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lookbehindyou
13-06-2007, 08:48
I was just wondering if any math genius' have done the math on rolling a skill charm with 45 life, skin wouldn't matter.

Its taking all the different possible numbers in the possible categories (prefix+suffix) and adding them together right ? :scratch:

Thanks for any replies in advance, lay my mind to rest please :jig:

FrankWest
13-06-2007, 10:33
I'm going to leave the exact math here to Orphan et al who know the statistics far better than I do, but I'll give two answers based on just straightforward math.

1) Infinitesimal.

2) Chance of a Baal GC becoming a skiller at all is roughly 1/30. Then from there you've got another increment for every point into FHR/Str/Dex/All elemental/physical damages/gold find and so on which can spawn on it. My ballpark guess? About 1 : 470 chance of any 45 life skiller.

And all of this is assuming that all of the mods have an equal chance of spawning. If life has a 25% better chance to spawn than strength as a secondary mod, then I'm even more wrong than I (assuredly) already would be otherwise.

lookbehindyou
13-06-2007, 10:53
ty for reply

1:470 doesnt seem to be that much really but your guess is as good if not better than mine. Dont know if all stats have same chances of spawning, I do know that when an item is rolled a categorie is chosen first then the number in it. That would mean you would have to hit 4 homeruns to get a run for your pgs :grin:

Not sure but think thats how it work.

Orphan
13-06-2007, 11:08
Assuming ilvl 91 or greater GC (since that's what you need for +45 life):

You have a 4/100 chance of getting "of Vita (+41-45)". You have 21/242 chance of getting any +1 skill tab.

The odds of getting a +1 skill tab, +45 life GC is 1:5761. This is taking into account the odds of actually rolling +45 on the +41-45 "of vita" suffix.


Note that the odds of getting any skiller on an ilvl 50 GC is only 1:43 (regardless of suffix). If you wanted any +life at that ilvl (up to +30), then it's 1:184, though remember you could also roll +5 to life.

krischan
13-06-2007, 11:33
You have 21/242 chance of getting any +1 skill tab.

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Note that the odds of getting any skiller on an ilvl 50 GC is only 1:43 (regardless of suffix)
Hmm, shouldn't the chances to get +skills become lower at higher ilvls because the affix selection becomes broader ? 21/242 is about 1:11...

I'm not sure about the exact numbers, so I won't speculate about what might be wrong here...

Orphan
13-06-2007, 11:57
Hmm, shouldn't the chances to get +skills become lower at higher ilvls because the affix selection becomes broader ? 21/242 is about 1:11...

I'm not sure about the exact numbers, so I won't speculate about what might be wrong here...

I didn't remove my chance of both suffix & prefix calc (which is irrelevant for just a skiller prefix). To get a skiller at an ilvl 50 GC you have a 21/230 chance or 1:10 chance. To get it plus a suffix you would have a 1:43 chance :wink3:

lookbehindyou
13-06-2007, 12:18
Great, you truly are a math wizard orphan. I get dizzy if I have to look at too many numbers :dizzy: Even though thats a pretty big number by estimate it may be worth it using the pgems if one kept at it, selling off the charms that had some value on the way.

thegiantturtle
13-06-2007, 15:39
I didn't remove my chance of both suffix & prefix calc (which is irrelevant for just a skiller prefix). To get a skiller at an ilvl 50 GC you have a 21/230 chance or 1:10 chance. To get it plus a suffix you would have a 1:43 chance :wink3:But there's only a 50% chance to get a prefix. You seem to have forgotten that.

lookbehindyou
13-06-2007, 16:44
Does that make it 1:2 x 1:5761 then ?

thegiantturtle
13-06-2007, 17:58
Does that make it 1:2 x 1:5761 then ?No, the 1:5761 chance took into account the 1/2 chance of a prefix and 3/4 chance of a suffix.

Orphan
13-06-2007, 23:20
But there's only a 50% chance to get a prefix. You seem to have forgotten that.

Heh, I'm on a roll. Wonder if I can get strike 3.

Alrighty, taking into account the 50% chance of getting only a prefix, you have a 1:21 chance of getting any skiller with an ilvl 50 GC.

krischan
14-06-2007, 10:07
1:21 sounds better, that's the number I had in my mind regarding +skills. :azn:

thegiantturtle
14-06-2007, 15:03
Heh, I'm on a roll. Wonder if I can get strike 3.

Alrighty, taking into account the 50% chance of getting only a prefix, you have a 1:21 chance of getting any skiller with an ilvl 50 GC.Since when do you round down 21.9 to 21? :tongue: