AmplifiedParty's ISO/FT [1.11b RRM/RWM] 14/06/07 [Archive]

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amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 11:55

dysgenics

14-06-2007, 13:11

i have everything in your ISO apart from my tal rashas amu isnt for trade, im interested in your Mentalist's grand charm of life, dungo's (i need another one), and if your reaper toll is etheral, im after that too..

how about these for your mentalist's and dungo's and trang's claws...

Tal Rasha's Guardianship
Lacquered Plate
Defense: 855
Durability: 43 of 55
Required Strength: 83
Required Level: 71
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x8daf045d
+400 Defense
Magic Damage Reduced by 15
Fire Resist +40%
Lightning Resist +40%
Cold Resist +40%
88% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
Requirements -60%

***Partial Set Item Bonuses***
10% Faster Cast Rate
***Partial Set Item Bonuses***

Andariel's Visage
Demonhead
Defense: 362
Durability: 18 of 20
Required Strength: 102
Required Level: 83
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x59a012c0
+30 to Strength
+134% Enhanced Defense
Fire Resist -30%
Poison Resist +70%
+10% to Maximum Poison Resist
9% Life stolen per hit
20% Increased Attack Speed
+2 to All Skill Levels
15% Chance to cast Level 15 Poison Nova when struck
Level 3 Venom (9/20 Charges)

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 13:27

Sure, i'll take those 2 for mentalist's and dungo's and trang's claws. Also, I do have an eth reaper's toll. How bout a spirit monarch and a oculus for those? If so, just send the items straight to my email :D

Heskla

14-06-2007, 13:31

I have a spirit monarch for you...
Intrested in ETH reapers toll...

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 13:32

Alright, but i'm not too sure if it's a fair trade for an ETH reapers for a spirit monarch. Care to add in an occy? Heh.

Heskla

14-06-2007, 13:38

Well, ofc I could add something. An oculus maybe, but I think I only got one... hmm, something else you are looking for? Fire/cold skillers?

You got ethereal Kelpie's?

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 14:12

Yeah, I do have an eth Kelpies too if you need. Dang, I really need that oculus. Eth Reapers for Oculus and Spirit Monarch? I could use an ETH Insight in any elite polearm.

Heskla

14-06-2007, 14:20

Well ok.
I have:
Spirit
Oculus (I quite sure I have one for you)
I can make good insight for ya

I like:
Eth Reapers
Eth Kelpie

Something more you need?

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 14:27

Naah I think that's about all I need. You can add in a good nagel if you want, if not then we'll call it a deal. Email me the items please :D

Heskla

14-06-2007, 14:40

I would gladly add a Nagelring. I would like to add something more, I believe thats more fair. Just tell me, any time...

kristian . wigander @ emfas . com

I can reply tonight, maybe tomorrow

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 14:52

Items sent :D

Heskla

14-06-2007, 14:57

Recieved, I reply ASAP...

What more ethereal items do you have? I'm a eth grail hunter. :wink:

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 15:06

I've an ETH Duskeep, Face of Horror, Venom Ward, Magefist, Humongous, Steeldriver, Bloodthief, Skewer of Krintiz, Griswold's Edge, Hellplague, Kinemil's Awl, Ripsaw, Thunderstroke, Chromatic Ire, Infernostride, Gore Rider, Marrowwalk, Nosferatu's Coil, Verdungo's Hearty Cord, Viperfork.

Thats all :D

dysgenics

14-06-2007, 15:48

Damn heskla, i now have an eternal grudge ageinst you for stealing that eth reaper's toll out of my grasp :badteeth:

to be honest amp, you should have kept it.. you will regret trading it =]

Stash sent. TFT

Heskla

14-06-2007, 16:00

Hmm, Since you can't tell more ISO I don't know what to offer. Sure you don't need anything? I'm really looking for ethereal items, and you have many. :wink2:
Perfect Gems maybe?

@dysgenics - Well, maybe it was bad manner. Am i forced to give you the reapers just to get rid of the grudge? :wink3:

Hmmm, AJK once brought a quote to us saying: "The first bird out get the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese." :hide:

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 16:00

Ahwells! Anyway, TFT!

Oh and btw, I hope I do that trade feedback thing correctly, heh. Would you mind doing the same for me? :D

@Heskla : Hmmm, okay maybe I could use some cold skillers. How many you got? And just name your price.

Heskla

14-06-2007, 16:19

I first have to check up which of those eth-items I need. Then make an offer. I think I still owe you some from the first trade.

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 16:24

Yeap, sure you do. Think you could email those stuffs over now? Heh, wanna get started with some more pindles as my sorc just hit 90 :D

dysgenics

14-06-2007, 16:34

I think I still owe you some from the first trade.

I'll say, I would have taken a bidding war way too far if it hadnt of been traded so quick :badteeth: been after an eth reapers for my kick assa for quite some time

what % was it heskla?

Heskla

14-06-2007, 16:35

I'm at work right now. I'll get home in 40 minutes... I'll send then. Hope that's ok.

@Dysgenics - 212% - Quite low I think..

Zhao_Yue

14-06-2007, 16:36

I agree, Eth Reapers is pretty valuable and even Eth Kelpie's has good worth too.

ATMA readouts please?

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 16:42

I'm at work right now. I'll get home in 40 minutes... I'll send then. Hope that's ok.

Yeah sure, i'll probably head off and watch 24 for awhile :D

Heskla

14-06-2007, 16:49

Kelpie Snare
Fuscina
Two-Hand Damage: 101 to 190
Durability: 18 of 18
Required Dexterity: 15
Required Strength: 67
Required Level: 33
Spear Class - Normal Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0xec845bf8
+10 to Strength
+155% Enhanced Damage
+30 to Minimum Damage
+50 to Maximum Damage
Fire Resist +50%
Slows Target by 75%
+1 to Life (Based on Character Level)
Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired)

The Reaper's Toll
Thresher
Two-Hand Damage: 56 to 658
Durability: 33 of 33
Required Dexterity: 79
Required Strength: 104
Required Level: 75
Polearm Class - Fast Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 87
Fingerprint: 0x37e2f021
+212% Enhanced Damage
Adds 4-44 cold damage over 1 seconds
15% Life stolen per hit
Requirements -25%
Ignore Target Defense
33% Deadly Strike
33% Chance to cast Level 1 Decrepify on striking
Ethereal (Cannot be Repaired)

Yes, lower then medium roll. Still I will add something to the next trade...

amplifiedparty

14-06-2007, 16:54

I would really want a Tal's ammy, heh.

kthiru66

15-06-2007, 03:21

Can I have the readouts for the Tomb Reaver? I have a tal's amulet.

amplifiedparty

15-06-2007, 04:46

Here is the tomb reaver.

Tomb Reaver
Cryptic Axe
Two-Hand Damage: 115 to 523
Durability: 39 of 65
Required Dexterity: 103
Required Strength: 165
Required Level: 84
Polearm Class - Fastest Attack Speed
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 86
Fingerprint: 0x7760bb89
+249% Enhanced Damage
All Resistances +34
77% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
+10 Life after each Kill
+4 to Light Radius
60% Increased Attack Speed
203% Damage to Undead
+343 to Attack Rating against Undead
10% Reanimate As: Returned
Socketed (3: 0 used)

kthiru66

15-06-2007, 05:45

Tal Rasha's Adjudication
Amulet
Required Level: 67
Unidentified
Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
Item Level: 88
Fingerprint: 0xf5c988d8
+50 to Life
+42 to Mana
Lightning Resist +33%
Adds 3-32 lightning damage
+2 to Sorceress Skill Levels

for the tomb reaver?

amplifiedparty

15-06-2007, 05:48

Sure, email me the tal's ammy :D

zarfen

15-06-2007, 12:03

oh, too bad, I wanted that reaver as well :/

edit: and the eth reapers as well O_o nice polearms going by without me noticeing

Cattleya

16-06-2007, 01:04

Amplifiedparty has been banned as he is a returned bannee (originally banned for using Maphack.)

If you traded with him, delete the items you got from him. I'll be sending out PMs shortly after I get a chance to go through his post history.

Head Jumper

16-06-2007, 02:48

Cattleya

16-06-2007, 03:05

ok, one short question: since you told them to delete items they got from him, that means the items that were actualy traded TO him are gone? Phew.. (sorry:P) If so, lucky you dysgenics..

edit: To precise q: Let's say i've got tyraels, and i trade it to someone for some great wealth, and you ban him, i can never see it again?

Pretty much. (There are lots of threads around discussion why this is, if you want more details and the search function doesn't help, you can PM me with any questions.)

I would also like to say that this is why you need to be careful about trading, especially with new people, and especially for higher end items. Personally, it really frustrates me to see so many people jumping on rarer items with someone with only a week or so on the forums. Hrus and I put in a lot of time trying to weed out the "bad guys" but it's still vital that everyone show some restraint in these matters if we are going to have a healthy trade community.

Nazdakka

16-06-2007, 03:20

Pretty much. (There are lots of threads around discussion why this is, if you want more details and the search function doesn't help, you can PM me with any questions.)

I would also like to say that this is why you need to be careful about trading, especially with new people, and especially for higher end items. Personally, it really frustrates me to see so many people jumping on rarer items with someone with only a week or so on the forums. Hrus and I put in a lot of time trying to weed out the "bad guys" but it's still vital that everyone show some restraint in these matters if we are going to have a healthy trade community.

Could you do a "really new trader's probation period" where people can't trade anything more valuable than (say) a Shako for a couple of weeks or so after they post their first Trader profile? Might be too much bookkeeping for you mods, but it might also help stop this sort of thing...

Cattleya

16-06-2007, 04:26

Could you do a "really new trader's probation period" where people can't trade anything more valuable than (say) a Shako for a couple of weeks or so after they post their first Trader profile? Might be too much bookkeeping for you mods, but it might also help stop this sort of thing...

Hrus and I have been discussing some things we can do that can stop some common problems without making things even more confusing for people.

I'm sure we could come up with a whole bunch of rules about this stuff, but at some point, traders have to take responsibility for themselves. Our rules as they stand are already pretty complicated as it is, and I don't see us adding in more tiers to NTPP as this would just make things worse. :wink3: (We would also probably see more trades go to PM to circumvent this, which makes the whole situation even worse, since we lose oversight on those trades.)

dysgenics

16-06-2007, 05:42

Cattleya

16-06-2007, 06:26

i still have the d2x file i sent him in a totally seperate folder, i dont delete them for a while just in case things like this happen. can i keep them, or do I have to delete them?

ive already deleted the items traded from amp.

You might want to read my post #32 again, since it pretty much answers the question here.

The individual you traded with still has your item. If you restore your backup, you have just created a dupe. That would be bad. :wink3:

dysgenics

16-06-2007, 07:57

ok, i've deleted all the backup files i have.. bit of a shame to just say bye to 2 nice items because of an ignorant member.. i have spare tal rashas armour, but andarial's visage is something i wont be finding for a while.

Ardo

16-06-2007, 10:46

I just want to mention here though, like it has been said somewhere around these forums. If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

@dysegenics
When I traded with someone, who had a duped item, I chose to do delete all my items and chars because of that. So consider yourself even lucky :smiley:

kthiru66

16-06-2007, 20:32

I justed logged in and found Cat's message regarding amplified. I haven't downloaded his .d2s file as I've yet to open my email. I'll delete his mail together with his item when I open my email.

Thanks for the tip off Cat,,,

dysgenics

17-06-2007, 02:10

Head Jumper

17-06-2007, 02:24

im not too bothered, the items i traded were in quarantine
wait.. so when 'tainted' item gets to you, you get yourself tainted, like everytime you trade something with someone (even not that stuff), get some extra crypted line in it's body? Like in fp, etc? Q is are items that were originaly in the stash also corrupted? Or chars wielding that items?

Cattleya

17-06-2007, 02:43

Taint is a philosophical concept, not anything you can actually physically see.

Basically, the idea goes something like this:

Person A uses Maphack. This makes the game a bit easier for them and gives them some advantages. (I'm using Maphack in this example, but it applies to duped items, hacked items, and other such stuff as well.) They find a nice item. Now, they put that item on a character that never used any other hacks or dupes. However, that one item was still obtained at an advantage, and now that advantage has been passed onto the new character. Now, everything they find with that character also got an advantage from the original hack, even though it was indirectly. Of course, this concept continues out and more and more stuff is getting affected.

When we find someone who has hacked, we do our best to clean up any tainted items, while not making it too hard on the innocent victim. Obviously, the items from the hacker and the items traded away to that person are always considered a loss. Whether or not anything else needs to be done is looked at on a case by case basis. (Many people choose to take some very extreme measures like deleting whole stashes and characters, because they no longer feel they are legit, even if the action is well beyond the minimum action decided upon to maintain the ability to trade and MP.)

Because of this, it's always a good idea to quarantine items that you get from others for a bit. The length of time the quarantine lasts will depend on how much you trust the person. That gives the hacker some time to mess up and get caught before you get a chance to taint any of your other stuff.

Edit: In this specific case, he was caught quickly, so there wasn't much of a chance for people to get horribly tainted, so it's pretty strait forward. Things get a lot uglier when someone isn't caught after they've been around a while. That's why you need to check up on your trade partner's post and trade history. If something feels off (or too good to be true) you need to carefully consider if you want to risk trading with them. You can also PM Hrus and I and we will take a closer look, but we obviously can't act on a simple "bad feeling."

Head Jumper

17-06-2007, 03:17

Well, that's what i thought, but what you are telling is that anyone can use maphack and don't get caught? like items found by those are still the same???
There aren't any differences at all???
[delete this post you think it potentates someone for it:P]

dysgenics

17-06-2007, 04:53

your basicly right headjumper, anyone can use maphack, but if you play SP even a little bit you will know you can save your map, so theres not much reason to use it - and using it in MP games would be a grave mistake. no matter what way you think of a person cheating in the spf, they will get found out easily. It's been discussed in alot of threads recently that if anyone is going to get away with cheating then they will need to know ALOT about game internals, and the thing about that is that if anyone did know that much about the game, then they would know they dont need to cheat.

Cattleya can probably give you more insight than me but thats basicly it.. and remember its up to ourself's to make sure we dont become 'tainted'.