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Hajaj
13-06-2007, 08:17
Someone can help me with critical strike as skill with amazon on 1.11 it seems to be not workin. Only first time till i save and exit a game
runnin @ win2k

JME
13-06-2007, 15:36
Someone can help me with critical strike as skill with amazon on 1.11 it seems to be not workin. Only first time till i save and exit a game
runnin @ win2k

You do know there isn't exactly an animation or anything like that when you use the skill right? It is simply a chance to do double physical damage. Since you already have a range of damage on your weapon and other modifiers this may be a little difficult to notice but it does happen. If you are using something like strafe it will be very difficult to tell because the attacks happen so fast. Also, for a skill like LF this would only apply to the physical damage of the single javelin. I'm confused as to your statement of "only the first time till I save and exit."
Critical Strike (http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/amazon-passive.shtml#criticalstrike)

Hajaj
14-06-2007, 20:14
You do know there isn't exactly an animation or anything like that when you use the skill right? It is simply a chance to do double physical damage. Since you already have a range of damage on your weapon and other modifiers this may be a little difficult to notice but it does happen. If you are using something like strafe it will be very difficult to tell because the attacks happen so fast. Also, for a skill like LF this would only apply to the physical damage of the single javelin. I'm confused as to your statement of "only the first time till I save and exit."
Critical Strike (http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/amazon-passive.shtml#criticalstrike)

I am talkin about a little flash on enemy when it does double demage. I dont see it anymore. I tryed with a stupid sword in eq. and doin normal attacks. Not happens. I can say its not workin because if I use first skill point with new char, its workin and i see it as a little flash, i said. When I save and exit, then load that char, its not doin that flash anymore. And I dont kill some monsters on one hit, what i did only with critical strike...

JME
14-06-2007, 20:50
I am talkin about a little flash on enemy when it does double demage. I dont see it anymore. I tryed with a stupid sword in eq. and doin normal attacks. Not happens. I can say its not workin because if I use first skill point with new char, its workin and i see it as a little flash, i said. When I save and exit, then load that char, its not doin that flash anymore. And I dont kill some monsters on one hit, what i did only with critical strike...

Inner sight has "flashes" on the enemy. Unless I've been overlooking something for quite some time critical strike does not have any animation at all. As for it working, I've never had any problems with it.

NASE
14-06-2007, 21:04
critical does have a animation. Just as he described.

anyway, it seems like a very strange bug, reinstall perhaps? though I doubt that would help.

JME
14-06-2007, 21:27
critical does have a animation. Just as he described.

anyway, it seems like a very strange bug, reinstall perhaps? though I doubt that would help.

I suppose I've just never noticed it. Does it only display in melee range? I'm thinking no. I tried looking it up on the internet but didn't see any images or references to it. I suppose I'll have to toy with it when I get home.

Are you using SP or battlenet? After doing a bit more looking I've heard one reference that poison or elemental damage can possibly cancel the critical strike animation, which may explain my (and your) lack of seeing it. If you are certain that it isn't working, in spite of the lack of animation, a reinstall is likely the only solution.

FrankWest
15-06-2007, 03:10
I've had some issues where the critical strike animation doesn't display properly - but I've checked on it and I'm not the only one - and neither are you. But I assure you the affect of it is still applied. The damage calculates just fine, you just won't always see the animation.

JME
15-06-2007, 06:17
I've had some issues where the critical strike animation doesn't display properly - but I've checked on it and I'm not the only one - and neither are you. But I assure you the affect of it is still applied. The damage calculates just fine, you just won't always see the animation.

Well I'm definintely having some "display issues" and apparently always have because if critical strike has an animation I haven't seen it. I've been running around in the blood moor and other lower normal areas for over 30 minutes with nothing but a pair of javelins and critical strike and I haven't seen this animation yet. However, I can tell when it occasionally kicks in because they seem to drop faster. I do hope the OP realizes that the range of damage on his weapon may make him less likely to think it's working. i.e. If the damage is 1-6, a critical strike of 2 compared to 12 could be tricky to follow.

jimmah
15-06-2007, 10:32
The animation looks like this:

http://battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/skills/criticalstrike01.jpg

http://battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/skills/criticalstrike02.jpg

(You didn't check Arreat Summit? :P )

NASE
15-06-2007, 11:36
I tried looking it up on the internet but didn't see any images or references to it.

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?p=5484136#post5484136

JME
15-06-2007, 15:17
The animation looks like this:
http://battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/skills/criticalstrike01.jpg
http://battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/skills/criticalstrike02.jpg
(You didn't check Arreat Summit? :P )

Actually I did but my screen at work is a bit dark and dated and I completely missed those, thanks. I've definitely never seen that happen and zons are some of my favorite characters:undecided:

As for this: [http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?p=5484136#post5484136]http://forums.diabloii.net/showthrea...36#post5484136[/URL]

I'm wondering if you read the second half of my post or not. I'm thinking you skipped right over it: "After doing a bit more looking I've heard one reference that poison or elemental damage can possibly cancel the critical strike animation, which may explain my (and your) lack of seeing it." That's basically all I could come up with, some unsubstantiated reports that poison and or elemental damage could cancel out the animation of critical strike, not the actual effect. There has to be some reason to explain it because after playing several hours on both battlenet and SP specifically looking for it, I have yet to see this animation trigger. Since one of the zons was practically naked I'm going to have to say a big no to that as a reason anyway, at least for me. I never said "this is why" I merely said it "might" be a solution because, really at this point, we don't have a clue.

Regardless, this:
Well I'm definintely having some "display issues" and apparently always have because if critical strike has an animation I haven't seen it. I've been running around in the blood moor and other lower normal areas for over 30 minutes with nothing but a pair of javelins and critical strike and I haven't seen this animation yet. However, I can tell when it occasionally kicks in because they seem to drop faster. I do hope the OP realizes that the range of damage on his weapon may make him less likely to think it's working. i.e. If the damage is 1-6, a critical strike of 2 compared to 12 could be tricky to follow.
Still remains, except you can add about an hour and half to the time. I'm tired of looking for an animation I've never seen. As long as I'm sure it's working I'm happy.

As for the OP, if he's still sure it's not working, I'm sorry. Maybe someone else can find the solution to this if a reinstall doesn't work (and I don't see why it would). Good luck.

JME
15-06-2007, 15:19
The animation looks like this:
http://battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/skills/criticalstrike01.jpg
http://battle.net/images/battle/diablo2exp/images/skills/criticalstrike02.jpg
(You didn't check Arreat Summit? :P )

Actually I did but my screen at work is a bit dark and dated and I completely missed those, thanks. I've definitely never seen that happen and zons are some of my favorite characters:undecided:

As for this: http://forums.diabloii.net/showthrea...36#post5484136 (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthrea...36#post5484136)

I'm wondering if you read the second half of my post or not. I'm thinking you skipped right over it: "After doing a bit more looking I've heard one reference that poison or elemental damage can possibly cancel the critical strike animation, which may explain my (and your) lack of seeing it." That's basically all I could come up with, some unsubstantiated reports that poison and or elemental damage could cancel out the animation of critical strike, not the actual effect. There has to be some reason to explain it because after playing several hours on both battlenet and SP specifically looking for it, I have yet to see this animation trigger. Since one of the zons I was playing last night was practically naked I'm going to have to say a big no to that as a reason anyway, at least for me. I never said "this is why" I merely said it "might" be a solution because, really at this point, we don't have a clue.

Regardless, this:
Well I'm definintely having some "display issues" and apparently always have because if critical strike has an animation I haven't seen it. I've been running around in the blood moor and other lower normal areas for over 30 minutes with nothing but a pair of javelins and critical strike and I haven't seen this animation yet. However, I can tell when it occasionally kicks in because they seem to drop faster. I do hope the OP realizes that the range of damage on his weapon may make him less likely to think it's working. i.e. If the damage is 1-6, a critical strike of 2 compared to 12 could be tricky to follow.
Still remains, except you can add about an hour and half to the time. I'm tired of looking for an animation I've never seen. As long as I'm sure it's working I'm happy.

As for the OP, if he's still sure it's not working, I'm sorry. Maybe someone else can find the solution to this if a reinstall doesn't work (and I don't see why it would). Good luck.

NASE
15-06-2007, 17:06
@ JME: sorry, My mistake. You right, elemental damage will probably cancel the animation, as does crushing blow and the rest. There only displays one animation, I don't think critical is the highest one in order.
I always see it when I start a new amazon, that is the first skill I put points in. It is ever so useful and the lack of other damage sources then the your javelin makes is easy to see.


P.S. I'm afraid we'll never know why it doesn't work unless someone has had the same problem before. If reinstall doesn't work it might stay a problem. I recall someone having problem with barb masteries, he decided to stop making barbs...

JME
15-06-2007, 17:15
@ JME: sorry, My mistake. You right, elemental damage will probably cancel the animation, as does crushing blow and the rest. There only displays one animation, I don't think critical is the highest one in order.
I always see it when I start a new amazon, that is the first skill I put points in. It is ever so useful and the lack of other damage sources then the your javelin makes is easy to see.


P.S. I'm afraid we'll never know why it doesn't work unless someone has had the same problem before. If reinstall doesn't work it might stay a problem. I recall someone having problem with barb masteries, he decided to stop making barbs...

Honestly, I'm not sure what the deal is with my animation but as I mentioned before, I can tell that it has an effect so I'm not really worried about it. I've not really had any problems with skills while playing diablo, aside from the fact that some of them display incorrect descriptions and the typical bugs. I hope he won't resort to quit playing amazons. If nothing else, CS is a prereq for pierce and penetrate. Do you remember what the problem was with the barb mastery tree? I find it interesting the possible link that they are both passive in nature. The anya bug also comes to mind. Blizzard definitely did not do enough testing with passive skills/attributes.

I'm sort of hoping TGT, Orphan, or RTB may have heard something about this sort of issue before.

NASE
15-06-2007, 18:31
I think that when he added points to the masteries the damage (displayed by the lcs) was less while normally masteries add to the damage. Luckily.

JME
15-06-2007, 19:10
I think that when he added points to the masteries the damage (displayed by the lcs) was less while normally masteries add to the damage. Luckily.

Oh. Well, a small novel could be written on the inaccuracies of the LCS. I don't typically worry about display issues in this game anymore. Grief is a fine example.

thegiantturtle
15-06-2007, 19:40
I'm sort of hoping TGT, Orphan, or RTB may have heard something about this sort of issue before.I definitely remember people complaining that animations weren't occurring, and the result being the animations were being overwritten. I don't recall anything with the effects not occurring.

I also don't recall any issues with the masteries tree...Aside from pre-lod bugs with weapon masteries causing too much ed% and critical strike on each hit, I think the masteries tab is pretty clean.