dual doom switch question

[Chub]

How effective is this combo against chars like bowazons and smiters? Considering almost every pvp char has at least 1 ravenfrost equipped at all times, I don't see this being very effective.

Unless ravenfrost doesn't affect holy freeze?

Sorry, I just don't see the point of dual doomz when nobody can be frozen.

Oh, and why 2 instead of just 1? Pulses more frequently? Do the 12 from each weapon stack to give 24? And how do you use it? Switch to just flash the aura?

[Ce Olba]

How effective is this combo against chars like bowazons and smiters? Considering almost every pvp char has at least 1 ravenfrost equipped at all times, I don't see this being very effective.

Unless ravenfrost doesn't affect holy freeze?

The slowing effect of Holy Freeze is Slows Target by X%, not the cold.

Sorry, I just don't see the point of dual doomz when nobody can be frozen.

A lot of things:
I You only lose 2 skills (which means pretty much nothing)
II You gain a switch that allows you to kill on both swaps (please try killing people with 2 bo daggers or 2 hotos)
III You gain -80 - 120 Cold resistances, which is fun
IV Holy Freeze

What other swaps could you use? 2 Hotos? Why? For the FCR? Doesn't help for ****s except make your warcies (all 4), 0.16 seconds faster. Hoto + CTA? The life increase is minimal and most definately not worth it.

The only two worthwhile options for Bo swaps are dual Dooms and dual Bo daggers with Life Tap charges. Now, take a guess which can be found faster?

[Chub]

Awesome, thanks for clearing everything up for me, yet again.

I might just stop posting my barb related questions on the forums and just send you direct pm's from now on if you don't mind =).

Thanks again olba.

[Hulkcore]

If you're using nigma, hoto's are nice for +skills and fcr for tele, not just warcries. And they're cheaper if you go for a pair of 30res ones. If you don't use nigma than they're no better than echoing weapons.

[RazCotton]

Kind of OT but which is better.

Widow or Dual Doomz? considering i usually only use doomz when people are only down to like 1 life...with the exception of smiters n amas.

[Mythatic]

Widow is to force opponent to play offensive, Dual Dooms are either finisher, killing off minions (oak/wolfs), make pallys hard to desynch, or kill zons alot more easier.

Keep Both set ups, they are both situational

[Ce Olba]

If you're using nigma, hoto's are nice for +skills and fcr for tele, not just warcries. And they're cheaper if you go for a pair of 30res ones. If you don't use nigma than they're no better than echoing weapons.

The FCR is useless, since if you use it to teleport, you will end up hitting with the Hotos a lot, which in turn makes your damage over time crap.

And the +skills mean nothing since the same amount can be added to your warcries via almost anything.

[Hulkcore]

I don't know what you're trying to say by the first statement. That you'll end up trying to kill things with hotos? That has never been a problem for me at all. I guess I can just see that I'm holding flails and not axes....

[Amaruak]

HF is not affected by CBF.

Dual doom flashs are good for finishing ppl who have bled out or are on low life.. you can also get rid of druid summons with the flashs.

Widow is nice to have as well, esp vs annoying hdins.

Keep both and see what you prefer.

[TheBe]

I use dual dooms on switch and they are great. You get good life with them and you are still able to kill with them (+ holy freeze aura).

And I use widow only against hammerdins, cause I've never needed it against other ones.