Windy Question's; Yes I read the Sticky.

[cmchrome]

My gear is exactly like the one in the sticky by Fenris the only exception is really none, I use 2 -10%fcr rings with huge str mods and a maras.

OK, I've started dueling with my windy on ladder uswest. lvl 80 atm(cm_wood). Ive played with a couple of other windies, Dvs something and another by the name of Skin.
Theses two Seemed to destroy every other char they fought. I noticed they were saying that thier life was in the upper 6k range. My question is this. I have followed Fenris windy build exactly(un-original but this is my 1st Druid ).
I showed skin most of my gear which he exclaimed was crap. I believed him to be using dual spirits, weapon and shield. I belive thier cast rates to be higher obviosly, but how the heck do you get your life so high.
I'll admit i still need to max Oak but let me share my inventory 1st.
i have the anni a torch 19/19. 5 Elemental GC with 30+ life, 2 GC with +12 FHR. and 1 plain, ya I need one more. I have Five, 5 resist +20 life sc, Two, 5%fhr/20life sc and 2 plain 20 life sc. I have a 6bo cta. I have max block with the stormshield which i ber'd, and i shael'd the shako 4 the extra fhr. I currently have 50% Dr with 72% Fhr and 100% fcr. Now, my life after BO is 3500.) I have used 0 points in str and only the min. in dex to reach 75% max block.
Whew, I hope thats not to hard to read. Anyways, I'm starting to think that there are better ways to build thses guys but have not found any info on the better builds. (secrets carefully guarded?). Anyways tell me if I messed up anywhere or will my life get crazy high the more the Oak lvls up, I still have 13 more skill points to go with that.

Thx for reading

[LA Michigander]

Imo the max block/max dr druid is an overprecaution. This build has been very successful for me in pvp:

2/20 druid circ/w life mod.
mp enigma
2xbks
bloodfists
waterwalks
arach
maras
hoto
9x gcs with avg of +15 life (not nearly as good as yours)
anni 17/19
dtorch 19/20
8x 20 life scs

few in str, all in vit.

So with this build I get the 99fhr 99fcr bp.
With this build you'll have a lot more life and personally i want the extra +4 to skills to take care of hammerdins.
But most melee can be dodged or you can use your wolves to take those guided arrows and pally chargers.
I think a caster should go for dmg and high life before max block and dr because the strategy of most casters is to dodge and avoid while spamming spells.

[Verashiden]

True, but with casters like a Windy and Hammerdin it's a different game since you essentially have to be close in to deal damage. Even with minion stack certain melee characters will still eat you alive. This build already has a hard time against BvCs and WWsins. Without max block for them you're pretty much dead bar bad tri whirls or sloppy play.

[cmchrome]

Allright, Ive gone up with a couple of other Windies and they have destroyed me. I'll give them they were higher lvls 89 and 96, which means they had oak higher, therefore higher life.

I also noticed they could hang with pretty much everyone else, where I was having difficulty with them (still learning how to duel with a Druid).

There was one consistancy(sp?) with each of these Druids They had Different gear than I, yet they all seemed to have simular gear to each other, for example.

Helm was a rare(yellow lettering) +2 Druid skills 20% fcr with other mods socketed with a shael for the fhr.

Weapon was wizspike unknown what it was socketed with. 50%fcr

Shield was a Spirit 35%fcr

Then some had Godly rare ammys +skillls 10%fcr ect... while others used Maras

The ones who used fcr ammys were able to get away with a bk ring or SoJ and one 10% fcr ring. While the ones who had the Maras ammy had to use two Fcr rings.

The rest of the Gear was the same as mine, Trang Gloves or Magefist( both offer 20% fcr), Arach belt(20%fcr), Treks. Enigma in a low str req. armor.

Therefore while I had 100% fcr, they had 165%fcr

Thier stat points were all in life while able to use gear at lvl 75 (thats when u can use the Torch and count those stat points.)

Thier block rates were around 10%, yet this didnt seem to phase them much due to the HUGE life 6k up to 7k.

They had the better cast rate per frame which allowed them to tele and spam nados way faster (even though it was only one frame more than mine it seemed to be a huge difference).

The Fhr break point is still unknown to me but i thought it was 86% which is achieved by Sheal 20% treks 20% two Gc @ 12fhr each +24% and sc fhr or any combo u need.

I believe this build to be superior to the one Fenris uses (pvp). Just my two cents.

[Dodgydave]

It's a bit hard to compare your lvl 80 Windy to a level 96 counterpart.

That's 16x5 = 80 extra stat points = 160 extra life + 1.5 life per level x 16 = 24 more life = 184 more life total.

If they don't have max block and you do you've probably invested 150+ stat points in dex which they haven't so that's over 300 more life.

So about 500 extra base life.

With Oak Sage at approx lvl 35 (?) for them that's about 200% increased life so they should have over 1500 extra life just from their added levels.

I'm not sure how many points you currently have in Oak but if they have 16 more than you it's an extra 80% life they're gaining on the base life your character and theirs have (if that makes sense!).

So it's easy to see where their extra life comes from.

But I'm no PvP or Druid expert, but if from what you've seen their set up looks better that may well be the case.

[inanefedaykin]

Level 90 is generaly recognized as the minimum level for pvp.

[Valvolux]

Max Dr and block windies are of course going to have far less life, yet in my opinion make for a far more versatile dueler. Sure dual 'Spirit' wielding windies will have greater life and usually hit the last fcr bp, but any decent bvc or ghostsin will eat em for breakfast.

Also dueling isn't about stats and items, some of my best duelers have under 1k life and do fine in pubbies.

Remember say no to CTA kids!

[hhhrobi]

gear is over rated!

skill is under rated!

[DayDream]

My windy has about..7.2k-7.5k. I'm thinking of remaking it with block

[Summerfun]

Im thinking about remaking my druid to. Im trading for some gear at the moment, i like to have all my gear before i begin.

My old one was max block and so will the new one be.
But hes primary setup will be non block i think.
Some thing like this


Setup 1
Rare circlet 2druid 20fcr shael
Amu is a 18fcr 15str life mana and 18all res
Dual spirits or wizzard+ spirit not sure yet.
trang gloves
arachnid mesh
2 x fcr rings, both with 18 str and 8x mana.


Setup 2
Jalals with shael
Amu is 2druid 17fcr 20dex mana 13 allres (so sad its not 18-20 fcr:cry: )
Spirit sword - Hoto - Wizard spike
Storm shield with ber
trang gloves
arach
1 fcr ring with 12dex low life and mana
raven frost

Inventory
3 ele skillers with fhr
6 ele skillers with 3X and 4X life
2 fhr scs
8 20/5 scs


This gives me 163/174 setup for casters
and 99/99 setup with max block for when that is needed.

Any thing i should change?

[Summerfun]

no comments?

[Verashiden]

I don't play Windies so I don't know >.>. But if you're using three FHR GCs as well as Spirit do you really need the Shael in your circlet? I'd personally PRuby it or get a nice Life and mods jewel for it.

Are you using the Raven to hit max block? I'd rather spend those points and get a BK on there instead.

[Valvolux]

This gives me 163/174 setup for casters
and 99/99 setup with max block for when that is needed.

Any thing i should change?

The irony wasn't lost when i read your signature. :wink3:

[Summerfun]

Im very ironic:laugh: