive indeed. Is there any monster whatsoever whose Lightning Immunity cannot be broken though? And if you could be so kind as to point out which those are I would appreciate it :)

Another question - is a lightning sorceress capable of killing all monster in the game, if having her skills supported by cold attacks, such as orb?

[Thyiad]

Infinity gives a level 12 conviction aura; -85% resist. I don't need to point it out; MageChick did in that post; he already did the hard work, just check the link out.

You *could* take out LI monsters with FO but bear in mind for every point in Orb and CM, you lose lightening power. Depends what you want to do.

Have a read of this about a FO/CL sorceress (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=536471): it's from SP where the highend runewords are much more scarce.

[FinalFantasyFreak]

Infinity gives a level 12 conviction aura; -85% resist. I don't need to point it out; MageChick did in that post; he already did the hard work, just check the link out.

You *could* take out LI monsters with FO but bear in mind for every point in Orb and CM, you lose lightening power. Depends what you want to do.

Have a read of this about a FO/CL sorceress (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=536471): it's from SP where the highend runewords are much more scarce.

Yes I have the link and I've already checked it out ^^ What I am wondering if I can kill ALL LI monsters with infinity, or are there those LI monsters whose immunities cannot be broken?

I always put only 1 point in CM since I don't really need any more than that, and 20 in orb, plus prerequisites. So lightning would still be quite powerful.

[melianor]

Just remember that a Lightning build using Infinity is pretty much out of range in the new Ladder, until some HRs start turning up ;) Otherwise Infinity-Lightning sorceresses are pretty damn powerful.

[FinalFantasyFreak]

Just remember that a Lightning build using Infinity is pretty much out of range in the new Ladder, until some HRs start turning up ;) Otherwise Infinity-Lightning sorceresses are pretty damn powerful.

Yes indeed, I am aware of that ^^

Such a shame lightning needs so much to be powerful, the choice of good damaging spells is really scarce in the lightning tree.

[Jek]

Yes indeed, I am aware of that ^^

Such a shame lightning needs so much to be powerful, the choice of good damaging spells is really scarce in the lightning tree.

Uhm.

Aren't Charged Bolt, Nova, Lightning and Chain Lightning all good? :shocked:

You don't _need_ an infinity to do good, +skills and a somewhat decent merc (read: Insight in ethereal is enough) to do fine. I'm sure a Prayer/Insight merc with Duress/G.Face would plow through most LIs pretty fast.

+skills: Spirit + Skill charms (skill charms which the lightning sorc by nature are suited to find)
Insight: Which is helluva easy to make.

How come most people seems too used to have uberly insane charged-up lightning sorcs. :afro:

Personally I'd go for a Lightning sorc and a Smiter to get torches ASAP. :-)

[jonw]

Uhm.

Aren't Charged Bolt, Nova, Lightning and Chain Lightning all good? :shocked:

You don't _need_ an infinity to do good, +skills and a somewhat decent merc (read: Insight in ethereal is enough) to do fine. I'm sure a Prayer/Insight merc with Duress/G.Face would plow through most LIs pretty fast.

+skills: Spirit + Skill charms (skill charms which the lightning sorc by nature are suited to find)
Insight: Which is helluva easy to make.

How come most people seems too used to have uberly insane charged-up lightning sorcs. :afro:

Personally I'd go for a Lightning sorc and a Smiter to get torches ASAP. :-)

I agree. People have gotten to the point where if you don't do 40K damage it's as though you can't kill anything. A lot of people don't remember this, but once upon not every single lite sorc in the game had perfect griffons, perfect eschutas, 9 lite gcs, perf storch, etc. :hanky:

[FinalFantasyFreak]

Uhm.

Aren't Charged Bolt, Nova, Lightning and Chain Lightning all good? :shocked:

You don't _need_ an infinity to do good, +skills and a somewhat decent merc (read: Insight in ethereal is enough) to do fine. I'm sure a Prayer/Insight merc with Duress/G.Face would plow through most LIs pretty fast.

+skills: Spirit + Skill charms (skill charms which the lightning sorc by nature are suited to find)
Insight: Which is helluva easy to make.

How come most people seems too used to have uberly insane charged-up lightning sorcs. :afro:

Personally I'd go for a Lightning sorc and a Smiter to get torches ASAP. :-)

Now now I didn't say it's unplayable or anything ^^

But it occurs to me that other trees have it easier when it comes to picking spells. Also if you take a look skills such as orb and Fwall don't need synergies, you can get along fine without synergies, while lightning can only become viable with many points invested in it, synergies and all that. That's what I was trying to say. You need too many points to make it viable compared to other builds. That's just my opinion though ^^

[Turmoil]

Any build is going to benefit from an infinity merc. But there won't be many infinities on the new ladder for a while, not many legit ones anyway, and I'd be interested to know how a light sorc would fare doing Baal/Meph runs without it.

Without infinity, are you better off building a blizz or meteorb sorc, or are you still saying light would be better?

[wangboBW]

I doubt there has ever been many "legit" infinities on ladder. I doubt anyone could have 2 self found ber runes in one ladder...

The reality is that most if not all high runes in trade are dupes. The probability of finding just one ber is low enough. What is the probability of a person finding a ber rune, keeping it and not making an enigma out of it, and finding another ber rune?

But to answer your question. I would build a blizzard sorceress.

[melianor]

Just to confirm this. The basic ol' Lightning sorceress is great! At the beginning of the last ladder it was the first char i built, though i played her together with a Fire and Cold sorceress. She can still do well, but will not be the uber killing machine.

[The Cow King]

Doesn't pure lightning have like... problems when it comes to solo MF?

Sure she can do Pindle / Shenk - Countess, but that still excludes all alvl 85 areas and hell bosses (pretty much).

[melianor]

Doesn't pure lightning have like... problems when it comes to solo MF?

Sure she can do Pindle / Shenk - Countess, but that still excludes all alvl 85 areas and hell bosses (pretty much).

You can run "Mausoleum", which branches off from Blood Raven, which is area level 85. But sure she is more limited. Also i think "Ancient Tunnels" in Act 3 are a possibility and easy to clear.

[The Cow King]

Actually there are nothing BUT lightning immunes in Mausoleum, and Ancient tunnels are in Act II Lost City :laugh:

But anyway, I think those nasty archers are LI in AT so that will cause a headache.

[PhatTrumpet]

I doubt there has ever been many "legit" infinities on ladder. I doubt anyone could have 2 self found ber runes in one ladder...

The reality is that most if not all high runes in trade are dupes. The probability of finding just one ber is low enough. What is the probability of a person finding a ber rune, keeping it and not making an enigma out of it, and finding another ber rune?

But to answer your question. I would build a blizzard sorceress.
Just for reference, xey, a fairly well-known contributor to the Hardcore Forum, managed to make a legit 'Infinity' shortly before losing his lvl 98 Lightning Sorc to lag last season (at which point he quit and moved on to WoW). With a little help from his friends he was able to cube up to one Ber, then another one of his friends found a Ber during a Meph run and traded it to him.

There's also at least one person I know of on the Single Player Forum that has a legit 'Infinity', so it is definitely possible... not easy, but possible.

[tripsu]

The nice thing about SP is that you have an infinite amount of time to save and find runes. Even though they do come slow, some people have been playing SP for 4 or 5 years so they have the runes. Getting an infinity on ladder is more difficult because of the resets.

[BattleQueen]

It's not impossible. Keep rushg ppl for forges & you might end up with enough Gul runes to cube a coupla Bers. Otherwise, put a Reaper's Toll on a merc to trigger Decrepify which breaks down immunities.

[wangboBW]

@ BattleQueen Decrepify removes physical immunities, nothing else.

@PhatTrumpet Ahh, I am not up to date with everything because I haven't played in about 2-3 years. However, I am technically correct in saying what I did. Xey did not have 2 self found ber runes. I also said that there weren't many legit infinities on ladder, which is true. The majority of them are made from duped runes.

[CoolDarkDragon]

I made a melee sorc, dual dream, eth upped skullders, cheap war travs, upped chancies, goldwrap, anni, 17/19 sorc torch, 33mf ammy, dual nagels 27/28, 1x fire gc, 1x light gc, 1x low gheeds, rest are pretty much 4-7% sc's

eschuta and spirit on swap

merc with infinity thresher (non-eth)


I do around 39kdmg after an enchant
max enchant
max warmth
max light mastery


once i get to durance 3 in hell mode, i can tele and kill meph in 10-20 seconds

melee is fun :)

[lome]

Sorry to bring this up, but what is this build exactly? Can someone point me to the build or can they post the build here?