Interest in an Ironman League

[inSTAALed]

Ironman tournaments are tournaments where a group of 8 people party up and level up to 9 without returning to town. Upon reaching level 9, you return to town (without buying or repairing anything) and engage in a huge free for all battle royale!

It is truly the ultimate contest of skill in PvP and Drop Hoarding. It... is... IRONMAN!

I am trying to figure out how interested people would be in a league revolving around ironman games. Every game would be scored and the leader in points at the end of the month would receive prizes (most likely from an entry fee required to enter the tournament, although this may be excluded from the first month)

Some basic ideas we have planned out:

- Scoring will be done by points. 1st place in a game gets 7, 2nd gets 6 and so on down the list.
- We are thinking of extending this past one month per stash if there is enough interest. First month would involve everyone and go up to level 9 and the top half of the participants would move on to month two. The second month would go up to level 9 as well, but only the top 8 participants move on. The third and final month would go up to either 9/15/21 as voted on by the final round of players.
- Entry fee would most likely be Pgems or some sort of item that isn't completely useless.
- Maybe throw the idea around of certain games being "specialty" games with special rules such as: all players must be a certain class, players may gamble equipment when they get to level 9, etc.


Reply with words about how awesome this would be and how much you would love to take part in it :D

[TheSatan]

Sounds like a good idea, I'd do it

[Breaker]

I'd participate, sounds like fun.

[Gambitsreturn]

Sounds like a great idea! I would love to take part in this!

[The Cow King]

I would very much be ingame. The only downside I can see is that you'd have to plan timezones etc... carefully for the participants (eight players per game, set time). VLLD ftw! :sunny:

edit: btw is this hardcore mode? And how is the 1st place measured (since it's FFA)? By number of kills?

[inSTAALed]

That is why there would be multiple hosts.

Whoever could host would put up a game and then whoever was around would join into it.

That part of it probably needs more planning, but once we get around that it will be awesome.

[Ikeren]

I like the idea, however, the last iron man I played, it wasn't to level 9, but to Andariels death - everyone finishes act 1 in a mass game and takes that portal, heading straight out to town again. I think it allows for the opening up of slightly more strategy - *Shrug*. I would be in, though, sounds like fun either way.

[inSTAALed]

I would very much be ingame. The only downside I can see is that you'd have to plan timezones etc... carefully for the participants (eight players per game, set time). VLLD ftw! :sunny:

edit: btw is this hardcore mode? And how is the 1st place measured (since it's FFA)? By number of kills?

Yes, HC.

1st place is measured by who dies last.

I like the idea, however, the last iron man I played, it wasn't to level 9, but to Andariels death - everyone finishes act 1 in a mass game and takes that portal, heading straight out to town again. I think it allows for the opening up of slightly more strategy - *Shrug*. I would be in, though, sounds like fun either way.

We could try that for one of the specialty things, maybe.

[YoungDbl]

I'd do it.

[SiTro]

The idea had crept into my head recently but didn't mention it. I'd be interested.

[Colorless Green]

I'd definitely play. I've never done one of these before, sounds like fun.

[xduckster]

If this is going to be scored 1 month at a time, you should put a limit on to how many games each person can participate it. Maybe 5/6 games each month. Just to even it out a little for the people who can't play as often.

[inSTAALed]

We were originally going to do it by winning % which would allow unlimited games but people who didn't play a certain number would get automatically disqualified.

Since we are going with points instead, a game limit will definitely need to be used. Good work in catching that, duckster.

[Brak]

Sounds like a fun idea, though my schedule's likely too tight for participation.

Idea on the scoring. Have a minimum number of tournies that you may compete in to be eligible (say 4 per month). Then average people's scores across all tournies competed in. This way there isn't a clear advantage for the person that has the most free time. Only downside is that if someone starts off with a really good set of 4, then they're less likely to want to drop their average.

[Surfing is my life]

I guess restarting recently means I dont have many items. And I dont have a stash program (don't know how to get GoMule to work). Which means I'm kind of lost for how I will place an entry fee.

[inSTAALed]

Hey, they only take about an hour per game.

If you can open up an hour somewhere every few days, you can participate no problem.

[Ikeren]

You'd be surprised the difficulty of getting 8 people to co-ordinate the *same* hour. I am not saying it is impossible, and I do think this is a great idea and totally an option for a ton of fun. As for a monthly limit/minimum, I don't think it really matters. I think the players that play a ton are going to be the "Winners", although even using the term "Win" is very artificial to me, because it places over-emphasis on competetiveness, when the game is just meant as pure fun.

[Sint Nikolaas]

I remember winning the last Ironman tournament held on this forum.. /brag.

It's a nice idea, we played it in two (or three?) groups of 4 to keep the lag down and the winner would just move a game up. Also we'd allow people to shop in town so that people wouldn't whine about drops or someone who has good ping hogging all the items. Else people would pretty much have to assume they have to duel with their starting gear.

I'd probably join if I don't have to go out of my way to get online on the right time. I still know the various builds by heart that stand ''more then a chance''.

Also, keep in mind that you can do the Den of Evil quest within those 9 levels (so do you want people to have an extra skill point or not?) and since you're debating whether there should be an entry fee (which I wouldn't support) you could opt for people to mule on 5 pefrect gems to get start money to spend at level 9. (but that's ofcourse if you'd allow shopping..)

[Drystan]

Ok, some things I'd like to know. They are mainly issues.

1. Are any skills banned?
Similarly, are any items banned?

2. Timezones would be extremely hard. You can argue, it's only 1 hour, however, that hour can be extremely difficult as some people are at school, some on holidays, some in bed.
Similarly, the 1 or 2 off games are fine, but an actual tournament requires multiple games. It is a very low chance for me to play in multiple games in a long time framed tournament where I have to be available when other people are.

3. This is HC. So what is the winning stash? HC/SC/mod? I could only donate HC RRM/RWM items, but they are worthless to a SC vanilla player. Similarly, a SC Tyrael's Might is pretty worthless to me. Does that mean that SC vanilla players can't/won't win a stash, or who will organise various stashes?
Similarly, it should be fine for some people who can't/don't have the items to not be required to have an entry fee.

4. If it were to Andariel's death, it would mean level 18'ish, and more time. I personally would prefer level 9, due to time investments.
Similarly, if it were to Andariel's death, there could be some people who insist on clearing a few of the caves to get extra levels. This to me would increase the time requirements, which are already an issue. :)

5. If there is a restriction to number of games, there is a chance that 3 or 4 people can't have a full house game (because everyone else has had their max game limit,) thus, they have a 1 in 4 chance (4 people) instead of 1 in 8 of coming first. Any thoughts on this?

That's all for now. All are open to comment. Some are not as valid or significant as others, but others are merely suggestions for the host to think about.

[stephan]

I like the whole idea, except the entry fee. I deleted everything I have less than a month ago.

[Thyiad]

Depending how the final rules are, I am likely to join. Nice idea. :thumbsup:

If I read the opening post right, start a new HC char and get to level nine. No twinking. Fantastic.

Entry fee/prizes
I would lose the fee and go for bragging rights as a prize. The stash thing is a disaster waiting to happen for reasons outlined above. Also for those on a restart; they may not *have* the resources. It cuts the base of potential participants.

Drop outs
Don't underestimate how hard it is to get people online at the same time. The biggest pain in the rear with the PvP I organized was just getting people together. I'm fairly sure at least a couple of battles took place in the very very very early hours for a few people.

Rules
You need some. :grin: There won't be a huge number of skills at level nine but summons? What about shopping order for players? In an 8 page game there could be some congestion in the aisles. (IIRC items don't refresh until everyone leaves town, too, so there would be a huge amount of pressure to get to town first once you hit level 9 to grab the best items.) What above everyone getting one "clear run" at the vendors?

"PvPers are lazy" - Liquid_Evil :wink:

[Drystan]

Also, with time constraints. The Co-op tournament by YoungDBL was quite good, but unfortunately, that was unfinished because there were only 3 teams I think, and it was a long term tournament.
It was also very difficult to meet up constantly, even though there were only 2 members to a team, and we were both in the same timezone.

[The Cow King]

1. Are any skills banned?


I think (I THINK!?) that Bone Armor should be made one cast, or completely banned (?). Otherwise necros are gonna sweep the floor :evil:

Might go without saying but... pots? No pots? Allowing shrines or wells might encourage tactical play (battle of the well, anyone?) but ??? Also my vote for the lvl 9 bracket, for fast fun. Getting to Andy (lvl 18) takes hours.

[inSTAALed]

No skills are banned. If a necro

No items are banned (it's untwinked).

No potions in battle, shrines are fine.

We can drop the entry fee. I have a pretty cool idea for the first prize that doesn't involve items at all.

There is no shopping allowed in an ironman tournament (unless one of the specialty rules games allows it (and i don't even know if there will be specialty rules games))

Once we get a fairly good number of people together we will go through and figure out a way to work out the time issues.

The only way it will go above level 9 is if the players in the final round vote on a different level limit.

If there is a game that isn't full, the points system would have to get changed. Either that or we could move to a 1v1 style tournament within a game, but that is not as fun as a free for all one.

If anybody is interested, I could run an ironman tournament demo so you can all see what it would be like.

[Thyiad]

Hey this is looking good for participants:

inSTAALed
TheSatan
Breaker
Gamitsreturn
TheCowKing
Ikeren
YoungDbl
SiTro
Colorless Green
xduckster
Brak
Surfing is my life
Sint Nikolaas
Drystan
stephan
Thyiad
skoolbus

[inSTAALed]

I'm 85% sure skoolbus can be added to that list since he is helping me out with rules and such.

Just wait for him to post, though. I don't like talking for other people.

[skoolbus]

Yep. 10 chars

[SiTro]

Do we want some practice rounds to hammer out a few of the rules? I'm quite busy this week, but I'd be up for hosting a few rounds on Friday evening, if you want to theorise about what rules need testing before then?

[zarfen]

I might be willing to help out sorting some rules by joining a practice game or two if people are needed. I like the idea but I'm not liking the idea of joining a long time league, I hate when people drop out in an on-going thing, and therefore I don't wanna do that to other people.

edit: btw, do the party have to go together? If they have to items will get very battled over and cause large arguments between the ppl with good ping and the ones with bad ping.

[inSTAALed]

I might be willing to help out sorting some rules by joining a practice game or two if people are needed. I like the idea but I'm not liking the idea of joining a long time league, I hate when people drop out in an on-going thing, and therefore I don't wanna do that to other people.

edit: btw, do the party have to go together? If they have to items will get very battled over and cause large arguments between the ppl with good ping and the ones with bad ping.

The party doesn't have to go together if they don't want to.

I'm going to host a practice ironman right now at 24.148.238.238 and if more than 2 or 3 people show up we can test some things out.

Just make new HC chars.

[zarfen]

ok, I am too busy right now, but maybe if there are some people up for it later, maybe tomorrow :P

[skoolbus]

The party doesn't have to go together if they don't want to.

I'm going to host a practice ironman right now at 24.148.238.238 and if more than 2 or 3 people show up we can test some things out.

Just make new HC chars.

I should be able to join in a few minutes. I haven't done one in ages, hope I'm not too late.

[inSTAALed]

Nope, nobody is in here yet.

I'm just leaving it sit minimized for a short bit until some people show up.

[Gambitsreturn]

There are three of us atm. We are waiting for a couple more

[inSTAALed]

There are three of us atm. We are waiting for a couple more

What he said.

If you want to get a feel for ironman, now is your chance.

Most games after today will be to test different rule types and right now we are just doing regular ironman.

[inSTAALed]

4 people in there right now, one more and we will start.

[pwangsta]

oh dear. Demolished by Rakanishu. Guess I'd better polish up my non-existent HC skills before this thing starts for real. Thanks for the game, instaaled.

[EasyGijs]

love the idea

[skoolbus]

That was a disaster, this needs A TON of work before it's remotely playable. You know that when you leave the game, it was over for all of us?

[stephan]

Uhm...

Don't make HC chars for hosting this type if thing. If the host dies and happens to continue the game exits. There is no good reason for preferring HC in this tourny anyway. People who get killed can just stay in town.

[Ikeren]

The last Ironman I did was SC; when you died, you were out and stayed in town. I meant during the duel - why do we care if a character dies getting to 9th level? It doesn't give them any added benefit. I think we can trust people in D2 not to screw around with the duels once they are dying.

Okay; so, no healing potions, no skills banned; Prayer-a-din?

[Brak]

Yes I second the SC angle. There's no need and it just complicates things. If die during PvE you come in last place and don't compete in the FFA.

EDIT: The only skill restriction I'd like to see is no bone armor recasting.

[Gambitsreturn]

Wow that clay golem was annoying :wink: I was fun guys!

[The Cow King]

EDIT: The only skill restriction I'd like to see is no bone armor recasting.


Well in our test duel I made a Bone Armor / Amp / Golem (slow) necro, but with the main damage ending up being elemental, I didn't need to recast it in the first place. Although I'd still prefer it as one cast.

The second duel was awesome though. The first one was ruined by the well.

[inSTAALed]

That was a disaster, this needs A TON of work before it's remotely playable. You know that when you leave the game, it was over for all of us?

Yeah, I wasn't thinking about that when I hit esc.

We did another one after you left and it went much much better.

SC will most likely be better since some people can't avoid dying to zombies and quill rats...

[EasyGijs]

Haha that was fun, I also think sc would be better. it's alittle bit annoying of your dead and accidently exit game.

Prayerdin also seemed to be overpowered, but 4 chipped skulls do the same trick, maybe a ban on life replenish...

[Glenstorm]

The second round was a lot of fun, its much better with shopping and no shrines. It seems like a lot of builds can be viable, over the 2 games we had a wolf druid, a bear druid, 2 assassins, a thorns paladin, a holy fire paladin, a necro with amp damage, golem, and bone armor, a barb, and my doomed sorc

Don't try a sorc, it wont work. You deal almost no damage, and they get so annoyed with being frozen they team up to chase you down.

Edit: The big draw I see for HC is that you can collect ears for each of your kills, if you ever have winning characters duel, or something.

[EasyGijs]

oh was it a thorns paladin, I wasn't looking at the aura and just thought he also had holy fire. If I had known that I would have switched my vicious scepter away for naked punching with holy fire.

anyway: it was great fun!

[inSTAALed]

Actually we all agreed to team up on you BEFORE the FFA started. :P

/whisper is your friend ;)

We will try SC from now on and see how that goes.

We ended up deciding that shopping is much more fun so the basic rules will now be altered to include shopping.

No shopping may be used as a specialty game at a later time, though.

Speaking of specialty games, what are your thoughts on that idea?

After some more practice games we can iron out some skill restrictions.

Prayer wasn't completely unbeatable, we just didn't do a good job countering it.

Bone armor is nothing. With points in bone armor and nothing else a necro becomes useless, not to mention the mana cost of casting it.

Did cow king even use bone armor that last game?

[SiTro]

HC/SC shouldn't make a difference for winning characters etc. Even in softcore PvP your ear will drop if killed by another player.

What? Did you think that was grass you walked on in the Blood Moor? It's actually a carpet of all the ears dropped by my trapsin over time. Obviously humans in the world of Sanctuary have extremely good hearing.

[inSTAALed]

The point of having it HC to begin with was so that if you died before the duel, you were DQed.

We'll just have to go with what people prefer.

[Gambitsreturn]

Did cow king even use bone armor that last game?

Ya he did. I think prayer is beatable as well. I had one point into it from the scepter i was using and its nothing great unless you have decent mana, which would most likely result in less life. I was able to regenerate some hp while yall were chasing the sorc, but I was having to wait for my mana to recharge a lil before i could switch auras.

[Ashmer Amadeus]

Write me in. And maybe we can move this into twinked LLD to use all those awesome lvl 9 charms I have.

[inSTAALed]

Write me in. And maybe we can move this into twinked LLD to use all those awesome lvl 9 charms I have.


That would ruin the point, though.

People who have those awesome level 9 charms would have a huge advantage over other players (like me) who just restarted and have nothing.

[Ashmer Amadeus]

Honestly, how awesome is this:

Havoc Whorl
Jewel
Required Level: 9
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 80
Fingerprint: 0x44377f31
+18% Enhanced Damage
+7 to Minimum Damage
+6 Defense

Eagle Heart
Jewel
Required Level: 9
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0xcd969db1
+2 to Energy
+20% Enhanced Damage
+4 to Maximum Damage

Havoc Talisman
Jewel
Required Level: 9
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 25
Fingerprint: 0x5aa8d75f
+5 to Life
+18% Enhanced Damage
+1 to Minimum Damage
+4 to Maximum Damage

I fail to see how those three jewels in a mask at level 9 is going to make me any better then the rest of the field. I wonder though, could we possible do a side tourny for people like myself who might be able to afford the VLLD gear.

[The Cow King]

Actually, I... can't resist... /nitpick

Those jewels would end up ze horribles if stuck in a mask (although it would still eviscerate in untwinked no-town tourney).

56 ED
8 minimum damage
8 maximum damage

Since the helm would have ED/min/max, the ED bug would render the ED completely useless. So gib Havoc Whorl :wink3:

And Ashemer by all means join anyway! It's really fun :smiley: - the duels are hilarious.

I would definately like to see more LLD around here, but only after I get my gear somewhat ready :evil:

Also I think LLD at levels 18-30 is more exiting twinked. There are not so many builds available at level 9. That's why it so much cooler untwinked, it enables a crapload of builds that would be completely obsolete in a twinked environment.

[inSTAALed]

Someone else can host LLD's.

I'm sticking to this for now.

My old level 9 pk assassin on b.net did over 2k damage on the third tiger strike hit :D

[Ashmer Amadeus]

Someone else can host LLD's.

I'm sticking to this for now.

My old level 9 pk assassin on b.net did over 2k damage on the third tiger strike hit :D

Now I feel bad. Please see my post entitled Project K. At level 18 my TS sin did ~3400 damage I believe. I will be participating, even though its untwinked. Should be good times for all.

[inSTAALed]

Now I feel bad. Please see my post entitled Project K. At level 18 my TS sin did ~3400 damage I believe. I will be participating, even though its untwinked. Should be good times for all.

Yeah, not bad.

The thing is though, my assassin had perfect everything.

Perfect max damage jewels with level 9 req in helm armor shield and a flail.

Not to mention as many max damage lvl 9 req charms as I could fit in her inventory.

I would go into random games and challenge level 30-40 people to duels and one or two hit them.

Best part about it was it was all on HC. :thumbsup:

[Brak]

I can host a SC match if anyone's interested.
IP should be: 128.208.64.57
Let me know if there's connection trouble

EDIT: if that doesn't work try 10.0.64.24

[inSTAALed]

I can host a SC match if anyone's interested.
IP should be: 128.208.64.57
Let me know if there's connection trouble

EDIT: if that doesn't work try 10.0.64.24

Cannot connect.

[xduckster]

Neither of those are working for me Brak.

Edit: pwnt by instaaled :badteeth:

[Brak]

o well i guess the IT guys finally set up the firewall.

Sorry bout that.

[inSTAALed]

Neither of those are working for me Brak.

Edit: pwnt by instaaled :badteeth:

Trust me, that isn't the only pwning that will go down in this ironman league by my name. :jig:

[TouchOfInsanity]

Yeah, not bad.

The thing is though, my assassin had perfect everything.

Perfect max damage jewels with level 9 req in helm armor shield and a flail.

Not to mention as many max damage lvl 9 req charms as I could fit in her inventory.

I would go into random games and challenge level 30-40 people to duels and one or two hit them.

Best part about it was it was all on HC. :thumbsup:

With a Bug Rush, no?

[inSTAALed]

With a Bug Rush, no?

Just through norm ancients.

I needed to be able to see normal games.

[TouchOfInsanity]

Just through norm ancients.

I needed to be able to see normal games.
Ah, okay. Just making sure. My biggest problem with vLLDuelers was AR. But them and mid level duelers was by far my favorite.

[EasyGijs]

Don't we need more testing? :azn:

want to try out 34 more builds:tongue:

[zarfen]

I'm in for a testrun today :D

BTW: what builds have been tested so far? I'd like to contribute by testing something new

[Ikeren]

I am here except for the brief moment I need to get food.

[inSTAALed]

Anybody up for another practice one?

Hosting now:

24.148.238.238


-400th post

[Brak]

I can get there in 30-60 min.

[skoolbus]

You seriously need to learn how to host, thats twice now that you've left the game and stranded everyone. These should be done on bnet to eliminate this problem.

[stephan]

Just a host who doesn't exit when dead should be enough. It was SC this time though?

[inSTAALed]

Yeah, it was SC.

I didn't leave because I was dead, I left because it was 12:40 am and I had to wake up at 6 to go to work in the morning.

I even said that before I left the game.

[zarfen]

Imo if you host something like this you should keep it open :wink3:
I can host in a few hours possibly, but where I'm at right now the connection is very unstable, so I might disc randomly, causing the server t ocrash and ruin the point of this challenge

[inSTAALed]

Well, seeing as how it was only me, Brak and skoolbus I didn't see much point in keeping it open.

Plus they were about 4 levels behind me because they both went afk for like 10 minutes.

I dunno, I was just dead tired.

[Ikeren]

I think the best way to organize this would be for everyone to create a hotmail account if they don't have one already, and create a sub-section of MSN that says "Diablo 2 Ironman". Whenever there is a game minimum (Whatever we decide) on that is free for the 1-2 hours it takes, someone hosts, and runs a round.

Organizing it with forum posts seems...difficult, to co-ordinate times, unless we schedule quite some ways in advance.

[inSTAALed]

That could work, but why not use Gmail?

I was thinking to just have dates and times set aside every week that games would be up for each host and if you can make it to one of them, go for it.

Hosts can't join other host's games of course. That would be unfair. :)

[The Cow King]

Umm... I only check my mail if I know to expect a trade :hide:

On the other hand, I have these forums open constantly.

[Cattleya]

I've moved this to the MP forum.

(This thread is an odd duck, but it looks likes its evolved into of a way to organize games under a certain set of rules instead of an official tourney, so I think it belongs in the MP forum now.)

[inSTAALed]

Yeah, this is just getting setup for the real deal.

The actual league would be viable under the regular forum, though, correct?

[Cattleya]

The actual league would be viable under the regular forum, though, correct? If it's an actual tourney (like the Top of the Word PvP tourney) then yes. However, if it's just some place for people to get together for ironman duals, then it belong here.

[inSTAALed]

I'm planning on it being somewhat like the Top of the World tourney.

I'll just post the real thread in SPF once it's ready and then you can move it here if you feel it's more suited.

[The Cow King]

Anyone interested in a round or two? :wink2: I can host as well.

I've got about two hours and after that I can leave the game running.

[Glenstorm]

I'd be up for a round, as long as everyone doesn't gang up on me this time :)

[The Cow King]

Game up, good day for the crows...

88.113.76.109

[SC]

[Ikeren]

2 in game now, looking for a couple more.

[Ikeren]

In that round, we had a crow druid, a poison javazon, a barbarian of some sort, and myself, a sorc with 9 points in charged bolt.

[The Cow King]

New round starting, all welcome :wave:

Same IP. Game will be up in about 5 mins from this post.

[The Cow King]

Game down, thanks for coming everyone. At least I know what I'm not going to do :embarassed:

There was a really good suggestion that in the real tourney the final person to finish (coming to town) does not get to shop. This is to encourage the actual leveling. If you go for the Malus / Tower you might get lucky with some nice gear, but won't get to shop afterwards. If you build a slow PvM build then you have to live with it, or leech off others as they go.

Also should characters go to town immediately after reaching lvl 9? Are they allowed to pick anything up after hitting lvl 9?

[Ikeren]

Yeah, so apparently inferno sorcs suck. Whoda'thunkit?

[Glenstorm]

Our tests need more assassins, havent had any since the first one

[Ikeren]

I like assassins, I'll run a few of the builds next time.

What are the options; Kicksin, Tigerclawsin, Pheonix Strike + Something Else, trapsin of some sort, and shadow/melee?

[inSTAALed]

Sounds like you had fun. :P

My amazing build that shall not be named is going to destroy all of those. ;)

[SiTro]

Anyone up for a round? I can be around for a few hours or so and can host.

[The Cow King]

:undecided: missed it

Any info when the real tournament will begin?

[inSTAALed]

I'm currently in Atlanta so I've been sort of busy.

Whenever I can get the final rules ironed out (help welcome), the real league will begin.

[The Cow King]

Anyone up for a round? (I can host)


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As for the rules, this is one way to go about it.

- You die you DQ (SC)
- Absolutely no town visits before lvl 9
- No pots, wells, shrines or mercs
- You are allowed to shop after getting to lvl 9
- No town shop re-rolls (encourages to play to lvl 9 fast)
- You are not allowed to pick anything up after reaching lvl 9 and must go to town immediately
- Last person to reach lvl 9 does not get to shop (encourages to play to lvl 9 fast)

The reason why to encourage playing to lvl 9 fast is because this is both a PvM and PvP tournament. An excellent PvP char might have problems reaching lvl 9, while a not so good PvP build might be very efficient in the PvM part, getting better gear as a result. Also the faster the rounds the better.

Not allowing any town visits before lvl 9 (ID), makes it more important to choose what you carry more wisely.

[inSTAALed]

Good rules there Cow King.

All that's needed now is to work this into a league/tournament format.

:)

[zarfen]

Today maybe?
And what does DQ mean? Disqualify?

[zarfen]

Come one, noone wants a iron man mini battle today? :sad2:

[Brak]

Can't host but I'd be happy to join in

[the ANEURYSM]

no more interest in this? damn i would actually like to try it out. i dunno if i can host but i prolly could

[Joosh]

I'm definitely interested, and I can host... so if there's interest later today say in 4-5 hours PM me and I will host a mini Ironman :smile:, as I'd really like to try this.

Joosh :thumbsup:

[The Cow King]

Arf arf woof I'm in... just to wahck som1 with my Club!!! TREERRRORR