Viability of Wolfbarb vs DC and Ubertrist?

[TurgidLeafMan]

So I have an old wolfbarb that a friend of mine stripped and I was wondering if rebuilding him to tackle ubertrist or DC would work?

I used to use gris arm in pvp with shaels to reach max attack rate so this time I want a fast weapon and lots of crushing blow. I was thinking of using gris arm combined with duress or possibly something like beast/stormlash/stonecrusher for the cb combined with maybe forti or stone for the + def/vit attributes. Has anybody tried anything like this? What do you think? A viable build in ubertrist?

Regards

TLM

[Uvatha]

Oi,

My DC hunter is a wolfbarb.

Coh
Beast Maul
LoH
Gore riders
2x Bk
Metalgrid
arach
10x Masteries GC
Res jewel socketed on the hat
assorted sc: life, res, frh...

Skills are standard. Did not try him on ubers yet tho.

[TurgidLeafMan]

How does he work for you at the moment? Any good/bad points worth mentioning? Does the lack of shield hinder you? and what about the armour. Would duress not be a better choice?

[FrankWest]

The wolfbarb you described, as is (or was), would probably be just fine versus Pandemonium Diablo. But not in Uber Trist. Your resists would need to be stacked higher, you'd need a little more IAS, and your AR would be a little low. And you'd almost certainly need Dracs for Lifetap, which means you'd need to strip off anything else you might have with CtC, so LT isn't overridden.

I'm sure a wolfbarb would be viable in Uber Trist, but it'd be very difficult with this set-up. You'd probably have to recreate him to get his skill/stat distribution juuuussst right for his equipment.

[Cdnexpat]

If you are looking for maces with speed and CB your probaly looking at two handers, ribcracker, Ik Maul, or windhammer. I would recommend using the the fade trick for Uber trist.

[shuy]

Ubers heal too fast. Begin in tristram is easy but you will fight 2 hours with Baal, who still have thin red label of life. Althought it is possible IMO minimum dmg for tristram is 5K with a lot of DS and some OW. I think that you will have tie - nobody die :)

[NewForumBloke]

Well, if i was to take my wolfbarb to trist id prolly use a set up like this:

Wolfhowl Um'd or 15 res/ 7 fhr
Duress
Dracs
Griz Caddy/ Sheal'd Azure (maybe Ber'd)/ Greif pb could be good
Gores
String of Ears (preferably up'd)
Metal Grid
2x Ravens (probably)
Either SS w/ Um or Sanctuary

Buffed with Treachery for Fade
Charms with res/ High res torch/anni / some dmg charms too probably

I will say that for this, Life Mastery GC's wouldnt be too bad a pick to boost up the Natural Resist, as well as a little more ar/def/dmg. I think a wolfbarb would be just fine in tristram. I guess ill just rebuild on on ladder and give him a run through lol.

-BLoke :smug:

[Master Zap]

I've used my WolfBarb for organ running here on HC without any problems or hangups. He's not my first pick, but when I was running them, he was the char I had equipped at the time. I feel comfortable in saying with "uber-esq} style gear he'd be very viable

[Master Zap]

How does he work for you at the moment? Any good/bad points worth mentioning? Does the lack of shield hinder you? and what about the armour. Would duress not be a better choice?


I use Grief/ lastwish with Stormshield on my Wolfbarb, I keep a ebotd Ghost spear on switch (to have a high high damage range 5 attack)
the rest of my gear is pretty standard high end melee stuff. Coh I think is the best armor for the build. Your going to have very high rates or CB, DS and OW without needing Duress. COH's got the damage, str, dr, res, skills that make it superior to pretty much everything. I would not advocate going without a shield. This build lacks crowd control and has trouble with phy immunes. What I've done is unshifted in areas where their is im knights and simply bezerk (with that big spear ^^)

Without using any GC's or an anni
(or other ideal charms) I get 7.8K life , I was careful but did not agonize over a few extra points in things to make the char more flexable in gear choices. What I'm saying expect HUGE life.!

[TyMForTheStuff]

Nature Peace is very usefull too, the "prevent monster heal" is very important. The da*m ubbers heals a lot.

[NewForumBloke]

Your going to have very high rates or CB, DS and OW without needing Duress. COH's got the damage, str, dr, res, skills that make it superior to pretty much everything.

W/o the use of duress the only source of CB a wolfbarb would have would be gores... and imo a LW should never be used on a char that needs ias speed from their wep. CoH is a nice pvm armor, and its not a bad choice for a wolfbarb either. But w/o a source of CB of (imo) 40+% your going to have problems against the big bosses.

I completely forgot about natures peace having prevent monster heal on it, if you were to use that in place of a raven (not that you even need the raven since your attack speed wont slow when frozen) that would allow the use of griz caddy in which you would be attacking fast enough that i think you could get away with the cb on gores by itself (allowing you to wear CoH).

Im remakin a new wolfbarb soon, maybe ill run him through trist and ubers a few times. Find some hard evidence for myself and such lol.

-BLoke :smug:

[shuy]

Prevent monster heal does not work with ubers or does not work with ubers the same way as with another monsters. It is possible that they heal slower but Baal heaal for sure. OW helps you more then PMH.

[TarnishedHope]

I would say it's easy as long as you have enough CB, AR, stacked resist, and make sure the Ubbers don't all stack up on you at the same time.

My WW BvC, with some gear change, took out Baal, 1/3 through with Diablo, and then Meph, from reason, decided to stroll near me and double gank me to death. But overall, wolfbarb should be able to do it without much problem.

PMH does not work against Ubbers. OW is the new PMH. :D

[Gimmershred]

To prevent ubers healing a simple source of poison like for example a sc will do. Although it isn't much use if you got venom on. If you lack so much cb then maybe a 2shael/2ber gris caddy is an option, it still reaches 5 fpa or so with feral rage?