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Leuthesius
24-03-2007, 02:20
How am I supposed to post some new information without an edit button? Based on the rules I either have to break them to bring new information to a trade table or say nothing. Do you have to have a certain amount of posts to edit your posts?

aman
24-03-2007, 02:21
You can edit your posts up to one hour iirc

Leuthesius
24-03-2007, 02:24
-.-;

Alright, so how am I supposed to tell someone in a trade thread new information without bumping it within the 48 hour rule getting the thread closed and likely banned in the process?

Thyiad
24-03-2007, 02:27
I would have thought they can tell the difference between additional information and bumping. Have you considered PMing the Mod involved. You might get a better answer. After all they are the ones who CAN ban.

Edit: And I think your thread in USWest would be better off in the Price Check Forum. Just a thought.

Lanceor
24-03-2007, 03:16
If you have legitimate new information to add to a thread, and it's past the Edit cutoff period, then it's okay to add the information. It also helps to add a sentence like "Sorry for double post - can't edit." to make your intentions clear. Posting "buuuuummmmp" is not new information.

But dude, not meaning to be harsh... drop it. It's getting annoying. You've already had a closed thread about why your first thread got closed. You were invited to PM the mod to discuss the problem, but seems like you didn't. The rules for these forums are very clear, and nobody else has problems following them.

Most people would prefer not trade with someone who whines for two days and can't adhere to forum rules - how would they know you won't complain about a trade and break rules to get a better deal? So do yourself a favour if you want your trades to be successful ones.

AnimeCraze
24-03-2007, 03:57
I agree, though the edit rule is a bit off the wall, and that there is no reason it should even exist, you have more than enough complaint posts as well. If the mods are not reading the first 2 and reacting properly to it, they are not going to read the third one.

This is also 1 of the reasons I rarely go to the trade forums, and rather try my luck on bnet.

Shaperla
24-03-2007, 04:52
Alright. Lets take a look here. So far, in the last day or so, you have griped and whined about my closing a thread. In a PM, which basically told me you didn't read the rules, and wanted pity, which I considered and decided "no, he needs to read the rules, and abide by them."

Then you come and bore these good people half to death, because you don't like that we actually expect people to adhere to our rules. Gorny takes care of it by closing the thread. Great, problem solved.

And still, you want to post again. To continue your complaining.

OK, lets review things for you. You post a thread. http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=542819

You respond to an offer: http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=5342855&postcount=4

3 hours later, you make the next post in the thread:
http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=5343321&postcount=5


Correction, 3 hours, 35 minutes.

Believe it or not, we do read the post. When it is a content post, that is taken into consideration. Yes, we do actually comprehend a difference between content, and bumping. When there are three content enhancing posts, in a matter of say 4 or 5 hours, thats going to be a little questionable. When it is a post reading: bummmmmmmmmp

It is going to get closed.

Not reading the rules, is not an excuse. Period. End of discussion.

If you still have an issue, you are welcome to message the site admin, namely Elly. Kindly include all pertinent information, and wait for her response.

Have a nice day.




Gorny, Sommer, sorry to invade newcomer, but since this is related to a USWest Trade issue, and its been ongoing, I felt I should drop in.

krischan
24-03-2007, 13:59
Even though the thread has been closed already, I would like to comment on this, as I'm a trading forum mod as well.

I'm fully behind Shap's way of handling this and IMO he has reacted very modestly to your continued behaviour.

1. Not having read the rules is no excuse. The opposite is the case. The closing of the thread will make you read the rules.

2. In the previous thread you said that a warning would have been enough. The closing of your thread is a warning. Another, more substantial warning would be a temporary ban. What's not a warning is a permanent ban.

3. Any posting with the purpose of bumping leads to the closing of a thread, even if it's not the second posting in a row.

4. If you have to add new information after the edit period is over, but before you are allowed to post again, it's simple: You can't, period.

5. Making this a public issue won't do any good. The opposite is the case. It will make mods to stick to their decision, else people will think that the mod was influenced that way.

6. Starting yet another public posting about the issue after the previous one has been closed is not tolerated. I wouldn't be surprised if further behaviour like that will get you banned. The world isn't just revolving around you. Accept the decisions of a mod, it's us who have the final word here, not you. It's sink or swim.

7. There is no freedom of speech here. We are all guests in this forum, including the mods. See rule #10 of the forum rules.

Gorny
24-03-2007, 15:46
How am I supposed to post some new information without an edit button? Based on the rules I either have to break them to bring new information to a trade table or say nothing. Do you have to have a certain amount of posts to edit your posts?




he issue regarding you bumping a thread in the West Trade Forum and Shap's closing of the thread in question is not to be brought up again on the public forums. The discussion on the matter is over. The forum rules will stay the way they currently are, and they are expected to be followed, as I said to you before, not reading them is no excuse to break them.

I stand by and back up every word that Krischan sand above and what Shaperla said here:

QUOTE=Shaperla;5350071]Alright. Lets take a look here. So far, in the last day or so, you have griped and whined about my closing a thread. In a PM, which basically told me you didn't read the rules, and wanted pity, which I considered and decided "no, he needs to read the rules, and abide by them."

Then you come and bore these good people half to death, because you don't like that we actually expect people to adhere to our rules. Gorny takes care of it by closing the thread. Great, problem solved.

And still, you want to post again. To continue your complaining.

OK, lets review things for you. You post a thread. http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=542819

You respond to an offer: http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=5342855&postcount=4

3 hours later, you make the next post in the thread:
http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=5343321&postcount=5


Correction, 3 hours, 35 minutes.

Believe it or not, we do read the post. When it is a content post, that is taken into consideration. Yes, we do actually comprehend a difference between content, and bumping. When there are three content enhancing posts, in a matter of say 4 or 5 hours, thats going to be a little questionable. When it is a post reading:

It is going to get closed.

Not reading the rules, is not an excuse. Period. End of discussion.

If you still have an issue, you are welcome to message the site admin, namely Elly. Kindly include all pertinent information, and wait for her response.

Have a nice day.


I am not asking you to read the rules, I am telling you to read them and abide by them. If you do not abide by the rules, or if you continue to to troll this issue or any other breaking of the rules, loss of forum account can occur.

Thank you, Gorny.