Summon-mancer MF'ing

[legionaryxx]

So... tell me. As far as speed/efficiency goes, is there an advantage to MF'ing with a necromancer over a sorceress? I've got a high-level sorc who can, obviously, MF the main bosses of Nightmare effortlessly. A NM Meph run takes about 3 minutes.

Barring the acquisition of ENIGMA, are there some situations where a summon-mancer can easily enter and MF where a sorceress cannot? I love the idea of a skeleton army destroying things, but I'm trying to get gear for a friend and myself so we can keep on going through Hell, which means efficiency is valued slightly higher than amusement (for the time being).

Thanks in advance :)

[magnusthescott]

a good summoner that is well controlled and versed in the use of his curses can solo anywhere and kill everything often verry safely, and as for teh enigma go the poor mans rout at 125k per full refil and put a najs puzzler on switch if your mfing you should easily recoup that in junk rares

[cynicalcat1]

my summoner can survive anywhere in the game including ubers.my usual mf route includes, pindle,nithlack,clear worldstone,baal,meph,countess,pits and cows in about 30 mins. the best part is if you get lag, your army keeps killing and protects you.:grin:

[kykle]

it is very ewasy to mf with summoner, and you die very rarely compared to just about any other biuld.. however, with so many summons, your teles will be pretty slow unless you have an amazing computer.. easier then a sorc, but slower

[Mikk0]

i havent reallyl found an area where summoner couldnt cut it. only places where i dont really like to be (iron maiden comes to mind)

my nec runs anything in the game depending on the feeling. sometimes only nilah/baal but sometimes everything..

he has ~350 mf and with cta/splendor swap around 400. i never swap gear for running so its always same vs ubers, vs baal etc :rolleyes:

[bmathew]

So... tell me. As far as speed/efficiency goes, is there an advantage to MF'ing with a necromancer over a sorceress? I've got a high-level sorc who can, obviously, MF the main bosses of Nightmare effortlessly. A NM Meph run takes about 3 minutes.

Barring the acquisition of ENIGMA, are there some situations where a summon-mancer can easily enter and MF where a sorceress cannot? I love the idea of a skeleton army destroying things, but I'm trying to get gear for a friend and myself so we can keep on going through Hell, which means efficiency is valued slightly higher than amusement (for the time being).


If you dont have teleport then definitely the sorc will outweigh the Necromancer due to time to reach the target alone. However, necromancers are much better Area runners (Pit , WSK) rather than Target killers (Mephisto) in my opinion. However couple that ability with some good gear and the teleport ability and you have one hell of a character.

Please do nto feel Im criticizing your sorc or anything . But my Necro without godly gear can do Meph must faster than 3 minutes If I recall right he now only takes about 42 seconds (Depends also on the mods on Bremm and Maffer). Ive heard of sorcs taking him down in much lesser time though. But I dont have teleport yet (I do but the charges are expensive, crafted ammy) . Since you value efficiency more I would say Sorc for Mephisto. But for character safety and fun Fishymancer all the way :) .

If you are Hardcore then definitey a necro.