Dracs or Bloodfist for PvP Smiter.

[RoseOfSharyn]

Im thinking that Bloodfists are better because they give 40 life, 10ias, and 30FHR.

What do you think?

[Camden]

I personally prefer bloodfists.

[tuvard]

Bloodfist for gm duels, if you dont use exile for bm, then go for dracs for LT

[Mythatic]

bloodfist, fhr/life is gg

[SicHalo]

yeah bloodfist i second cuz the lifetap you get from exiel should be enough + the neat fhr/life u get from bloodfist and the 10% ias

[tuvard]

yeah bloodfist i second cuz the lifetap you get from exiel should be enough + the neat fhr/life u get from bloodfist and the 10% ias

IF u use exile though, though exile is great, I prefer HoZ for the dmg and stuff

[Ouallada]

Bloodfists would be better for a smiter. The LT from dracs is good, but exile makes up for it in any case where LT isnt BM, or where duels are BM. Using bloodfists allows you to hit 86 fhr more easily with bloodfists/coa. The ias does not hurt either. The strength from dracs doesnt really help that much, as nigma + torch + anni + fcr/str + ammy already gives you a lot of strength, possibly enough to equip coa.

[Camden]

Why the **** does EVERYONE on this forum seem to think dracs are only useful for lifetap? That's like, the LAST reason they're useful

[Uncle_Mike]

Why the **** does EVERYONE on this forum seem to think dracs are only useful for lifetap? That's like, the LAST reason they're useful

Oh my.... "heck" triggered the word filter :evil:

Dracs are wonderful gloves btw :smiley:

[clairetay]

nobody suggested the ow lolx

[struikje]

It may seem stupid, but i allways found ik-gloves better then bloodfist, since you don't need the ias, and I get enough fhr from duress.

[Blastfighters]

It may seem stupid, but i allways found ik-gloves better then bloodfist, since you don't need the ias, and I get enough fhr from duress.

If u use Grief in ba u need ias

[superjayson]

BLOODFIST. You're already a smiter aka you have some of the biggest advantages over most classes. Real duelers dont need dracs's.

[akumaxxyz]

dracs + gore for sors its pretty useful againts bvcs,ww sins but hardly needed

[brascoop]

i'd go with ik gloves and belt, u get ias, str, and plenty of other great bonuses

but if i had to choose, i'd pick dracs over bloodfist, since dracs have 15str, LT, ow, and are prob draculas gloves!!! lol but the way i see it bloodfists=defensive bonuses and dracs=offensive bonuses

[Mythatic]

Dracs are only considered to be a choice if you are going against ES sorc builds where OW and Venom(grief) are needed, I still pick Venom from trangs over it.

OW works too slow, smite kills too fast, so why is OW needed?

[erians]

Why the **** does EVERYONE on this forum seem to think dracs are only useful for lifetap? That's like, the LAST reason they're useful

Dracs:
+90-120% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+10-15 To Strength (varies)
+5-10 Life After Each Kill (varies)
25% Chance of Open Wounds
7-10% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking

LT is the last reason they are useful for for a PvP smiter? So what mods are useful? The aawsome defence? Hardly, noone gets his deff from gloves o.O. The +10-15 Str? Yeah sure, a useful mod, but hardly reason enought to wear a pair of gloves. +5-10 Life per kill? Yay now i can...well..erm...no? 7-10% Life leech? Scince smite isnt affected by ll this mod is also useless. 25% OW, finally a decent mod ! This is the ONLY mod that is reason enught to wear them, and as a smiter you'll kill fast (most classes does, scince d2 has a 1-shot-1kill pvp system), so OW and other Damage Over Time effects are useless in most cases. The only situation you could use OW is vs ES sorcs, and even then the damage isn't really impressive, the Venom from Grief could be boosted by Trang gloves if you need DoTs, which would result in lower total dmg but dmg over 0.4 sec instead of 8 sec. Just be sure to equip the TO gloves before you proc Venom, this way venom gets the +25% psn damage bonus twice.

LT is the only reason these gloves are good, and only in PvM. In PvP people are gonna die fast as hell, Charge+2-5 smies kills most people. Scince you need ~20 hits to proc LP with dracs it will only be usefull in 10%-25% of ur fights, and you dont wanna rely on luck if you plan to win in PvP. Id use bloodfist all the way, or a pair of rare dual stat dual resist gloves. I used a dual resist 20% ias glove scince 10% from BF wasnt enought to get 6fps smite with a Greif BA with my gear. FHR isnt that important unless ur facing trappers anyway.

[kohlman]

I use bloodfists usually for the BO-able life, which can be 80 extra life and the open wounds can be made up for elsewhere if you really want the open wounds. the str is good but you can usually get away without the str bonus. FHR is important for most melee characters since they might be taking hits while getting in range. bloodfists are also cheaper, which gives them a bonus in my book. and if defense is what you want, just up them once or twice if you are on ladder (which unfortunately im not) to get a small bonus to defense.

[SmittySixTen]

20ias Blood Gloves with Str and and high Life ftw.

[erians]

I use bloodfists usually for the BO-able life, which can be 80 extra life and the open wounds can be made up for elsewhere if you really want the open wounds. the str is good but you can usually get away without the str bonus. FHR is important for most melee characters since they might be taking hits while getting in range. bloodfists are also cheaper, which gives them a bonus in my book. and if defense is what you want, just up them once or twice if you are on ladder (which unfortunately im not) to get a small bonus to defense.

Most melee classes take hits while getting into range, a smiter is however not one of those "most melee classes". Charge in unstoppable, so as soon as a caster/ranged attacker gets into screen a Vigor Charge brings you right up to him, and knocks him back. Then just smite away. Thanks to Desynch and charge FHR doesnt pay off enought egainst anything except for the MB spamming Trapper. I agree with SmittySixTen, a pair of crafted Blood Gloves with life, stats, resist & 10-20% IAS would be insane, but can take a lot of rolls before they turn out good. Dont bother with stats if you already have Maxblock & enought str to carry your gear, 1 str = 1% Enhanced damage so you might wanna get some str, but skip dex. Light & Cold resistance is worth stacking for pub duells, so a 20 Life, +X% Light & Cold ress, 0-20% IAS (with highlords you dont need any IAS to get 6 fps smite), +str and other good mods would be alot better than a BF for most duells. They also get CB which helps out alot in PvM if u care about that.

[mephiztophelez]

bloodfists/hoz for those all too rare GM pubby encounters switching to clegs[or]dracs/exile for when things head south.

clegs does nasty things to other smiters.