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Bliphgar
13-06-2007, 02:42
Does anyone know the breakpoints for paladin skills (zeal, vengeance, normal attack) when used with bare fists?

Orphan
13-06-2007, 11:56
Normal attack & Vengeance:

EIAS - Frames - Action Frame
00% - 13 - 7
10% - 12 - 7
17% - 11 - 6
28% - 10 - 6
41% - 9 - 5
56% - 8 - 5
75% - 7 - 4

Action frame is when the actual hit will land and the game will do it's necessary to-hit & damage calculations. The whole animation will still go for the amount of frames listed though.

Zeal (let's see if I can calculate this right after all this time):

Edit2:
EIAS - Frames (First Hit, Followup Hits, Last Hit)
00% - 7/7/6
08% - 7/7/5
17% - 6/6/5
28% - 6/6/4
40% - 5/5/4
56% - 5/5/3
75% - 4/4/3


This is per zeal frame. So if your zeal has 3 attacks, and you had 75% EIAS, then the total frames would be:

4/4/3+4/4/3+4/4/3 = 4/4/7/4/7/4/3

To convert IAS to EIAS, simply run it through this equation:

(120*IAS)/(120+IAS)

Eg, 40% IAS = (120*40)/(120+40) = 4800/160 = 30% EIAS

This only applies to IAS granted by items. IAS granted by skills is already EIAS and you don't need to do any conversion.

Bliphgar
13-06-2007, 18:02
So I'd need around 100% IAS (not counting skills) to reach the last zeal breakpoint huh? Dunno if I can reach that... EDIT: Oh wait, that'd only be 54% EIAS, guess I'd have to use fanat to get there.

Thanks for the info :)

thegiantturtle
13-06-2007, 18:05
So I'd need around 100% IAS (not counting skills) to reach the last zeal breakpoint huh? Dunno if I can reach that...

Thanks for the info :)Actually, it's 200% IAS to get to 75% EIAS.

Bliphgar
13-06-2007, 18:45
Actually, it's 200% IAS to get to 75% EIAS.

Yeah I realized that : )

Guess I'll be using a weapon.

samithedood
14-06-2007, 00:58
wouldn't that mean by having onepoint in zeal seeing as for the fastest attack with a
5 zeal swing 4/4/4/4/3/4/4/4/4/3
2 zeal swing 4/3/4/3/4/3/4/3/4/3

obviouysly this is wrong is there some sort of delay of some sort? I gave noticed a pause in my zealers swing pattern.

SSoG
14-06-2007, 05:58
wouldn't that mean by having onepoint in zeal seeing as for the fastest attack with a
5 zeal swing 4/4/4/4/3/4/4/4/4/3
2 zeal swing 4/3/4/3/4/3/4/3/4/3

obviouysly this is wrong is there some sort of delay of some sort? I gave noticed a pause in my zealers swing pattern.

The last attack is added to the first attack in a zeal sequence (the last attack is actually a follow-up animation as the Paladin gets set the start the zeal cycle again).

5 zeal swing = 4/4/4/4/7
2 zeal swing = 4/7

samithedood
14-06-2007, 12:34
The last attack is added to the first attack in a zeal sequence (the last attack is actually a follow-up animation as the Paladin gets set the start the zeal cycle again).

5 zeal swing = 4/4/4/4/7
2 zeal swing = 4/7

ah cheers for straightning that out.