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ThomasJohnsen
21-03-2007, 00:11
I have just traded the full M'avina's set for my Strafazon.

Before I equipped it I used an upped, shael'd Buriza and relied somewhat on Crushing Blow (Gores, Guillaume's).
With the set on I deal significantly less damage.

If I should decide to wear the set anyways (due to better AR, resists etc.), what do I socket in the Bow / Armor / Diadem to get the most damage output?
Should i use min dmg. jewels, ias jewels, max dmg. jewels?
I am also unsure about which rings / amulets to use. Raven / Rare ll / min dmg ring / Atma seem to provide the highest damage output.

Any thoughts on the matter?

All inputs will be greatly appreciated (I'm quite frankly at a loss).

*ThomasJohnsen

Hector
21-03-2007, 00:29
Hmmm, look at the bright side, at least you no longer have a fugly mask-look of Guillaumes or the slow and style-less crossbow shooting animation. ;)

For a Strafer, special effects such as Crushing Blow, Knockback and chance to Amplify Damage are very nice and trigger very often.

In my opinion:

1. Keep the Atma's Scarab for the Amplify Damage;
2. Equip a Raven Frost (Cannot Be Frozen is a must) and a Life Steal ring (Bul Khatos is nice for the Life Steal, +Life and +Skills if you rely on Freezing Arrow);
3. Gore Riders (Crush Blow/D. Strike) or War Travaler (+15-25 damage/Str/Vit/MF) both work, up to your personal style/budget);
4. Socketing is tricky because of IAS tables and I have none to check right now. I would say IAS has the priority on all 3 slots; but if you have reached a desired breakpoint already, 'Nef' the bow for Knockback and you'll have great crowd control.

As much +max damage charms as possible, Torch, Anni, Might Merc, it all really adds up.

Good luck! :prop:

ThomasJohnsen
21-03-2007, 10:49
Thank you very much! :thumbsup:

Insightfull and very helpfull comments.
You have a gold star in my book now! :grin:

If there's ever anything you need - don't hesitate to PM.
I might be able to help you out. :thumbsup:

*ThomasJohnsen

MrKaxe
21-03-2007, 10:55
Shael in the bow and 15% ias jewel somewhere for a 9 frame attack...

great set...i posted in the community forum about it somewhere...

EDIT: http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=541153

chatted about it in Amazon forum not community heheheh but the speed thing is in there as the rest refers to FA zon...

HobbesAC
21-03-2007, 11:03
you should get a faith bow and give it to an act1 rogue mercenary that way your mavina ama may will be able to reach max speed

ThomasJohnsen
21-03-2007, 12:08
So glad to see a lot of responses to my thread.
All advice will be taken into consideration.
I think the Shael / 15 IAS solution has to be tried out.
My resists are 75 all with torch and charms.

Thank you all - you have been most helpful. :smiley:

I will deal with those übers soon (Über-Duriel bought it yesterday). :wink3:
Think Lilith will pose somewhat of a threat though.
Thank god I have a druid tank with Leviathan, SoE, Jalal. :grin: (My friend Jesper)

*ThomasJohnsen

MrKaxe
21-03-2007, 12:34
I think the Shael / 15 IAS solution has to be tried out.


Definately Shael the bow for 10 frame bp but check with Weapon Calc on the next IAS for 9 frame bp as Cat's Eye is suggested useage for strafer...15 IAS jewel was my bad memory!

ThomasJohnsen
21-03-2007, 17:37
Doubtful I'll use Cat's Eye.
The damage output seems higher with the amplify dmg. trigger in Atma.
Especially in a party.


*ThomasJohnsen

MrKaxe
21-03-2007, 18:24
Doubtful I'll use Cat's Eye.
The damage output seems higher with the amplify dmg. trigger in Atma.
Especially in a party.


*ThomasJohnsen

Yes dude the Amp is golden, i was correcting my previous advice on the 15%IAS jewel as you might need more to reach a 9 frame strafe and Cat's would be one way to do it...check the calc for the acual IAS you will need using Mav's (Shael in bow is 60%, 30% from helm)

Calc: http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/weaponspeed.php?lang=english

EDIT: Checked it myself dude...the 60%IAS from bow /w Shael + 30%IAS from circlet is a 9 Frame attack so go ahead and put what you like in the sockets...to reach 8 frame you need 147%IAS so good luck with that one if you want to be super speedy...might need that Cat's Eye after all...

Hector
21-03-2007, 21:55
you should get a faith bow and give it to an act1 rogue mercenary that way your mavina ama may will be able to reach max speed

Well I thought of this as well, but if he had a Faith, it would probably be much better to use it on the zon herself, no? :laugh:

Unless of course this is a themed Mavina character, and then yes Faith would be probably optimal for the merc (or Might merc + Pride).

HobbesAC
21-03-2007, 22:33
Well I thought of this as well, but if he had a Faith, it would probably be much better to use it on the zon herself, no? :laugh:

Unless of course this is a themed Mavina character, and then yes Faith would be probably optimal for the merc (or Might merc + Pride).

i like act1 mercenary more because she can survive diablo runs and baal runs because of these ironmaiden casting mages. the faith merc mavina ama is just something i would do for fun and is probably quite effective in pvm

ThomasJohnsen
22-03-2007, 02:09
Here's what I did!

Shael in bow (+20IAS), 15IAS in Tiara and Armor thus reaching the Magic 120IAS limit for a 2 frame strafe arrow (30 Tiara + 40 Bow + 20 + 15 + 15).

And boy is she fast now. :grin:

Crushing blow from Gores helps a tad on the poor dmg. output and so does Atma's. Will still need to stock up on dmg. charms.

But she can easily solo Baal on hell and prob the minor übers as well (exept maybe Lilith who seems to kill merc and valk extremely fast with that nasty poison). I have yet to try her alone against all the übers.

Thank you all for the tremendous help and all the positive feedback.

...I couldn't have figured this out myself (..or maybe I could but it would've taken ages). A special thanks to MrKaxe who linked me to that excellent calc.

*ThomasJohnsen


EDIT: I prefer to go solo without Merc (as they do seem to die often) and thus the Faith option was discarded.

Bjorgin
22-03-2007, 12:01
You'd be surprised with the act1 merc not dying much at all really. They seem to keep out of the heat and therefore survive quite a bit.

GL with tackling the mini ubers. Lilith is definately the toughest with that evil poison. Although the uber three (trist) is a next to impossible task with a bowy, although it has been done before.

ThomasJohnsen
22-03-2007, 12:50
Good thing I have a friend who plays druid.

He does well as a tank (SoE or Dungo / Leviathan / Jalal) :grin:

Let him take the blows and me the glory. :wink3:

*ThomasJohnsen

HobbesAC
23-03-2007, 02:51
You'd be surprised with the act1 merc not dying much at all really. They seem to keep out of the heat and therefore survive quite a bit.

GL with tackling the mini ubers. Lilith is definately the toughest with that evil poison. Although the uber three (trist) is a next to impossible task with a bowy, although it has been done before.

yep its because rogues are ranged attacker and with a good valkarie and a decoy both your amazon and your mercenary shouldnt take much damage at all and by giving your mercenary a bramble armor with high lvl thorns aura would probably make the combination even better :grin: