Fanatic Bowadin?

[jesseloessin]

This sounds very wierd, but im thinking of making a Bowadin with 20 to fanaticism and vengance. Pretty weird, huh :) ! What do you guys think of it? Would it be viable in Hell?

P.S - Does vengance work with bows?

[struikje]

doubt that vengeance will be possible on a bow.
I find it a fun idea to start with, but think it will be very hard.
what other skills are u planning on taking? since u can't be using any combat skills, i think u got a few options. medic will be very party friendly, or u can get couple of offensive aura's to switch fast between them ( thinking of the trick with getting conv on the monsters, and quick switch to like holy shock (synergised) and do some cool dmg? don't really know if it works on classic, but i've seen a few zealots do it on lod, so u could give it a try.

btw, if vengeance would work on a bow, my suggestion would be to deffinetaly have conviction aura, rather than fana

[fledgeling]

the sad part is that vengeance does not work with bows

at least that's what I was told here, when I wanted to make one

however I will try one anyway, either with sanctuary, or with fanaticism

[PhatTrumpet]

I'd probably go with Fanat as your main aura and a synergized Holy Shock as a backup, although your AR may suffer with Holy Shock on. Doesn't Blessed Aim give you a passive 5% AR boost per point invested? If so that'd be a good way to up your AR.

[nickedoff]

I'd use Holyshock, Holyfire or Holyfreeze if I were you.

[Birgitte]

I tried making a physical damage Ranger moment ago; he had 20 blessed aim, and 20 fanatism; then i wasted some 10 skillpoints on sanctuary before I learned it works only with melee weapons.

There are two problems with this bulid. First, even with maximal fatatism and biggest gothic bow I could find, damage was not that impressive. He can solo nightmare CS in few players game, but it goes very slowly, like Rouges in D1 - engage one/two monsters, retreat, kill them, move few steps ahead, engage one/two monsters etc. I would not dare taking him to hell. Second, after maxing blessed aim / fanatism there are no more skills to develop. You can go for holy freeze or shock, but these work best with specific bows, and high physical damage bows are bit too slow for them. Vengance and mentioned sanctuary give bonus damage to melee attacks only, so there are no useful skills to finish the bulid. After level 40-50 you are set.

It's a hell of fun to run around in nightmare with one, through.

[Beltyn]

Go fana for main bonus then go synergized holy bolt/FoH as undead killer perhaps?

At least then you have capabilities of being one meaty undead killer.

[zrk]

Realistically speaking you can get 700 average damage with a good gothic bow which is quite little considering that even a completely untwinked elelental ranger can get 2000. You can complete hell with the physical damage build but its in no terms even a mediocre build, its one of the "toughies" like melee necros and spearzons.

[bojddo]

I thought about starting one of these as well... the only thing I could think of to make this viable was to go glass cannon (pump dex, not vit) and to get some cb or ow

gluck! tell us how it goes.

[Fearlessone]

It's a hell of fun to run around in nightmare with one, through.

Bowazons still love to be around any kind of pally with fan aura. In most games now, there are concentration pallys, so damage can be a bit better. Look for a game with an amping necro, thats about the only combination u can realistically get to not suck. Another way is finding an enchantress, maybe one who just comes and goes into the game. An enchantress wont help much in hell cs games, 2/3 of monsters are fire immune, so look for amp there, or specialize.

< There should be roving enchantresses coming and going in and out of games charging for their services, since actually playing them is too hard for most >

Historical note: melee amping necros and rangers (bowadins) used to be quite possible here in classic, until Oct. 28th, 2003. They were a bit slow to kill some of the weaker monsters, and harder still to get the high life ones. (Now, they can only kill the weaker ones with any pleasure.)

You cant use vengeance, and u can't convert while wielding a bow. Bows are just not melee weapons.

Dream Parties Revealed: Its an odd thing that my bow-wielding enchantress who plays in those fire immune cs hellwalks is superior to any bowazon. She can actually enchant the bowazon to kill oblivions and storm casters and Diablo, and enchant barbs and golems. And this sorc is superior to pally rangers in hell cs, unless she enchants the ranger. It's all sort of confusing. In the river, where there arent any fire immunes, she is great, esp with all that explosive splash damage to adjacent monsters. Now, just imagine a RavenClaw enchantress playing next to a fan pally, now there is fast damage! Once in a great while an foh'er with conviction will come along, and its a wipeout....