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WRcheza
30-05-2007, 04:31
ok...i know it's nigh impossible to find one of these...esp on uswest, but if i did have one...

and i decided to make a onehanded*gasp*pure fury wolf...would socketing it with ed/min or max dmg jewels compensate for using a lower damage weapon such as cfkoq or gris caddy? my intent is to reach 4fpa while maintaining max block and high life with less dex spent for blocking.

i know the style points would be off the charts...should i be touting a jmod around[which won't happen], but i was wondering if that was an option if i could find dr elsewhere.


or should i stick to the cookie cutter grief/ebotdz+ss build?


just your thoughts...


btw, this was inspired by a post in the uswest trade forum.

Kiba
30-05-2007, 04:33
Hmmmmm i really think that stormshield is a main staple for the 35% Damage reduction , even if you still do block as much with a Jmod you will be ripped to shreads with out the damage reduce when you are hit.

WRcheza
30-05-2007, 04:37
well, if i could find the dr elsewhere, would this be viable? i mean if i really think about it, i would have to sacrifice something...mainly life no matter what.


perhaps this is too much change, but coa+dungos+enigma could get me max easily, but i'd be missing out on skills, fhr, which would have to be made up in charms, taking away life.

what a conundrum. i just want to be able to make a high damaging one hander.

btw, kiba, gottmorder doesn't have max dr. he has only 15%. hahaha. but still, he holds his own.

Tor
30-05-2007, 06:48
Do i hear the good old clinking sound of shaftstop? :P

InDubiousBattle
30-05-2007, 07:44
Do i hear the good old clinking sound of shaftstop? :P

I was thinking more along the lines of 3 shaels and a ber, berber coa (27 dr needed) and fort with verdungos.
4 frame block, still very nice damage, interesting style ;)

p.s. I would like to duel gott so I can 1 fury him to his grave.

Jary
30-05-2007, 09:49
BTals! :thumbsup: lol

WRcheza
30-05-2007, 11:40
if that happens, you'd be the first, one and only

Summerfun
30-05-2007, 13:31
Just remember that ed/min-max Jewels are bugged, and dont work like they should in any other sockets than weapon.

So it would not be worth it.

inanefedaykin
30-05-2007, 20:30
31% dr coa + 15% dungos is good enough in my opinion.

WRcheza
30-05-2007, 20:54
i agree, fed.

but the chances of landing a 15dr 2os coa and a jmod are nil.
this is just a fantasy thread. haha

inanefedaykin
30-05-2007, 21:00
There's a 28/31 coa for trade on the east forums, I don't really trust the guy but hey, it's there.

WRcheza
30-05-2007, 21:06
unfortunately, i am west
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i could probably afford a 25+/31 coa, but the question still remains as to how i will acquire a jmod.

sigh.

inanefedaykin
30-05-2007, 21:18
They're all mass duped so even if you payed the absolutely massive price most people ask for jmods it's likely it'll poof.

WRcheza
30-05-2007, 21:20
yeah, i know. i guess i could get to cubing them. but 260000 or whatever looks so unattractive.

ugh.

inanefedaykin
30-05-2007, 21:23
I heard skymind was cubing a jmod.

Summerfun
30-05-2007, 21:41
Like i sayd Before, it would be useless with ed/max or min jewels in it.
It would not do much for your damage.

inanefedaykin
30-05-2007, 21:56
Ruby jewel of; Truth (7 fhr), Daring (9 dex), Virility (9 str), Hope (20 life), Freedom (-15 reqs).

Plenty of good secondary mods to the 40ed.

Summerfun
31-05-2007, 00:09
Thats true, but forget about max/min dmg. I would go for the 40/9dex
160ed/36Dex would be pretty good, just not sure i would take that over a SS:wink3:

WRcheza
31-05-2007, 00:46
summer, can you explain why min or max is bugged?

Summerfun
31-05-2007, 01:11
Im not 100% sure but its some thing like this:
If jewels with ed/max or min damage is socket in any other sockets than weapon then the ed simply dossent work.

Try searching the forums, i know it has been talked about many times here, maybe in the barb forum.


PS. This is why you never see anyone use 160/60max armors anymore.

inanefedaykin
31-05-2007, 01:12
An item with +min and %ed only contributes to the total minimum damage
An item with +max and %ed only contributes to the total maximum damage
That is for sure, this last statement I'm only 99% on, all the mods may simply ignore each other.
An item with both +min, +max and %ed works normally.

WRcheza
31-05-2007, 01:16
so for example...if my damage is 14787 and i socket my shield with a 37ed/15max jewel, my damage after all bonuses, will only be 14902?

inanefedaykin
31-05-2007, 01:32
Well, let's work with numbers that don't suck.

You have a weapon that does 50-100 damage and an armor with some open sockets.

Socket a jewel with 40ed and you do 70-140 damage = 105 average
Socket a jewel with 40ed and 15 max you do 50-161 = 105.5 average
Socket a jewel with 40ed and 15 min you do 91-100 = 95.5 average
Socket a jewel with 40ed and 15 min and max you do 91-161 = 126 average

WRcheza
31-05-2007, 01:46
oh, so the ed only affects whatever the suffix damage mod happens to be, right?

so ed/min would affect the overall min damage by the +dmg and then ed. instead of ed affecting both min and max?

why does this bug exist?

inanefedaykin
31-05-2007, 02:22
What's really weird is that it only exists when it's not on the weapon. A 40ed 15 max damage jewel in the weapon I described above would do 70-161. I edited the above post to reflect average damage.

TheBassman
31-05-2007, 02:51
I only run stormshield for DR and 0%DR vs. most smiters. I fair quite well anyways..

Summerfun
31-05-2007, 09:34
2 things.
Min dmg suffix is capped at +10

The bug still exist on jewels with ed/max and min.

On europe non ladder there are a dupped jewel "storm gyre" if i remember correctly, the stats are "30ED 7Min 18Max" and they are bugged too.