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So I read some stickies... The only way to get these amulets is to either gamble with a lvl 86+ or kill diablo since he's the only lvl 90 creature in the whole game, right?
Also.. What are the chances of getting a random +2skill class prefix on an ilvl90 amulet?
So I read some stickies... The only way to get these amulets is to either gamble with a lvl 86+ or kill diablo since he's the only lvl 90 creature in the whole game, right?
Also.. What are the chances of getting a random +2skill class prefix on an ilvl90 amulet?
Well, me and Warlock gambled a buttload of ammies ... and got alot of +2's.
Except since a "short" while ... I have not get ANY +2 amulets.
Don't know if anyone can confirm something was changed in the gamble system ... but I have noticed this ... and I think so did Warlock ;)
Well, me and Warlock gambled a buttload of ammies ... and got alot of +2's.
Except since a "short" while ... I have not get ANY +2 amulets.
Don't know if anyone can confirm something was changed in the gamble system ... but I have noticed this ... and I think so did Warlock ;)
I did notice the same thing. But it COULD be bad luck...
My friend has a lvl 92 paladin. So once I'm full with gold 2.5mil stash + 850k holding myself. I let him gamble. We have gotten loads of +2 amulets...
But since 3weeks ago that changed... I let him gamble about 10x 3mil...
And we only gambled 1 rare +2amulet and maybe 2magical +2amulets.
Before every 3mil would at least contain 1 +2amulet...
Might be 2.25mil for stash volume btw, not sure. Wouldn't matter though
I currently gamble amulets with a lvl 91 char, 750k at a time, and I almost always get atleast one +2 amulet, magic or rare. I think yours is a case of some very bad luck.
WarlockCC
02-06-2007, 18:16
I currently gamble amulets with a lvl 91 char, 750k at a time, and I almost always get atleast one +2 amulet, magic or rare. I think yours is a case of some very bad luck.
When was the last time you tried, Sculpen, because we used to have that aswel. about 1 +2 amu per 500k. But that changed about 3 weeks ago.
Give it a go now and see what you get.
Perhaps it matters how many there already are on the realm. :)
Metalshredderr
02-06-2007, 22:14
Yea...and then you got those really lucky guys who gamble something like a +2 10 fcr din priz ammy on their first try:undecided:
-Tempus-
03-06-2007, 04:02
ages ago it use to be 86 to get a chance at a +2, my luck at that lev was so bad that i had to lev a char to 88 to start to get them again. i should have 4-5 mill on a few of my chars, i'll go see and if i do i'll gamble it on some amulets.
there is a link someplace where people said what they got for amuelts with different lev chars. from 86-92 if i recall.
-Tempus-
134 amulets 8,442,000 gold lev 88 scnl west
114 junk magic
12 rares (4 junk)
2 rare +2
3 magic +2
6 rare +1
5 magic +1
so at lev 88 i got a +2 every 27 tries or 1 every 1.7mill gold on avg.
-Tempus-
When was the last time you tried, Sculpen, because we used to have that aswel. about 1 +2 amu per 500k. But that changed about 3 weeks ago.
Give it a go now and see what you get.
Perhaps it matters how many there already are on the realm. :)This was within a week of today. However, my last 2 sets of 750k rendered not a single +2 amulet. These were both today. Yesterday I got a +2 pris amulet from a 750k gamble tho. Again, I think its just some wacky luck. :scratch:
fledgeling
04-06-2007, 00:46
I gambled around 2 million and didnt get a single rare hammer (for my LLD)
gambled another 2 million and got like 2 blue +1 amulets (level 87, perhaps too low)
I gambled around 2 million and didnt get a single rare hammer (for my LLD)
gambled another 2 million and got like 2 blue +1 amulets (level 87, perhaps too low)
For warhammers I'd use like a lvl 3x (or 2x even) to gamble those hammers.
At least, thats what I used for mine ;)
Gambled with 89 lv mf/gf barb and got 1 rare +2 and one magic +2 from 2.8 million... Useless stats thought... few +1 too but nothing that i would keep.
So basically did not see any change. Maybe was just lucky.
-Lorg
Yea...and then you got those really lucky guys who gamble something like a +2 10 fcr din priz ammy on their first try:undecided:
www.ninefrozentoes.net/myammy.jpg that was an early gamble when spini hit lvl 92...
sad to say, I haven't seen anything close to that since, and I've gambled untold millions with him...
Metalshredderr
05-06-2007, 13:28
www.ninefrozentoes.net/myammy.jpg that was an early gamble when spini hit lvl 92...
sad to say, I haven't seen anything close to that since, and I've gambled untold millions with him...
Wow that's really nice Rye, what's that worth in todays value? 5 sojs? Gf.
Btw, get on, same with Ray I gotta show you my new nate lol.
Wow that's really nice Rye, what's that worth in todays value? 5 sojs? Gf.
Btw, get on, same with Ray I gotta show you my new nate lol.
today's? I'd doubt it, but I got a peme 28x mart for it with decent AR, which I later traded.
with no twinking on it, and no rep, and no fcr, it didn't get much love in the trade window - but this was also back just before the duping went public (and patcheD), so it was an entirely different economy...
and I'm at work, won't e on until much later :grin:
Gambled ~3 million with my level 88 Paladin and got 2 junk +2 Amazon amulets, one magic, one rare. Also got a +1 Paladin, 10 FCR, 20 pris. Everything's fine :grin:
Must be bad luck then on my part ... mental note ... go GF some more ;)
Hawkreborn
07-06-2007, 05:20
i was thinking of making a goldfind barb, what equipment should i have, i think the belt is goldwrap?, and that is as far as i got
i was thinking of making a goldfind barb, what equipment should i have, i think the belt is goldwrap?, and that is as far as i got
Maybe u could check FAQ and study the mf/gf item list made by Tempus. It covers all u need to know about possible mf/gf items...
Also searching this forum 4 mf/gf barb u will find multiple threads about the said topic. Just be patient, sit down and search :shocked:
-Lorg
i was thinking of making a goldfind barb, what equipment should i have, i think the belt is goldwrap?, and that is as far as i got
add a tarn, chancies, and goldskin to that gear set up. angellic amy, two angellic rings, gtoes to help with killing for the crushing blow, and a pskull mart.
don't forget to put some skills in item find. you'll urk up roughly the same amount of gold as drops when you kill.
I however, find that with a traditional angie's armor, tri pazed hat, mf/rezzy boots, and mf rezzy gloves, that when I MF a couple of travincal runs, and sell the trash that falls (along with an occasional good rare drop) that I get plenty of gold in short order.
similarly, my mephy glitcher is perpetually near max gold capacity due to selling the stuff that isn't useful for me.
JEstevam
25-11-2007, 01:43
the iLvl of an ammy with +2 skills = 90
90 x 3/4 = 67.5 (lvl 67 req)
iLvl of ammys you can gamble = -5/+4 your character Lvl
lvl 86 will get an ammy with iLvl 1 out of 10 times
87 - 2 out of 10
88 - 3 out of 10
89 - 4 out of 10...
95 - 10 out of 10
so basically going from 86 to 87 doubles your chance,
87 to 88 = +50% chance,
88 to 89 = +33%,
89 to 90 = +25%,
90 to 91 = +20%,
91 to 92 = +16%,
92 to 93 = +14%
93 to 94 = +12%,
94 to 95 = +11%
JEstevam
11-12-2007, 15:34
I've read the following over and over (from 2 different pages on "The Arreat Summit")
Items generated for the gamble stock are -5 through +4 levels of your character's level with a minimum item level of 5. Note, this does not apply to level requirements often seen on items also known as required level. This applies only to the item level. This item level is never seen by the player in game and is used primarily in formulae that choose what affixes an item can get. Ancient armor has a quality level of 40, which means you can see it in the gambling screen at level 35. You will see it more often in the gambling screen when you are level 44 because at this point, you will always meet the required level.
Selecting Prefixes/Suffixes in Gambling
When selecting which Magic Prefixes/Suffixes are available to be Gambled, the level of the Magical Prefix/Suffix is checked against the randomly chosen value in the range of +6 Levels/-3 levels of your character's level. So a Magic item with a Prefix level of 90 would be available at Character Level 84. The chance of getting that item also becomes better at higher Character Levels.
I believe the -5/+4 just relates to at what lvl's certain types of items can be generated on the gambling screen. An amulet has a base item lvl of 1 (why you see ammys to gamble at lvl1.) But if you can see the item, than it's passed the -5/+4 test.
That must mean to see if an ammy can spawn +2 skills (ilvl = 90), you'd have to be lvl 84, with best results at 93+.
Can anyone confirm if I've got this down correct?
JEstevam
11-12-2007, 15:48
the iLvl of an ammy with +2 skills = 90
90 x 3/4 = 67.5 (lvl 67 req)
iLvl of ammys you can gamble = -3/+6 your character Lvl
lvl 84 will get an ammy that can be ilvl 90, 1 out of 10 times
85 - 2 out of 10
86 - 3 out of 10
87 - 4 out of 10...
93 - 10 out of 10
so basically going from 84 to 85 doubles your chance,
85 to 86 = +50% chance,
86 to 87 = +33.3%,
87 to 88 = +25%,
88 to 89 = +20%,
89 to 90 = +16.7%,
90 to 91 = +14.3%
91 to 92 = +12.5%,
92 to 93 = +11.1%
To make this simplier:
On average for every +2 ammy a lvl 84 gambles, the following would get:
85: 2
86: 3
87: 4
88: 5
89: 6
90: 7
91: 8
92: 9
93-99: 10
You gamble amulets with item level within 4 levels below your level, or 6 levels above your level, randomly. (-4/+6)
If you are level 84, you can get ilvl anywhere from 80 to 90, which includes a chance to gamble 2 skill amulets. Your chances of getting 2 skill amulets increases with the higher level you are, above 84.
i just gambled all my gold from my lvl 90 pallystash and belt full of gold). ALL junk. what am i doing wrong here? LOL.
JEstevam
17-12-2007, 07:36
my friend and I share a gold find barb and he gambles with his lvl 89 sorc, he tells me that he averages 2-3 +2 ammys per 3 million gold gambled. (this includes magicals)
how many people are in the room with him? does that even matter?
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