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acceleration turkey
23-04-2007, 20:19
just to be clear:

ladder
player vs monster
solo
twinked

ive seen this build done before, but it doesnt seem too popular. maybe because armageddon really is a pain to use? ive never used it before.

skills:

20 armageddon
20 fire claws
20 molton boulder
20 volcano
5 lycanthropy (for early playing)
bear, wolf, feral rage, maul, shockwave, arctic blast, cyclone armor, tornado, twister, hurricane, firestorm, fissure, oak sage

the problem with this build is it doesnt give a lot of options for non-fire damage unless you work it in on your weapon. thus, gear is pretty confusing for me to pick because a typical "fire claws" weapon is a 6 socket phase blade.

possible weapons:

6 socket phase blade combos:
4 shael, eth, fire facet gives 6 frames
5 shael, eth OR fire facet gives 5 frames
4 shael, 2 15% ias/some other mod jewels gives 4 frames
2 shael, 20 OIAS (gloves or highlords), 4 piece combo of eths and fire facets gives 7 frames

i'll say straight up that i hate phase blades because i hate the requirements. ive never used a phase blade weapon on any character unless it has a -requirement jewel in it.

6 socket war spikes:

3 shael, 3 ias jewels gives 5 frames
2 shael, 3 ias jewels, eth OR fire facet gives 6 frames
3 shael, 45 OIAS (treachery), 3 piece combo of eth and fire facets gives 7 frames

none of the previous weapons offer much for physical damage, although crushing blow is obviously available from off-weapon sources.

other weapons:

beast war spike gives 8 frames, berserker with 35 OIAS gives 8 frames

hoj phase with 20 OIAS gives 7 frames


2 handers:

3 shael tombreaver with 50 OIAS gives 5 frames, 6 without any OIAS

shaeled ribcracker with 50 OIAS gives 7 frames

6 shael champion axe gives 4 frames
4 shael champion axe with 10 OIAS gives 5 frames

a two-handed weapon would of course preclude the use of a stormshield or spirit shield.


there is a lot of choice for armor also:

treachery for reaching high OIAS breakpoints, fade, and venom
duress for crushing blow, some resists, hit recovery, and minor cold damage
fortitude for some resists and physical damage if using a weapon that has decent damage such as ribcracker, tombreaver, hoj.
enigma for skills, saving on strength, and footspeed
chains for resists, skills, and some strength

assuming a druid torch, +2 rare, +2 body armor, +2 jalals, +2 spirit shield, thats +11 to all skills and +13 to shapeshifting.

damages:
5950-6450 fire claws
5000-5700 armageddon

using armageddon makes HoJ appealing since it has the resist cut. but, HoJ phase has outrageous dex, and doesnt swing all that fast. there are lower stat faster weapons that privilege the fireclaws attack. the freeze and ignore defense could be nice though.

assuming druid torch, highlords, +2 jalals, thats +6 to all and +8 shapeshifting

damages:
3800-4450 armageddon
4400-4700 fire claws


im looking for some feedback about where i can get non-fire damage and what gear offers the best attributes for a fireclaws/armageddon setup.

Damric
23-04-2007, 23:26
volcano (and early on molten boulder) give descent physical damage. My fc bear just casted those vs immunes. Volcano so fun ;)

acceleration turkey
24-04-2007, 01:04
volcano (and early on molten boulder) give descent physical damage. My fc bear just casted those vs immunes. Volcano so fun ;)

i cant use those while shifted, though. ive also heard that volcano is pretty unweildy since the damage occurs at a point.

Jary
24-04-2007, 08:05
soo... 12 second duration Armagaedon. Fun lol

Try just... pretend your a fire druid till later on in the game, when u can afford to use nigma, etc and phase blade, then go to maxing fireclaw and completing your build.

I recommend using fissure as your back-up skill, its much more effective vs clutter even if its not fully synergized all the way...

20 firestorm
20 fissure
10+ volcano
20 armaegaedon
20 fireclaw
1 point prereq, just get plenty of skillz to make up for it.

Use enigma and Eartshifter 'hel' as a precast for gaedon if you can. Dont worry bout facets in weapon, save for armors if u really want to, always go speed. dont use highlords, use maras