How is the DMG mod on Grief adds up ???

[DarkPlacebo]

does it add on the base dmg ?? i know its hidden, but, can someone kindly explain it to me ?

For e.g., Grief CB, does it add another 300+ on the base dmg ?

[NewForumBloke]

yes, the modifier adds to the min and max dmg of a wep. so add 300 to min dmg of the cb then the max, add them together, then divide by 2 and you get a very tight range of avg dmg

Bloke :smug:

[DarkPlacebo]

to clarify... if i make a Grief Decapitator, then that would be the 49-137, plus the +dmg from grief ? Im planning to make a Chargedin by the way, and it seems Grief is nice, but i dont know what wpn i should use,

[Darkflight]

to clarify... if i make a Grief Decapitator, then that would be the 49-137, plus the +dmg from grief ? Im planning to make a Chargedin by the way, and it seems Grief is nice, but i dont know what wpn i should use,

If you make a Gried in the Decapitator, and it rolls a perfect +400 damage, the damage of the Decapitator would be 449-537. That gives an avarage damage of 493. It doesn't show that damage on the base damage of the Decapitator or in the LCS though.

A perfect BOTD Thunder Maul would have a better avarage damage. Also, BOTD has better mods for a charger IMO.

[DarkPlacebo]

thats what i also think.... Thunder maul or War pike ? IMHO, a war pike looks cooler,... Lancelot Esque.. gogogo lance pally

[krischan]

FYI, Grief in a two-handed weapon will be worse than e.g. eth BotD or even Oath in nearly all respects, assuming it's made in an elite weapon.

[DarkPlacebo]

so, just stick a ebotd ? CB or WP or Thunder maul ?

[krischan]

I would go for a warpike. It deals just a tiny bit less damage than a thundermaul, but it has range 5 and the reqs are distributed on str and dex.

[PhatTrumpet]

I was under the impression that eDeath Decapitator was the way to go.

[DarkPlacebo]

i also heard that regarding the edeath decap

[PhatTrumpet]

perf non-sup eDeath Decap = 354-994 dmg (674 avg) with 40%DS @ lvl 80
perf non-sup eBotD TMaul = 245-1350 dmg (797.5 avg) with no DS
perf non-sup eBotD WarPike = 245-1335 dmg (790 avg) with no DS

Ignoring the effects of Crushing Blow and assuming an additional 45%DS from Gores + Highlord's, all other factors being the same (namely off-weapon %ed), the eDeath Decap does about 8% more damage on average than the eBotD TMaul. CB effects and the altered str bonus for maces would complicate things, but probably not enough to pull the maul ahead.

[DarkPlacebo]

correct me if im wrong, since the death has a high chance of DS and CB, coupled with gores, and higlords, i would be dealing double damage most of the time ?

why in a decapitator and not on a glorious axe ? thx alot for looking into this

[PhatTrumpet]

See for yourself:

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/elite/axes.shtml

[stfrn]

Hm, would someone use an Ogre Maul in place of a Thunder Maul for ebotd? Trying to decide what my eOM is worth ;)

[helvete]

Neither Ogre Mauls nor Thunder Mauls reach the last WW bp with 60% IAS so go for the big damage.

I'd use Glorious axe. One less average damage, but a lot less requirements, same speed, and better range than decapitator. Just a little harder to find one with the right amount of sockets.

[DarkPlacebo]

not ww, but charge....