extra points go where?

[bradismyname]

Well i just got my trapsin to 88...and im gathering up extra skill points...i have everything maxed that i want...20 SW 20 CBS 20 DS 1 BOS 1 MB and 1 shadow master...and 1 in the prereqs of course....so this have left me with 7 skill points...and i still have a few quests to do...and i plan on lvling well into the 90s as this is the only char i plan on making and using...i just recently obtained some gear. high def shako, high ed lidless with perf diamond, 33 hoto, nigma, 3 trap ammy, dwarf star, grim whorl for now, sin torch, anni, laying of hands, treks...i still needs charms and maybe some trap claws...basically im wondering what to put these extra 15-20 points in??? im thinking either shadow master to have a nice sidekick or maybe wake or inferno or whatever the highest fire trap is....it also is a death sentry synergy...so one of those 2 of if someone else has a better idea of where to put my 15-20 extra points? thanks :P

[thefrag]

If you are pure traps, I'd say go with mind blast, if you pvp anyway. Learn wake of fire at least, using that in conjunction with high damage LS makes for beautyful stunlocking and only takes 1 point. Learning dragon talons never a waste either imo, even if you have weak boots/no melee gear. I personally can't stand having -zero- melee attacks for when someone is on top of you. Also if you feel like taking a chance, you could max venom, learn talon, and wear some upd gores to be a hybrid of sorts with relative ease/little negative effect on your trapping.

In short, Mind blast if your pure, Venom if you want to branch out, learn talon/wake of fire IMO, and if you dont pvp, shadow master is probably best.

[Silent Shaddow]

Stop levelling this character immediately there may be a serious over sight!
Firstly let me check your skill distribution!
20 Shadow Warrior
20 Charged Bolt Sentry
20 Death Sentry
1 Burst of Speed
1 Mind Blast
1 Shadow Master
correct?

And you haven’t maxed Lightning Sentry?

Ok for a trapsin you should max lightning sentry first,
because *sigh*
of the synergies. I mean that lightning sentry gets a much higher synergy bonus than death sentry so as it turns out, lightning sentry will give you much more damage than death sentry.
For example death sentry receives only 12% lightning bonus from lightning sentry. where as lighting sentry receives 12% from 3 different sources (dsentry, CBsenrty, Sweb) therefore deathsentry can receives 240% increased lightning damage where as lightning sentry receives 720% increased lightning damage

as you can see you might be missing out on a huge chuck of damage

may not be the greatest explanation but I hope you get the idea?
LSentry=Light Damage
Dsentry=Corpse Explosion

so before you consider taking this char to level 90 you might want to think about your stat distribution because in my opinion the 20 in shadow warrior is wasted, a) shadow warrior will lay traps at her level and so will over hide yours with lower damage, b) will only use you 'hot keyed' spell and so limits her useful, c)shadow warrior can use any skill and saves life, my shadow warrior saves my sins life all the time, a well placed mind blast from her and I am left wondering why I am not dead.

[bradismyname]

I said i have 1 point in shadow master atm....i did leave out a huge part lol i have 20 points in LS.

my skills look this:

20 SW
20 CBS
20 LS
20 DS
1 BOS
1MB
1 Shadow Master
1 in prereqs

what im wondering is where to put the next 15-20 points?

I also put 38 points into strength...to make sure i had enough to where my gear...didnt know i was gona get anni and sin torch and stuff...thats ok though cuz it puts me at 170 right now with all gear on....and whats the strength req for spirit shield? i think like 160-170? and for cta? so i think im ok there....and i put 0 in dex so far...cuz i can where all my gear without it...and i put 0 in energy...and the rest in vit? is this ok stat distribution? i still have some skill quests to do also keep in mind.

[bradismyname]

and i was thinking about putting 20 points in "shadow master" no shadow warrior....shadow master doesnt lay traps if im correct...and doesnt override any of my stuff....the other thing i was thinking about putting 20 points in was wake of inferno...which would be nice while im soloing...cuz atm all i have is lightning damage....and some are immune...would give me some ok fire damage...and wake of inferno is synergy for death sentrey which is also nice. I'm not sure about mind blast...i have 1 point in there...and with all my plus skills...it seems to be fine...i will still consider it though...also im wondering is i should put any points into fade? i hear u can only use bos OR fade? and i really like using bos. thanks for responding.

[thefrag]

From what I've heard wake of inferno is pretty gimped, and without synergies would only be more so. Mind blast points are ultimately for magic unresistable damage in pvp, so yeah might not be best in pvm (which I'm assuming is what you do) Shadow master is probably your best bet. Immunes can kill themselves after mindblasting a few. The shadow master also adds pretty notable melee damage which can help take them out.

[stephan]

SW is confusing with Shadow Warrior and Shock Web skills. :smiley:

The shadow master can override your traps, although she doesn't seem to cast them that often. A shadow warrior does not override your traps, so you could get 5 extra traps from her if she doesn't decide to use normal attack instead.

If you want fire damage get Fire Blast. All the lightning traps are synergies for it and it gives Death Sentry more shots. And throwing those grenades is just awesome too. Note that with enough +skills a maxed Fire Blast will actually do more damage per shot than Lightning Sentry. :cool:

Yes, you can only have either BoS or Fade active. Venom can always be used, but is rather useless to a trapper of course.

[bradismyname]

ya sorry SW can be confused for shadow warrior...just thought it was well known that all lighting trappers get shock web...but yes it is shock web to clear things up...and wow fire blast...i never thought of that...guess i have something else to think about. thanks :P anyone else care to toss some ideas in?

o and i do pvm and pvp...not strictly just one. even though my chars name is PK_TrapU

[aman]

Please try not to double post.

You can edit your post up to an hour after posting if you forget to add anything

Edit : For a trapper looking for a way to deal with flight immunes fireblast is the way to go in my opinion. Or infinity if you can afford it

[bradismyname]

ive heard of infinity what is it?

[aman]

a runeword that gives you conviction(which breaks most of the light immunes)

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/runewords-110.shtml

Scroll down abit, It's quite expensive though

[Silent Shaddow]

yay lots of confusion, its why i try (lol i dont always suceed) in using shortened but not completely shortented names, for example SWeb, LSentry, DSentry

anyways, you could stick those points in dtalon, make some gear adjustments and turn her in to a k/t! :laugh:

[bradismyname]

hmm what kinda gear adjustments would u suggest for that?

currently im wearing:
shako
3trap ammy
15 ed enigma
35 fcr spirit
33 hoto
treks
laying of hands
ptroch
dwarf star
and some other crap ring i need to replace
1 trap charm atm

[Silent Shaddow]

treks=upped gores
gloves=dracks
run bos
carry some weapon with high crushing blow for bosses and run you hoto the rest of the time,

not really a great run down, but it will do (until my guide comes out :jig:)

[thefrag]

another fun idea for immunes is keep a merc infinity on your weapon switch (yeah, elite eth one for high damage) and put a point into venom and blade fury. That way when you hit light immunes, all you gotta do is switch weapons, and toss shurikens. The light immunes will lose their immunity and you'll also get high physical damage from the fast FPS blade fury using 3/4 an eth two handed elite weapons damage. Heck I'd switch weapons after laying traps even on non immunes for this XP

[bradismyname]

i have a 39 hoto now...and of course i didnt mean ptorch lol...i ment sin torch....anyways im still thinking about where to put my extra points...i still want to be a pure trapsin...not any melee at all....so shadow master, the fire bomb thing, and mind blast are my leading ones right now.

[bradismyname]

is it worth putting more than 1 point in bos and mb? i have10-15 unused points....and still cant decide bewtween fire blast, bos, mb, shadow master, or a combo or some of them...also i dont have any points in fade atm...should i put 1 there? i really like bos...and dont think i could play without it...and im am nearing max res in hell anways.

[Vang]

Shadow Warrior Doesn't override Traps, meaning that I can effectively can have 10 traps total out? This is very interesting.