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Kashano
18-05-2007, 22:44
Hi, I am planning on starting from scratch and was wondering if a summoner necromancer could MF for some gear or if it would be better to try and level up a sorc? I use to play a really fun summoner and meteorb sorc a long time ago (not really sure if those sorc' are even used anymore).
I
love summoner necros and having ginormous armies of skeletons steamrolling monsters down, so I'm hoping that it's possible for me to run any "noob" zones to try and find some gear. The only thing I remember about this game was MFing Meph on a sorc and I don't think I'd be able to do that with a necro. Any help is appreciated! TYIA

Edit: Another thing, any items I should stock up on that are worth anything at all to trade for? I remember chipped gems or P gems were worth some noob items.

DSnail
19-05-2007, 04:40
Chipped gems aren't worth anything anymore, but PGems are.

In regards to MFing - I find my summon necro best at running areas such as: The Pit, and WSK, but my Orb/TK sorc better at running Hell meph.

Kashano
19-05-2007, 05:33
Thanks for the tips, I'll keep it in mind. What would I be able to get for 40 Perfect gems, if you know?

Bjorgin
19-05-2007, 06:17
Thanks for the tips, I'll keep it in mind. What would I be able to get for 40 Perfect gems, if you know?

On east scl: 40 pgems= 1 High rune

Check the trade values forum for more information

Skelious
19-05-2007, 23:01
If you know how to play a summ you are better off items wise to start with that one, let the summ finance the rest of your chars or at least the sorc. Then from there you can build-up your items. It`s cheaper and quicker than most characters on a budget. On a side note i pretty much only use my summ for items, after i have found choice items for mf`ng

Kashano
19-05-2007, 23:48
Thanks again

earthrug
20-05-2007, 15:59
Go for it! Lots of fun MF'in in the pit with summoners.

niner
20-05-2007, 20:58
MF summoner to start?

Oh hell ya!

mephiztophelez
21-05-2007, 11:23
Edit: Another thing, any items I should stock up on that are worth anything at all to trade for? I remember chipped gems or P gems were worth some noob items.

a summoner is a great character to start with, no other build can solo hell baal naked.

with that in mind, good MF summoner gear includes low-end stuff like 4os armour stuffed with p-topaz, blade's of ali-baba, 3os helms full of ptopaz etc.

this late in the ladder season, all sorts of juicy uniques are relegated to the status of 'noob itamz', and can often be had for free, or a handful of pgems at most.

a nice magic/goldfind summoner kit might be:
helm: tarnhelm (1-4pgems, tops), socky with ptopaz if your keen.
armour: skullders ire, 4-ptopaz dusk shroud, Wealth (Lem + Ko + Tir)
weap: ali-baba (1-4pgems)
shield: homonculus (5-10pgems maybe), Rhyme necro head (shael + eth)
gloves: chancies or whatever rare you find
belt: goldwrap or whatever rare you find
ammy/rings: whatever rare you find
boots: wartravs, infernostrides or whatever rare you find
a lot of that stuff could come phree.

now, what to do with all the gold you collect? you can gamble with it (circlets are good) or you can trade it off. i've traded off 250k for a pgem on occasion. i've seen '1mil 4 hr' games too.

sirwhere
22-05-2007, 22:49
a summoner is a great character to start with, no other build can solo hell baal naked.

wrong. a passives only zon can do the same:rolleyes:

browse the amazon forum for details ^^

Mikk0
23-05-2007, 14:10
when i started in agein in 1.10 and agein in 1.11 i made an fishymancer (found from the gude sticky).

after i reached hell i mainly did this:

Pindle - free starting army from the dead bodys
Eldric - mostly easy pack, more army
Shenk - easy, lots of monsters (requires lil use of attract if you dont have teleport)

Pit - just an easy ride
River of Flame - another easy ride

then just collect enugh stuff (mainly pgs/low runes) to get your self and enigma and you can basicly do anything in the game :thumbsup:

Jormasteri
23-05-2007, 15:08
Well, how much stuff is enough to get Enigma, say... in a breast plate?
In pgems/lower runes?

Zarniwoop
23-05-2007, 15:33
You should be able to get a BP enigma for essentially the cost of the runes. Possibly less.

A hr = about 40 pgems on east right now.

Crafters value crafting runes highly.

Save all your nefs, rals, amns, spirit sets, etc etc etc and you'll find a decent deal.

Mikk0
23-05-2007, 17:38
Well, how much stuff is enough to get Enigma, say... in a breast plate?
In pgems/lower runes?

try makeing a PC thread on trade valuves forum.. i dont think non superior bp crap def enigma will be THAT expencive. you just have to find someone whos willing to sell one :grin:

Tivrames
24-05-2007, 15:56
This may be a silly question but how exactly does a summon necro solo act bosses like Baal? Skeles certainly don't dish out the damage in hell difficulty, even with amp damage, and with the act bosses there's no corpses around for Corpse Explosion. Am I missing something?

redbbq
24-05-2007, 17:26
This may be a silly question but how exactly does a summon necro solo act bosses like Baal? Skeles certainly don't dish out the damage in hell difficulty, even with amp damage, and with the act bosses there's no corpses around for Corpse Explosion. Am I missing something?


my skellies are at level 40-something. they do lots of damage each hit. plus aura from merc "might", and a polearm "concentration" and other crap.

If you are a naked summoner, then decripify usually does bosses in, it just takes some time. Baal just stands there and gets pounded while not moving.

Mad Mantis
24-05-2007, 22:46
Am I missing something?

CB. Give some to your merc and watch the health fall.