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Bioburg
12-06-2007, 21:52
Hi to all fellow D2-ers :smiley:

I have a hireling question.

I have a bone spear necro (with 8 skellies, 8 mages and 18 revived monsters) which is a real mana burner so I use an Act II prayer (because of the synergie bonus it has with meditation) merc with an Insight (duh...) normal scyth for low dmg so he will survive those oblivions a while longer.
I was thinking about a Dream eth bugged Bone Visage for these bonuses:
10% Chance To Cast Level 15 Confuse When Struck
Level 15 Holy Shock Aura When Equipped
+20-30% Faster Hit Recovery (varies)
Increase Maximum Life 5% (Helms Only)
All Resistances +5-20 (varies)
12-25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

but I'm not sure about the armour :undecided:

Bramble: If an oblivion knight casts Iron Maiden on me and a monster hits me while I have Thorns aura active. Will I be killed because of the physical dmg return from Thorns to the enemy?

Dragon: Good option for lightning effects and to stay clear from Iron Maiden from those oblivions????
20% Chance to Cast Level 18 Venom When Struck
12% Chance To Cast Level 15 Hydra On Striking
Level 14 Holy Fire Aura When Equipped
+5% To Maximum Lightning Resist

Which gear would you use for this necro? (it doesn't necessarely have to be 1 of the above ofc)

Your opinion will be greatly apreciated :flip:

Arkardo
12-06-2007, 22:27
An unsynergized level 15 Holy Shock and level 14 Holy Fire will barely scratch monsters. It's said (haven't tried yet) that even the stacked levels you get when equipping multiple Holy Fire/Shock without synergies/masteries is still not worth it.

I don't know if you did it intentional, but having Holy Fire/Shock on your merc will draw many monsters to him, so you might want to reconsider the Dream helm idea in case you find him dying all the time.

As for Bramble, I don't know the type of damage Iron Maiden does (I assume it's physical), but returned damage can't be returned again.

What I'd do is to get one of them cookie cutter Chains of Honor as an armor for your Merc (no Fortitude, that will increase his damage), for the massive resists and the +2 to skills. The other mods are great, too. As for the helm, you could use Delirium for the crowd control. Otherwise, Andariel's Visage is great, if you can get away with the fire resist penalty.

By the way, you can also use your Bone Skills for crowd control, as you've invested points in them for the synergies for Bone Spear and Spirit.

Bioburg
12-06-2007, 22:55
An unsynergized level 15 Holy Shock and level 14 Holy Fire will barely scratch monsters. It's said (haven't tried yet) that even the stacked levels you get when equipping multiple Holy Fire/Shock without synergies/masteries is still not worth it.

yes I know, but the lightning effects should look cool ^^. He won't be doing any dmg, he's just giving me life and mana.

I don't know if you did it intentional, but having Holy Fire/Shock on your merc will draw many monsters to him

didn't know he would become a magnet in that way, tnx :smiley:
(hmmm, thought it was funny to look at with venom, hydra's, confuse, holy fire, holy shield next to prayer and meditation)

As for Bramble, I don't know the type of damage Iron Maiden does (I assume it's physical), but returned damage can't be returned again.

Yep Physical. ok, so bramble is a nice option for an extra aura for the skellies, mages and revives. I'm planning to kill big D a lot so I like to be sure about not being killed by my own thorns aura when Iron Maiden is cast on me before I waste an Ohm and Sur rune.

Chains of Honor: yes, thought about it for the resists and 2 skills, but it has no special effects ^^
btw: +200% Damage To Demons, +100% Damage To Undead
Delirium: annoying little headbutting ..... (actually quite funny, but will his aura's stay active when he's an annoying little creep)
Andariel's Visage: I use this one mainly on my mercs with a 15% IAS/ 20+% fire res j00l ^^, but I'm not sure it's the right one for this merc. It is nice when wearing together with Bramble (+30% fr) tho.

By the way, you can also use your Bone Skills for crowd control, as you've invested points in them for the synergies for Bone Spear and Spirit. Yep, planning to do that :smiley:

Arkardo
12-06-2007, 23:09
yes I know, but the lightning effects should look cool ^^.

Can't deny that! ^^

didn't know he would become a magnet in that way, tnx :smiley:

Well, it's like this. Monsters get hurt by Holy Shock, so they attack your merc. Didn't know how serious you were about the magnet comment, so I'd thought I'd clear that up, just in case. :smiley:

(hmmm, thought it was funny to look at with venom, hydra's, confuse, holy fire, holy shield next to prayer and meditation)

I think you mean Shock, not Shield :wink3: . Anyway, yes, it looks very cool, but it's just not going to do that much for you.

Yep Physical. ok, so bramble is a nice option for an extra aura for the skellies, mages and revives. I'm planning to kill big D a lot so I like to be sure about not being killed by my own thorns aura when Iron Maiden is cast on me before I waste an Ohm and Sur rune.

Just like with the Dream helm, I'm not sure whether a level 15-21 Thorns aura would make a significant difference...

Chains of Honor: yes, thought about it for the resists and 2 skills, but it has no special effects ^^

Yeah, it's a boring piece of equipment. But it does get the job done! ^^

Delirium: annoying little headbutting ..... (actually quite funny, but will his aura's stay active when he's an annoying little creep)

Yeah, if I recall correctly, the only difference you'll see when you're a Delirium dude is that you can't use your active skills (please correct me if I'm wrong). In your merc's case, that would be his Jab attacks, but that doesn't mean squat..

Andariel's Visage: I use this one mainly on my mercs with a 15% IAS/ 20+% fire res j00l ^^, but I'm not sure it's the right one for this merc. It is nice when wearing together with Bramble (+30% fr) tho.

Maybe Guillame's Face (socketed with an Um/resist jewel/whatever) would be nice; the Crushing Blow damage will surely help and is unaffected by Iron Maiden. It's quite damn cheap as well, and who doesn't like cheap things?

EDIT: I've forgot to mention, but I'm not sure whether merc skills can give synergies to aura's from items. I wouldn't see why not, but mercs are subject to quite some obscure rules. I wouldn't know where to check whether it does or not, though...

EDIT2: You really seem to like equipment with special effects. Please don't let my advice take away that fun! :smiley:

stfrn
12-06-2007, 23:29
"I'm not sure whether merc skills can give synergies to aura's from items." -> yup, they do. Not like they have many skills tho.

Personally I like giving an act2 merc a hard hitting weapon, so then he can leach life... but then again in CS that doesn't help much.

If you use lotsa skellies and posion, bramble would be great armor for you... -psn resist and returned dmg for everyone!

Bioburg
12-06-2007, 23:48
Maybe Guillame's Face (socketed with an Um/resist jewel/whatever) would be nice; the Crushing Blow damage will surely help and is unaffected by Iron Maiden. It's quite damn cheap as well, and who doesn't like cheap things?

ahh another thing I was wondering about. The CB and Open wounds bit. So CB isn't affected by Iron Maiden. I was wondering about this since Physical Immunes aren't effected as much by CB as other monsters. Then I guess Open Wounds isn't effected by Iron Maiden either.
Perhaps Guillame's Face + Duress is nice as a cheap built for lvling up untill lvl 93 . I think the merc only needs about 15% allres then to be fully resisted.

EDIT: I've forgot to mention, but I'm not sure whether merc skills can give synergies to aura's from items. I wouldn't see why not, but mercs are subject to quite some obscure rules. I wouldn't know where to check whether it does or not, though...
Well I can confirm the Prayer and Meditation aura synergie since I get 25 life per interval on prayer aura alone and 50 life per interval with Insight equipped aswell :wink3:

hmmm, choices choices ^^

1. Dragon + Dream -> what a show, but will it last long?
2. Bramble + Andy -> should be pretty effective, but resists are lousy untill lvl 93.
3. CoH + Delirium -> nice show and probably lasts quite nicely
4. Shaftstop + Vamp Gaze or Shako -> safe and sound
5. Guillame's Face + Duress -> so he can do some dmg without dying by Iron Maiden but next to 36 other summons that won't be very spectecular I guess ^^

hmmm, I think the most expensive builds are the most funny, there goes my fortune :grin:

tnx for your input :wink3:

If you use lotsa skellies and posion, bramble would be great armor for you... -psn resist and returned dmg for everyone!

So Bramble and Andy perhaps with her lvl 15 poison nova ^^. It's hard to get nice poison dmg out of a headgear.
hmmm, why isn't there a nice Venom or Rabies headgear in this game :laugh:

stfrn
13-06-2007, 02:32
Hm, there was some debate on weither CB counted as physical or not... I think the conclusion was that it does return dmg(IM) but does not allow life leach, and does not work on PI. But I could be wrong. OW is like a physical version of posion, but it does a set amount of dmg based on the target. So it doesn't count for IM or life leech, and DOES work on PI. But they have to be hurt by something first, which is sort of a bug.

At some point when I am rich and bored, I plan to have a pally with an act3 merc, so I can have: defiance from exile, might from lastwish, thorns from bramble, redemption from pheonix, holyfire from dragon,shock from dream... 6 auras from runewords? And it might even be usefull!

Villesmerf
13-06-2007, 10:42
At some point when I am rich and bored, I plan to have a pally with an act3 merc, so I can have: defiance from exile, might from lastwish, thorns from bramble, redemption from pheonix, holyfire from dragon,shock from dream... 6 auras from runewords? And it might even be usefull!When you are rich and bored, make a 10 auras pally, it is possible :wink3:
Mercenary: 4 auras.
1. Holy Shock from Dream helmet
2. Holy Fire from Dragon armour
3. Holy Freeze from his own ;P
4. Conviction from Obedience in polearm to decrease monsters resists for above holy auras :cool:
Zealot:
5. Defiance from Exile shield
6. Might from Last Wish
7. Thorns from Bramble armor
8. Fanaticism from Heart of Wolverine charges in Wisp Projector ring. This aura is low and slightly different from paladin aura at the same level but -it works ^^
9. Concentration (Pride) or Meditation (Insight) or Sanctuary (Lawbringer) or Redemption (Phoenix). How it is possible? Take Metalgrid amu and cast Iron Golem on one of them. Golem will carry this aura!
10. In the end any (not used yet) aura from your own skills, depends on your needs. Vigor? Blessed Aim? Salvation? A lot of choices ;P