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Vang
23-04-2007, 05:09
Are these stackable? Like the 1-9X lightning and the 24-45ish fire on the same jewel, or are the considered part of the same sub type(like resist for example)

helvete
23-04-2007, 10:27
I still haven't seen any rare jewels in the rare items brag thread. I suppose they are only usful for LLD purposes.

helvete
23-04-2007, 10:28
BTW elemental damage of different types are ALWAYS stackable, as are resists of different types.

Darkflight
23-04-2007, 11:10
I always thought that elemental damage on jewels had really high req level. So the duels must be at level 50 or so at least.

Vang
23-04-2007, 12:55
BTW elemental damage of different types are ALWAYS stackable, as are resists of different types.

No, you can't find a rare jewel with dual elemental resist. Imagine a 30fire/30lightning resist jewel. They are classified from the same sub type, so once a mod is chosen it can't be chosen again.

Low level rare jewels can have multiple damage types, but I'm looking specifically for the higher end damage ones. And have yet to see one, so I am so far just assuming the different damages are in a pool and only one is chosen.

helvete
23-04-2007, 13:25
No, you can't find a rare jewel with dual elemental resist. Imagine a 30fire/30lightning resist jewel. They are classified from the same sub type, so once a mod is chosen it can't be chosen again.

Low level rare jewels can have multiple damage types, but I'm looking specifically for the higher end damage ones. And have yet to see one, so I am so far just assuming the different damages are in a pool and only one is chosen.

Has this changed in a patch or something? I thought I just had bad luck, because I KNOW that I've had rare jewels with something like 10/22/10/30 resists at times.

krischan
23-04-2007, 13:55
Perhaps you are confusing it with rings or amulets where the different elemental res affixes are in different groups.

All jewel single res affixes are in the same group, so there are no rares with two single res affixes. However, allres has its own group, so something like a rare 10/40/10/10 jewel is possible.

helvete
23-04-2007, 13:59
...jewel single res affixes are in the same group...
I understand; what I'm asking is if it has always been like this?

PhatTrumpet
23-04-2007, 14:53
Are these stackable? Like the 1-9X lightning and the 24-45ish fire on the same jewel, or are the considered part of the same sub type(like resist for example)
I believe I socketed a Tiamat's Rebuke or BStar with just such a jewel (not nearly perfect stats, but definitely more than one elemental damage mod). I'll see if I can get a screenie of it tonight.

krischan
23-04-2007, 15:00
I understand; what I'm asking is if it has always been like this?
According to the 2002 and early 2005 version of d2data (via www.archive.org), it was like that in 1.09 and 1.10 as well.

PhatTrumpet
24-04-2007, 00:26
Here's my socketed Tiamat's (I use it on my Fury Druid's weapon switch along with a Shaeled BStar against particularly resilient phys immunes):

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/PhatTrumpet/JeweledTiamats.jpg?t=1177367391

Stats of unsocketed shield:
Defense: 163-204 (varies)
Required Level: 38
Required Strength: 91
Chance to Block: 38%
Durability: 116
+140-200% Enhanced Defense (varies)
Adds 27-53 Cold Damage - 6 Second Duration
Adds 35-95 Fire Damage
Adds 1-120 Lightning Damage
3% Chance To Cast Level 6 Hydra When Struck
5% Chance To Cast Level 7 Nova When Struck
5% Chance To Cast Level 9 Frost Nova When Struck
All Resistances +25-35% (varies)

Stats of my socketed shield:
Defense: 187
Required Level: 49
Required Strength: 91
Chance to Block: 38%
Durability: 116
+176% Enhanced Defense
Adds 27-53 Cold Damage - 6 Second Duration
Adds 50-134 Fire Damage
Adds 2-215 Lightning Damage
3% Chance To Cast Level 6 Hydra When Struck
5% Chance To Cast Level 7 Nova When Struck
5% Chance To Cast Level 9 Frost Nova When Struck
Cold Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +35%
Fire Resist +35%
Poison Resist +56%

So, by deduction, the rare jewel mods must have been:
Required Level: 49
Adds 15-39 Fire Damage
Adds 1-95 Lightning Damage
Poison Resist +21%

Bjam
24-04-2007, 01:53
Are these stackable? Like the 1-9X lightning and the 24-45ish fire on the same jewel, or are the considered part of the same sub type(like resist for example)

Yes! 100% certain you can get multiple elemental damage mods as I have have two such jewels on ladder.