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Diabloplayerbsbs
20-03-2007, 20:13
i need help making a strong built barb vs caster char. I can afford all the right gear i just need to know the gear and skills. This is what i got so far:
Helm:ber'ed arreats
Armour:Mp enigma
Rings: raven, wisp, dwarf. (switch when facing certain chars)
Amulet:highlords
boots:treks or gores?
Gloves: dracs or mages?
Weapons: ebotdz & greifz
Belt: tgod vs light chars, arach normally or dungos?
charms: pdscs + max dmg ar lifers + torch + anni
sound good? please comment, i need feedback!! i wanna finish this char before spring break ends :D

Ce Olba
20-03-2007, 21:01
Helm:ber'ed arreats

No. Use Coa with double bers.

Rings: raven, wisp, dwarf. (switch when facing certain chars)

No. Use 2* Ravenfrosts. 2* FCR rings versus casters other than cold-based sorcs.

boots:treks or gores?

No. Triple resistance boots. Gores only where resistances are not needed.

Gloves: dracs or mages?

Trang-oul's or Dracs.

Weapons: ebotdz & greifz

No. GriefZ + BeastZ does more damage, plus you don't need the +stats from EBotdZ.

Belt: tgod vs light chars, arach normally or dungos?

No. Arachnid 99% of the time. STR belt when using Fortitude, TGod's when facing fohers or mages.

charms: pdscs + max dmg ar lifers + torch + anni

No. Pdscs are crap, absolute crap. Max/ar/lifers are debatable, but overall using 10* max/ar/lifers, 10*ar/lifers, 4* fhr scs, annihilus and torch with the rest being either life/mana or life/resistances depending on situation and preferance.

Here's a quick read-through of a basic BvC:

Stats:
lvl >=90
63 str (if +40 from anni+torch)
47 dexterity (if +40 from anni+torch)
rest vitality

Skills:
20 Leap
20 WW
20 Axe Mastery
20 Bo
5 Nat Res
5-6 Inc Speed
Rest Shout

Pub Gear:

CoA 'BerBer'
Enigma
GriefZ 34/xxx
BeastZ xxx%/+>=36
Arachnid's Mesh
2x Ravenfrosts with 18-20 dex and 240-250 ar
Draculs with 15 str
Triple or double resistance boots with frw and str or dex. In case of double resistances, these resistances should be Fire and Lightning. With Triple Fire, Lightning and Cold.
Highlord's Wrath
2x Dooms

Stash gear:
Fortitude
Widowmaker 'Hel'
2x Angelic rings
1x Angelic amulet
2x fcr rings with >60 mana
Demonlimb
Kiras
Lightning Stack (4 ort armor, 19-20/1x's)
TGod's
Life Tap Wand
Treachery
Hotspurs
Trang Gloves
Arreat's 'ed/ias'

Charms:
Optimal: 33x max/ar/life scs (only if perfect), 4x fhr/allres scs, Annihilus with 20 stats, torch with 20 stats
Very Good: 33x ar/life scs, 4x fhr/resi scs, Annihilus with 19-20 stats, torch with 19-20 stats.
Good: >20x ar/life scs, 4x fhr scs, Annihilus with >15 stats, torch with >15 stats, the spare spots you have you should fill with plain 20 life scs or 20/17s or 20/11s.
Decent: 3x ar/life gcs (13x/3x), 4x fhr scs, rest 20 life scs, torch+anni total stats >30
Poor: None
Very Poor: None
Extreamly Poor: NONE!

Things you want to achieve:
10k ar with the Pub Setup mentioned
>6000 life
20 fcr with pubsetup, 40% fcr available when needed
all res 75
40% frw from Inc speed
Enough lightning resistances to negate a foher when needed
48% fhr breakpoint hit

Diabloplayerbsbs
21-03-2007, 19:29
gotcha thanks so much!!!!!!

Diabloplayerbsbs
21-03-2007, 19:30
but about skills you said 20 to leap, leap or leap attack?

Ce Olba
21-03-2007, 19:37
but about skills you said 20 to leap, leap or leap attack?

The regular Leap, not Leap Attack. And 20 is actually quite a random number. You can use 14 or 20, whichever you prefer. Just notice that adding the 6 points into Shout won't have much of a change, merely, at most, a couple of thousands in defense.

Fishmonger
22-03-2007, 15:00
i need help making a strong built barb vs caster char.
Helm:ber'ed arreats


???

No. Use Coa with double bers.


??????

Since when were ber runes needed for a barb vs caster build.

Ce Olba
22-03-2007, 15:11
Since when were ber runes needed for a barb vs caster build.

Wind druids do physical damage. And it reaches around 6.6k. Not nice to receive that with a mere 8% DR. Would end up as 1032 damage per hit. Not cool. So, you use 2* Bers in CoA to reach 26 - 31% DR, to reduce that to at least 830 per hit, at best 774 per hit. A huge difference.

Also, stuff like Smiters, Bowazons, WWsins and whatnot deal physical damage. And yes, BvCs are supposed to beat those. You are taking the C in the name too literally, it doesn't mean that they will only duel casters, it's just that they are more oriented in beating casters than the other barbarians.

Fishmonger
22-03-2007, 15:25
ah thanks for that :)