err how is my BVC looking?

[fatboyyy]

http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledcp3.jpg

Still need most of my skill quests, 2 Lan Esems, 2 Anyas.

20 WW
20 BO
20 Axe Mastery
~14 Leap
3 Inc Speed
5 Nat Resists
1 in preqreqs

Gear:
36/15 Arreats
Highlord's Wrath
38/380 Griefz and 266/36 Beastz
BP Enigma
Trang Oul's Gloves
Raven Frost
Rare FCR ring
35/10 Verdungos
Gore Riders

Stashed:
Hel'd Widowmaker
8/14 Dracs
Arachnid Mesh
Doomz w/SS (plan on getting another Doomz)

Charms:
Barb torch, Anni, various charms (some FHR scs, 3/20 lc, dex sc, etc).

Am I missing anything vital? I know I have pretty low life (aiming for ~6.5k) but I'm gonna xfer a bunch of 15-20 life scs from my din. Also in PVP, I shouldn't expect to kill casters in 1 hit right? Thanks!

[Ce Olba]

Gear:
36/15 Arreats
Highlord's Wrath
38/380 Griefz and 266/36 Beastz
BP Enigma
Trang Oul's Gloves
Raven Frost
Rare FCR ring
35/10 Verdungos
Gore Riders

Argh. Two things: 30% FCR won't get you to a new breakpoint, either use 20% or 40%. And never, ever use things like ravenfrost+fcr ring, it just doesn't cut through. Use two ravenfrosts and arachnid instead, you won't need the PDR% if you get a CoA.

Stashed:
Hel'd Widowmaker
8/14 Dracs
Arachnid Mesh
Doomz w/SS (plan on getting another Doomz)

Why the SS? Don't do stupidities like that, you won't have more than 70% block and that's if your character is right next to perfect anyways.

Also in PVP, I shouldn't expect to kill casters in 1 hit right? Thanks!

If you were to expect to kill casters in 1 hit, you would either assume they have 500 life and max PDR or 1000 life and no PDR, so no, they won't die in 1 hit

One of the key things you are missing is 40% FCR in your pubsetup. You have to get a CoA or you are right about a nice toast for a Windy.

Also, using a BP Enigma results quite low defense. You should at least try and have a Dusk shroud.

Oh, and your resistances are extremely low. I assume those are with Anyas. If so, then you are quite screwed.

[fatboyyy]

I guess I should've put arach mesh as my main belt, I'm just too lazy to xfer it over yet :P

Regarding the BP enigma, I thought it doesn't matter about defense as a BVC?

[DIEnamic]

I guess I should've put arach mesh as my main belt, I'm just too lazy to xfer it over yet :P

Regarding the BP enigma, I thought it doesn't matter about defense as a BVC?

bvc isn't a lazy mans character. however putting time and effort into making a good bvc is worth your while if you enjoy the statistical aspect of pvp.

like Ce Olba mentioned, you are missing the all important 40% fcr.

defense shouldn't be your biggest concern. however, depending your stat setup, you should have no problem wearing a dusk shroud or at the very least a mage plate. collectively, every little intangible makes for a well balanced bvc.

as far as your build is concerned, it could probably use more resist. even after your two remaining anya quests, your resistances are dangerously low for a bvc. perhaps drop ~4 points into natural res.

regarding your gear, I am going to go out on a limb and say you don't have a 2os CoA sitting around. so keeping your stormshield handy can help you vs windy druids to make the 50% dr cap.

and you can certainly help by transfering a few more items over;

arach
another fcr ring (preferably one with res, mana)
tri res boots (stay away from duped)
a second ravenfrost
four 5% fhr charms to hit 48% breakpoint.
demon limb
life/resist scs (worst case scenario, plain res or plain life charms.)
treachery armor (unless you dont believe in prebuff)

finally, some other key things you may want to consider is crafting a nice blood belt and the obvious second doomz. It is safe to assume your anni and torch are very low resist so you may need to upgrade them sometime. also consider leveling to at least 90 for the boosted OW as well.

[fatboyyy]

ah thanks, thought i needed some new gear. Those tri res boots seem real expensive though :\

The one big concern I have though is my life, I've heard that BVCs should aim for ~6k. Right now, I have 4.7k. Including 6 future level ups and a tome quest, my vitality will be around 455. Not big enough of a deal to remake though right?

[DIEnamic]

actually I found my tri res while baaling. people tend to leave rare boots just laying on the floor for grabs. they aren't as rare as people make them out to be.

ideally you would reach 6k'ish life. but thats with a inventory full of 17-20 life scs (normally with secondary mods). of course having more life is always important but the charms can be very expensive.

[Ce Olba]

ah thanks, thought i needed some new gear. Those tri res boots seem real expensive though :\

The one big concern I have though is my life, I've heard that BVCs should aim for ~6k. Right now, I have 4.7k. Including 6 future level ups and a tome quest, my vitality will be around 455. Not big enough of a deal to remake though right?

6 + 82 -> 88. And that's not enough. 90 is the absolute minimum.

455 vitality means 4971 life with no +life from charms. With +400 from charms, you would have 5927.

Also, the defense on your armor is not a HUGE concern, just that it's useful. Heck, my BvC uses a Scarab Husk Enigma (str required 95) just because I think it looks good. My BvC could use any Archon armor even if he had nothing else on him but torch and anni.

as far as your build is concerned, it could probably use more resist. even after your two remaining anya quests, your resistances are dangerously low for a bvc. perhaps drop ~4 points into natural res.

Nat res won't solve the problem. The best it's going to give is ~64 all resistances. Those 4 points would at best give 5 all resistances. Not worth it. Use some life/resistance charms instead.

[DIEnamic]

imo, 64 all resistances is a good trade for 9 skill points. even if it comes down to a 4 pts for 5 resist trade-off. unless you're using 20 leap or don't plan on leveling too high, then there may be better options. it's just gonna come down to a matter of preferance.

[Ce Olba]

imo, 64 all resistances is a good trade for 9 skill points. even if it comes down to a 4 pts for 5 resist trade-off. unless you're using 20 leap or don't plan on leveling too high, then there may be better options. it's just gonna come down to a matter of preferance.

Let's compare.

Normal pub setup, 5 base Nat res -> 62 all res
Normal pub setup, 9 base Nat res -> 66 all res

1 resistance per point on average. Not worth it, specially since you will only have the time to use those points when you are around +95 lvl.

Also, 6 base points yields 64 all res, making it 2 resistances for 3 points. Not worth it.

You can easily get that 4 resistance from, for example, a better torch or anni or coa or charms. In case you can get a 20/20 torch, 20/20 anni and a 15/30 CoA, you should be able to get some 20/5's as well.

Also, the problem this guy has is he's lacking the ~45-49 triple resistances from boots. That would give him a fire resistance of 74-78.

[DIEnamic]

I completely understand your argument. but if you're going to go through the trouble to put a 20/20 torch, 20/20 anni, 15/30 coa, and a handful of 20/5's on your bvc, theres no doubt that it won't reach at least level 95.

it doesn't hurt at all to over-stack even if it's a little. especially vs foh and cold sorcs. using the four skill points on natural res would also afford you to swap one 20/5 for a 3/20/20.

at level 89 (84 if you prefer 14 leap) you would have the build fully completed if you used 5 natural res. a good bvc will be 90+ meaning the only logical options left at this point are shout or natural res.

[Ce Olba]

I completely understand your argument. but if you're going to go through the trouble to put a 20/20 torch, 20/20 anni, 15/30 coa, and a handful of 20/5's on your bvc, theres no doubt that it won't reach at least level 95.

it doesn't hurt at all to over-stack even if it's a little. especially vs foh and cold sorcs. using the four skill points on natural res would also afford you to swap one 20/5 for a 3/20/20.

And what exactly do you think one gains from a 32020? Let's see. +1.6 average PvP damage and 118 AR, both which are alone extremely useless.

at level 89 (84 if you prefer 14 leap) you would have the build fully completed if you used 5 natural res. a good bvc will be 90+ meaning the only logical options left at this point are shout or natural res.

Out of the two, Shout is better. Ever heard of diminishing returns?

[DIEnamic]

well gee. guess we don't need 3/20/20s anymore.

and as far as shout is concerned, the only time defense becomes an issue is vs other barbs. quite frankly, you wont find yourself winning vs a bvb or even a bva.

personally, I think investing into natural resist allows you more flexibility in gear along with the ability to stack five more resist. especially if you can't get your hands on 45+ tri res boots.

[Ce Olba]

well gee. guess we don't need 3/20/20s anymore.

Please go and over-size my statements a little bit more. I'm saying that using 12 32020s instead of 11 is quite useless. Replacing a single 20 life SC with a 32020 will have little effect compared to changing all 33 charms from 20 lifers to 32020s. Please use a little bit of common sense or cut the useless and totally unnecessary wannabe-sarcasm.

and as far as shout is concerned, the only time defense becomes an issue is vs other barbs. quite frankly, you wont find yourself winning vs a bvb or even a bva.

You are ah-so-wrong. Defense helps versus:
Chargers
Summoners
WWsins
Zealots
Other barbarians
Wolves
Multi-shot Bowazons

personally, I think investing into natural resist allows you more flexibility in gear along with the ability to stack five more resist. especially if you can't get your hands on 45+ tri res boots.

Sorry, but you will never have +45% on top of the regular 62-64% resistances from Nat Res. The highest you can have is 87% all at lvl 999, which is of course impossible.

No, the little ~2-4% won't help even a bit. You're clearly failing to realize that this guy is having problems with resistances because he uses Goreriders. One should have the gear before making the character, so this guy is pretty much screwed.