looking for gear advise bowzon vs ubers

[fallen angel of satan]

ok, so as I have said in a few posts I am wanting to take down the tristram 3 (and the pre req ubers duriel etc) and am looking for opinions on gear

I am going to be using guided arrow (max) I wanted to avoid strafe lock as it could well be deadly

1 point in multi

12points in d/e/a and 12 in critical

20valk
around 10 in decoy

firstly just want to see if that sounds about right :)

now onto the gear:

Bow: I have a 15/2/3 bow+xbow skills/345%ED Faith GMB - I like this :) I know there is an argument for windforce, but I want fanat and my merc will be act2

armor: for all except mephisto I will wear guardian Angel with an Um rune in - alot of their attacks are elemental so 90 all resists should help alot :)

for mephisto - I am thinking fortitude with 30all res, but importantly the assasin armor to get fade and then swap.

amulet: Cat's eye faster run walk and ias and dex :) other option is atmas but i dont want amp damage replaceing life tap

ring1: manald 7% to leach mana off the few mobs that I can - unsure if any at all in there.

ring2: ravenfrost

belt:Nos: 10%Ias :) possibly thinking verdungo's though depends on my helm.

gloves:Dracul's grasp for life tap

boots:Gore riders

Helm: I am unsure here, dont think I will be able to afford a legit ed/ias/life helm for along time :/, maybe face of horrers for mob flee, maybe kiar's for resist. I am completely undecided(many other options too) - help here plz

weapon swicth:CTA+Spirit(Yes I have alot of strength lol)

charms:Torch, Anni
resist all charms till I can hit 90 all resists in hell mode
then max damage/life charms
maybe passive skillers to make my valk more powerful?


Merc: Act2 normal defensive= defiance aura
weapon tomb reaver with 3xber=60% crushing blow, alot more effective on merc than ranged isnt it?(double I think)

eth upgraded guardian angel against all but mephisto. Chains of honor against mephisto(65all resists :)) - also possibly utalise fade on merc too if needed

eth upgraded gaze(Ber) OR CoA(Ber,Ber) - unsure here

As far as I can tell you can take them on 1 by 1 as long as you dont rush in. How does the above sound? I should have 90% all resists against all except mephisto, and at least 50 all resists against mephi. Merc should be looking at the same except hopefully 75 all resists against mephi - and 60% crushing chance.

I will have abit of open wounds that should hopefully counter their regen.

my main wonder is, do you think a merc could survive with that gear?

[NASE]

From what I know about uber trist, though I have never went there my self.

1. mercs die. simple as that, it the monsters don't kill then, then one of the bosses will. The bosses do huge damage to mercs, and the monsters are not really sissy themself.

2. Now that the merc is gone, what will prevent the monsters comming close to you. Do you think a valk and 10 point decoy can hold them off? I'm tempted to say no, certainly as the decoy's life is based on you life. I'm assuming the you life won't be sever al k. ctc flee or ctc confuse is important. though for this to work, you need to hit the monsters and not only the bosses, is guided arrow a good option considered this problem?

3. Has lillith been done already solo by a bowazon? Poison rips most valks in no seconds. Do you have special idea for her.

this seems like a normal uber gear bowazon, with some popular uber-trist gear additions. I don't see why that would work for you and not for the others, sorry.

P.S. not that I want to bring you down or anything, though I think we need more brilliant idea's, not just the same again.
please don't start nagging about my pessimism again, it's true isn't it?

[crawlingdeadman]

here's what i came up with (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=553186). it didnt work the first time through and i havent yet attempted the 2nd time. here's dave's thread (http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=374936)

@nase; once merc is gone you can do like everyone else that does trist; rely on life tap + fast attack to keep your bulb full.

[fallen angel of satan]

I am just looking for a challenge thats all, i dont have the patience to do some like dave did and go thru the game naked

and normal content just isnt a challnge, that leaves ubers

bowzon was my old fav char so thort i would give it a go :) (well, along with poisenmancer and throw barb :))

I play games to look for the impossible and then to go and try it, not to do the mundane

1. thats what Im not sure about with 90all res, 28%DR eth upgraded armor and defiance aura along with Bo, fanat combined with life tap that is 1 hell of a hard merc - but yes it may well just be 1shotted

2. yes this is the benefit of strafe but I am thinking more along the lines of a marathon rather than a sprint, a pala will just go there and spam the boss till dead ignoring the adds, I dont think that is possibly as Bowzon, this is where my experience lets me down, I am unsure how uber the adds are.

3. I am working on tactics for her :) hehe, not got them yet :( thinking along the lines of kiting up and down using valk as a temporary distraction, and chugging alot of mana pots

4. just because others have the gear doesnt mean that they can do it or cant do it. For example I was told throwing barbs sucked in pvp and bone necs and paladins were loads more powerful. Never heard those comments again when he was finished, only time you could kill him was when he ran out of javas, you just couldnt get close without landing on a java and dieing.

So not going to nag about pessimism I just want new feedback to help me try and achieve this task :) hehe

P.S. Dclone was no problem at all for my old bowzon back when I used to play when 1.10 just came out! lol, I recognise this is alot harder though

Crawl:Ye I read daves thread, seemed to be bad news, thats what made me decided to try it :) pointless doing what people have done before!

EDIT:Crawl nice post there, not read it all, seems like u werent doing bad against meph till diablo joined the party, unlucky aggroing as soon as you enter the portal, that really was bad news. you say your merc lasted quite a while too? and I dont think his gear matches what I have panned for mine If Im right.

my 1st impresion from your gear setup was speed though, you didnt have much IAS, btw on this point for the above setup to reach 8fpa I need 16%ias in my helm :(

[crawlingdeadman]

the thread i linked to was dave's journey into trist on another date, be sure to check it out if you havent.

[Flayed One]

I have a similar project myself. I just started playing on the realms only to get a bowazon running to see if my idea for ubering bowazon is right. gear:
GMB faith(I need easily achievable 2 fpa)
Draculs
Giant Skull(for knockback, crushing blow and 2 sockets of which 1 I intend to use for IAS jewel, and the second for 15% res all)

At least a 1200 hit points without BO
Fade prebuff

and most importantly - no D/A/E.
I bet this thing noone tried.

About half a year ago I made a singleplayer strafer using upped Lycanders + Dracs + no D/A/E, and she ended up tanking Hell listers pack. No wonder. With life tap and 3 frame attack she leeched wonderfully fast. She died sometimes though - when a few monsters attacked at the same time. She had "only" 900 life though.

Well... Im quite eager to see if it would work...

[ThatWasShockin]

Lilith is easy to take down with a bowa. Use bone prison on her from boots, amp her with lacerator, and shoot at her for a bit.

Maybe extremely fast attack isn't the way to go. I don't know if it would work with a zon, but maybe making a pdr build with life tap could work.

[Leohappy]

has anyone tried doing it with harmony and urdar revives ?

[Ric Magnum]

I did the ubers a couple times with my Bowa. The thing that helped me out the most was that I was wearing a delirium helm. The confuse curse really helped with crowd control. The minions wouldn't even bother attacking me, but instead would focus their attention on attacking each other. This left me free to assist my friend in destroying the Big 3 with ease.