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fartAttack
22-05-2007, 19:26
i've got my multi/strafe/GA zon (mainly multi) i've been working on, and i've got most of my equips pretty much set. now my attention has turned to charms. however, i'm not sure what charms would be best. i have a passive/magic GC, a bow/xbow GC, 12 FHR/13 Res all GC, 6 res all LC, and a bunch of other random life/single res charms. now, i plan on getting rid of the skiller GC's for more benificial SC's. what type of SC's would be the most benificial for my dmg range? i was thinking of carrying poison SC's and max/ar/life sc's. would they be worth carrying? oh, and i do want to try to get an anni, too, but i already know that'd be helpful.

NASE
22-05-2007, 20:09
max/ar/life or life/res. Skills are near to useless, as are FHR. The only thing you might want to add is frw, some like it, other just go with nice boots to offer this.

if you only want damage, max/ar/dex would be the best, though the dex is rather low, up to 2 I think.

P.S. with just one or two poison source, or open wounds you are fine. these things are not killers, they are just there to prevent monster heal. And with a good bow, even one poison sc will do the trick.

awilhelmscream
22-05-2007, 20:32
P.S. with just one or two poison source, or open wounds you are fine. these things are not killers, they are just there to prevent monster heal. And with a good bow, even one poison sc will do the trick.


Not everyone would agree with you in terms of that statement about poison only being used to prevent monster regen; I remember WrongdayJ commenting on this just a few days ago in this thread:
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=555296&page=2
I have to say that I agree with his view and would also encourage the OP to check out what J was saying in the above thread :thumbsup:

NASE
22-05-2007, 20:45
I'm sorry but wrongdayJ is wrong, at least for every bowazon I use.

Assuming you as a 8 fpa multi.
25 framse in 1, 150 in sec.
150 frames does 1000 poison damage where
8 frames does 53.333 poisons damage. I almost hit that much with one max meduim charm, using a crap all dex bowazon.

Poison = not done for a fast hitting char. If you want poison, I'd say, max out plague and poisons javalin and don't use any poison from gear. This way you can deal damage over time, the only way an amazon can do this without using openwounds.

It might work for WrongdayJ. It doesn't for me, and probably not for a lot of other people. If you kill fast, poison doesn't even have to do to damage.

awilhelmscream
22-05-2007, 20:51
I don't think you can maintain the line of thought that "just one or two" would be worthwhile then, if you feel that large amounts of poison damage are ineffective for anything, then how can you claim that small amounts are effective at all.
I find poison charms useful and you don't. I suppose that's all either of us can say.
OP: Two different view points and neither of them are going to kill you to give them a try, have fun! :laugh:

fartAttack
22-05-2007, 20:58
i went around and searched to see what's up with psn charms. well, let's just say i got confused. it sounds like a very good idea, but, i'm not sure how it would work. i think i'll just get one 100/6 to make up for a lack of open wounds and go with a bunch of max/ar/(life/dex) charms. thanks for the input guys. much apreciated.

HellPlayer
22-05-2007, 21:05
About one 100/6 if you want to not use any of these go for a 3max/ar/poison dmg, my bowie have one like 3/xx/25 and if Im not wrong 3/xx/50 are possible too.
HellPlayer

WrongdayJ
22-05-2007, 21:47
I'm sorry but wrongdayJ is wrong, at least for every bowazon I use. . .

. . .Poison = not done for a fast hitting char. If you want poison, I'd say, max out plague and poisons javalin and don't use any poison from gear. This way you can deal damage over time, the only way an amazon can do this without using openwounds.

It might work for WrongdayJ. It doesn't for me, and probably not for a lot of other people. If you kill fast, poison doesn't even have to do to damage.

I agree with you in so much as Poison augmentation is not for all character types. Fanatic Zealots and Strafers are good examples of builds that don't really benefit from the glories of poison. Fast hitters benefit more from 'other' damage types- like Crushing Blow, and Fire/Cold/Lightning.

Your playing style lends itself to very fast hitting, so I would have to agree with you that poison is probably not for you. I'll be the 1st to admit that not all builds or players are well suited to playing the Poison card.

Hyphy
22-05-2007, 22:37
if you pub,

use 3fr/w/10-11 tri res, 3/xx/3fr/w, 20/11's.

5/11's

that's for pubs u want to really hit 75res to all+ w/e res%+ you have. what im saying is you what all your res in gold cept psn.
but atleast 5kGA dmg. and thats physical dmg, not psn.
for ZvZ.

you want x10 3/xx/3's. or 3/20/5's.[3/20/5's don't spawn any more. they spawn as 3fr/w]
and x27/ 3/xx/20's.

the set up above is what i used for when i still had my zon.

YogiRat
22-05-2007, 22:38
It looks like a good time to post the Tao of Poison (http://www.diabloii.net/strategy/x-articles/taopoison.shtml) again. It's an oldie, but still a goodie IMO.

WrongdayJ
23-05-2007, 03:48
It looks like a good time to post the Tao of Poison (http://www.diabloii.net/strategy/x-articles/taopoison.shtml) again. It's an oldie, but still a goodie IMO.

I learned ALOT from this back when I first read it. . .although Blizzard has fixed the ranged attack bug (Bummer) since it was written. The info on Melee is spot on though. And it is for the reasons listed in this guide that I DO NOT recommend it for everyone.

*BUT*

That being said. . . folks who think that poison is a slow killer simply lack the patience it takes to use it to it's fullest effect. The beauty of this game is that it appeals to a wide range of players. Your average run of the mill fodder is dispatched quite nicely (and I might add- rapidly) with properly implemented poison augmentation and little else. It makes dealing with Lightning Enchanted enemies a breeze. Also, Poison + Cold damage= one of the best tandem killing pairs there is in the game . . .