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Leuthesius
23-03-2007, 00:17
I'm a newcomer, and I created a thread:
http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=542819

I thought that we had resolved the issue in the thread. I am not here to cause trouble, I am only here to find an item. Two of them. Would someone please tell me what I've done wrong here, and why I now have to wait '48 hours' just to recreate that same thread which will likely be deleted based on the same rules?

Please just re-open my thread. I'm only needing those two items...

aman
23-03-2007, 00:20
And now that I am here, this is closed for bumping, and may not be reposted for 48 hours. You may want to go read those rules.

http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=5342855&postcount=4

http://forums.diabloii.net/showpost.php?p=5343321&postcount=5

Please go read through the rules about bumping

Evrae Altana
23-03-2007, 00:22
You bumped your thread, which is against the rules of that forum. I don't know how much more clearly it could be. The rules thread clearly states you cannot bump your trade thread for at least 48 hours. Failure to do so will result in your trade thread getting closed by the mods.
Next time, just wait the required 48 hours before bumping. That should avoid any trouble. :smiley:
If you have any more questions, you should give Shaperla a PM.

Leuthesius
23-03-2007, 00:40
Here's the thing, I did not know that was a rule, as I had not read the rules. Did I screw up, yes. But now I can't even recreate the thread based on the forum rules.

aman
23-03-2007, 00:41
Thats not the forums fault , it's your fault you didn't read the rules

Evrae Altana
23-03-2007, 00:43
I did not know that was a rule, as I had not read the rulesYour fault, not the mod's.
But now I can't even recreate the thread based on the forum rules.According to the post Shaperla made, you can repost your thread at 7:28 the day after tomorrow.

xsapphire
23-03-2007, 01:21
lol i honestly don't see w hat the big deal is, my thread was right under yours and was closed too. just follow the rules and wait it out haha its not too difficult. (im a newcomer too)

Leuthesius
23-03-2007, 02:21
I would think there'd be some sort of warning system. You can't expect people to read the rules and expect something so ridiculous. I would think there'd be a warning at least.

xsapphire
23-03-2007, 02:52
what do you mean you can't expect people to read the rules lol? these are private forums of course you have to abide by them as you would abide by the laws of your country.
and a warning would be nice but seriously a punishment of just having to wait 2 days to repost the same thread is nothing to create a new thread to cry about.

Leuthesius
23-03-2007, 02:58
Right. The general rules of ANY forum are as follow:

No Mass Spam
No Porn

Bumping a thread maybe once a day does not constitute as spam no matter how you look at it. Bumping multiple times in a 24 hour period IS spam.
I have no problem abiding by rules if I A) know about them, and B) am warned first if I cross any lines.

I do not have "visibly posted" rules on the forums I admin because they aren't necessary. I was not warned at all before my thread was closed.

I crossed a line yes, but I would have expected a little bit of leniency. And I don't want to HAVE to create a new thread when mine is just fine for what I need. Going forward, I will of course abide by the rules now that I know what they are and that they are there.

I showed up, I hit "New Thread", and that was it. I don't have time to become some huge integral part of the community.

Evrae Altana
23-03-2007, 03:06
Bumping a thread maybe once a day does not constitute as spam no matter how you look at it.Don't think you're the first one to try that little argument. Shorten it to 24 hours and pretty soon, people will start wanting to shorten it to 12 hours, then 11 hours, and so on and so forth. The trade forums will become a cesspool.
I have no problem abiding by rules if I A) know about them, and B) am warned first if I cross any lines.A) Which is why you should've read the rules when you joined. :azn:
B) The thread closage WAS the warning.

Mursilis
23-03-2007, 03:17
I'd bet warnings for this sort of thing aren't given as the mods would have real trouble remembering who was warned and who hasn't been yet. It is far easier to simply have a global rule (such as the one in place) and everyone abides by it. Sorry you didn't read the rules beforehand, however it's only 48 hours so not a bid deal in the end.

Leuthesius
23-03-2007, 03:21
Ya know.. if the rules weren't size 2 font people might notice them and read them. I JUST now saw them at the top of the forum.

Evrae, I didn't KNOW there was a 48 hour rule, so I'm not saying to shorten them to 24. I was saying that it's not too big of a deal.

Evrae Altana
23-03-2007, 03:27
Ya know.. if the rules weren't size 2 font people might notice them and read them.Which is why they're stickied.
I was saying that it's not too big of a deal.And yet it is a big deal. Rules are there for the benefit of the entire community. Just because you decide it's "not a big deal" is no excuse to break them.

emar
23-03-2007, 03:30
It has been a while since I created a forum account, however I am certain when signing up you must agree to the rules of the forum. In order to agree, it should send you to them. You fasttracked, didn't read 'em and lucked out - learn from your mistakes and move on.

This is similar to clicking the accept 'Terms of Use' on Battle.net, then proceeding to moan about getting banned for using 3PP that you didn't know where not permitted because you didn't read the the license.

Life lesson - don't sign something unless you read it and completely understand it first. Save 'ya some problems in the real world.

Gorny
23-03-2007, 03:39
Greetings Leuthesius,

To clarify the rules for for these forums, including the trade forums.

First off, the forum rules or any general forum rules on another site (with the exception of our sister sites, which are Worldofwar.net and GWonline.net) do not apply here.

All members are expected to read the our forum rules, and any relevant rules that are specific to a forum before posting. When you register a new account, there is a checkbox that you have to check in order to complete registration, this box it there to confirm that you did infact read the forum rules on registering an account with us.

While we do not force you to read the rules, not reading them and not knowing them is no excuse to break them. The rules are the same for everyone, regardless of if you have been here one hour or 3+ years.

That said if a rule is broken the assigned mod of the forum that that rule was broken in has complete authority to act in any way he or she sees fit, and this includes: locking a thread, disallowing it's reposting permanently or for a period of time, deleting the thread, giving a warning, giving a profile infraction, giving a temp ban from the forums or giving a permanent ban from the forums.

The trade forum rules are exactly the same as the general forum rules in the fact that they are expected to be read and obeyed. There are no exceptions for anyone because everyone is held to the same set of rules. So, regardless of if you are a newcommer or someone that has been here a while, the consequences of rule braking remain the same, as is the punishment for breaking them.

The fact that you did not read the rules or was not aware of them is no excuse to break them, hence you paid the price.


Regardless of what size you say the font of the rules are in, everyone else can read them just fine. They are not going to change. They are the rules and they are expected to be followed.

I'd bet warnings for this sort of thing aren't given as the mods would have real trouble remembering who was warned and who hasn't been yet. It is far easier to simply have a global rule (such as the one in place) and everyone abides by it. Sorry you didn't read the rules beforehand, however it's only 48 hours so not a bid deal in the end.

Actually it's easier now, we give a profile infraction which generates a PM to the one getting the infraction, a note on the profile, and a thread in our mod forum is generated.


So that said, we keep trake easily :wink3:

Leuthesius
23-03-2007, 03:52
I thought that vB had infractions built in. I would have preferred to have just been given an infraction, told what I had done wrong, and move on. Rather than just having my thread closed. I would have thought a quick slap on the wrist and a "no!" would have been sufficient.

Gorny
23-03-2007, 03:57
Regardless, this thread is now closed and the discussion on the matter is over, please read and abide by the forum rules.