PDA

View Full Version : Pvp Bow helm


tinncann25
26-03-2007, 00:13
choice 1

30frw helm socketed with 2x 40/15s and 1x 40/9dex

choice 2

2zon, 30frw, 30str, 36life, 20s socketed with 2x 40/15s


i only need 30ias to hit the last break points.

emar
26-03-2007, 00:37
The second one is a billion times sexier. I don't think there would be a noticeable damage difference between the two - working from my screwy 2 hours of sleep math.

Wait for other opinions, but my first and only choice would be numero 2.

crawlingdeadman
26-03-2007, 03:15
number 2 then give me number one.

SlainByPain
27-03-2007, 07:28
The difference is small, but technically choice 1 would be superior for a pure bowa.

tinncann25
27-03-2007, 14:26
The difference is small, but technically choice 1 would be superior for a pure bowa.

would you like to elaborate on this?

crawlingdeadman
27-03-2007, 16:18
i think if you're putting any extra points into d/a/e that could be used somewhere else more useful then number two would be better because that's two less each you'd have to put in. similarly for the str if it could be put somewhere more usefull then number two comes out. have you run any numbers? 30 more into dex is 30% more damage, correct?

kk, let's break it down: the 40/15's cancel out as well as the 30frw. assuming you'd put the stats into dex the differences are 2zon/36 life vs 21%ed (30dex =30%ed, 40%ed+9dex= 49%ed). the 2zon into ga is another 10% ed so the difference is 36life vs 11%ed.

are my thoughts correct? if you put your stats into life then it's a different ball of wax and if you didnt need the str on the helm then those are wasted and not gained but that's a whole other set of figures to look at. also add in the fact that the helm isnt +2 guided, but also + to the passives and any jav skills you may be using.

personally i think number two all the way.

SlainByPain
28-03-2007, 21:49
It depends on a few things. If you can actually use all of the 30 str to help equip your gear, the second may be a contender. However, remember that 11% ed > 36 life in terms of charm space. +2 to passives won't move your dodge level more than 1%, so it's pretty much a waste.

CoRRuPt-OnE
30-03-2007, 04:01
You're looking at the difference between 30 str 36 life and 2 skills to 40 ed 9 dex
Isn't it obvious? number 2 is far superior.

SlainByPain
30-03-2007, 05:54
.. Look closely. 2 skills equates to a mere 10% ed for a bowazon. 30 str = 30 ED assuming he can actually use all of the str. 36 life is only 2 charms worth of life, and most bowazons would rather have more damage anyway.

dainbramage
30-03-2007, 12:11
Corrupt - you're comparing 40% ed (+2 GA, 30 stats) and 36 life to 49% ed. With pumped crit and decent d/a/e levels, the skills wont make much of a difference to passives.

36 life wont make much of a difference in the end. I've said it a lot of times in various places, but vita and glass cannon doesn't make a bit of difference when you're dodge-locked and FHR locked by a melee.

If you're a hybrid, esp. a jav-centered one with high vita, the 2nd option is definitely superior. If you're a pure bowie, the first is.

KremBanan
30-03-2007, 12:19
Personally, if I needed only 30IAS, I would use nr2 and sell nr1. Its worth alot and you could finance most of your other needed gear. People would most likely value it higher than the rare, because you can have 3x 40/15 in it.

SlainByPain
30-03-2007, 18:25
Basically what I said drainbramage. Both of those items are so insanely godly that I'm sure he has the funds to afford anything else he may need on the zon anyway. The second one might even sell for more than the first.

CoRRuPt-OnE
01-04-2007, 04:41
the difference in 9 ED just isn't worth keeping especially when he says he only needs 30 more ias.

Cope
01-04-2007, 05:40
I'd go for #2. The difference is going to be very minimal. +2 skills and 38 Life vs. 9% ED. Sell the first - it's worth more.

Petebest
02-04-2007, 03:44
#2, dmg difference is pretty much cancelled out and as people are mentioning the +2 is for d/a/e as well as valk, penetrate, pierce, crit, guided, strafe, multi...

#2 seems to come out ahead. And if you have a legit 30/3 circlet, just sell it and make another character ;)

SlainByPain
02-04-2007, 03:57
... Assuming price is not an issue... #1 IS better. 9% ed is a lot better than 1% or possibly not even dodge %. However, like said before, the difference is minimal.