PVP Smiter (GOOD MANNER)

[ghetto booty]

Ive used this build on my lvl 86 smiter for a while and the only people to beat me are higher levels wiht same build and more life, tappers, or bm/desynchers.
I also use charge for casters instead of putting stats into defiance.
O yeah, im mainly smite vs smite.

Skillz-
20 fanat
20 smite
20 holy shield
20 charge (for other duelers)
rest into vigor (to move fast and up charge)
1 into salv aura (for casters)
8 points into prereqs

Stats-
str-none
dex-none
vita-all
energy-none

I dont not put any into dex because i dont care about max block... im smite vs smite.

main gear-
armor-mp enigma (low str req, life, str, skillz, fwr... its engima dude...)
helm-ber'd shako (life, 18dr, skills, lil stats, mana)
weapon-berzerker axe grief (zerker cause i dont wanna waste dex on gettin a pb and for charging)
shield- up'd ber'd hoz (ber for dr...hoz is a great shield)
boots-treks (for the vitality, str, and fhr is good too)
belt-dungos (fhr, dr, vita)
gloves-CLEGLAWS (this is in question to many people, some use bloodfists or crafted gloves, but cleglaws have 25% slow to target, this is very good cause u wanna make ur opponent slower, then u get more hits than him :azn: )
ring #1-bk (life and skills)
ring #2-bk (life and skills)
ammy-highlords (skill and 20ias backs me up for any ias i miss from gloves)
2nd weapon-6bo cta (duh... more life and mana)
2nd shield-low str paly only spirit shield (2 skills for bo)

inventory-
ptorch
anni
37x 20life scs (try to get some with resists or fhr too)

in my stash i have other gear-
45 res 1.5k def eth vortex exile.
dracs.
lwz.
guils.
15ias 15res'd shako.
maras.

the first 4 here are for ubering if i feel like it, gives me 100% cb and super life tap.

the last 2 are for casters (mainly sorces). i put on the shako and maras because they boost my resists a ton and i dont need the ias so much becaue i will use charge. also, i use salvation aura to make sure i have a ton of resists to be taken away from sorces gear or w/e.

with all this gear i have over 5k hp and with grief's dmg factored in i do over 8k dmg.

some of this all may draw questions so i want your feedback and critisism. You also want to get the highest possible stats on this gear, i have to have a high anni, ptorch, treks, and stuff to be able to have enough strength and dexterity for grief and hoz.

[Bjorgin]

Oh wait, is this a guide? Or are you just showing off your pally?

[kingdryland]

You seem to be using cleglaws that give slow. I don't get what is exactly good mannered about this, since most people think it is bm. I think that especially in pubbies everything goes and the best survives though...

Do you have a setup that grants at least 70% block,decent defense and high dr%? If not what do you do against good barbs? Your berserker axe is an invitation to be slowed down by doom.
You don't have cbf which is "doh" especially when you are using a berserker grief.
For trappers try to get 86% fhr. You may be able to use charge to escape stun but fhr does help against them.

Versatility>huge life

[ghetto booty]

Oh wait, is this a guide? Or are you just showing off your pally?

yes... this is my guide. it is what i recoment for a good smiter and what is on my smiter.

You seem to be using cleglaws that give slow. I don't get what is exactly good mannered about this, since most people think it is bm. I think that especially in pubbies everything goes and the best survives though...

Do you have a setup that grants at least 70% block,decent defense and high dr%? If not what do you do against good barbs? Your berserker axe is an invitation to be slowed down by doom.
You don't have cbf which is "doh" especially when you are using a berserker grief.
For trappers try to get 86% fhr. You may be able to use charge to escape stun but fhr does help against them.

Versatility>huge life

slowing opponent with ur gear is not bm, things that have a chance to pwn is bm and desynching people is bm. if u dont like slowing them, i sujest good crafted heavy gloves that give 20ias, 20life, and 10cb (and u can use maras). but then again, things are constantly being questioned whether they should are bm or gm.
this is SMITE VS SMITE build, not meant for against others necesarilly, but wiht salv and the res gear, every1 except barbs are ez for me. if u are looking for a smiter vs all build, just add dex until u have max block.:wink3: with past smiters i find that haveing a pb and max block is alot better against barbs but i dont have a guide for a smite vs all sry.

[kingdryland]

In that case, a pb smiter that uses clegs/arach could possibly make you lose 2fpa and put you in disadvantage.

[Uncle_Mike]

I am surprised that you did not mention holy freeze - IMO SvS is a lot about aura flashing :smiley:

[kingdryland]

I am surprised that you did not mention holy freeze - IMO SvS is a lot about aura flashing :smiley:

Well this thread is peculiar. He said good mannered and at the same time he uses slow ,so I could just as well go and mention freeze, yes.

[ghetto booty]

hmm, never thought about using freeze aura before contact to get them slowed for a few seconds. kinda cheap but thats a great idea.

[Ce Olba]

with all this gear i have over 5k hp and with grief's dmg factored in i do over 8k dmg.

Unless Grief's damage is calculated in a different manner, you are wrong.
(46 + 400 + 58.5)*(1+3+3.73+1.41)
504.5 * 9.14
4611.13

That's what I could get as the average damage. As for maximum, this:

(46 + 400 + 60) * 9.14
506 * 9.14
4624.84

With a Fortitude, you would have a couple of thousands more, but you still wouldn't reach 8000.

Also, please stop with the "over 5k life"-stuff. At your level, you shouldn't have 5000 life, unless you are lying about your items.

(85 * 5 + 15) * 3) + 55 + 60 + 170 + 740) * 1.88) + 180 + 160 + 45 + 45 + 45 + 6 + 160
[((425* 3) + 1025) * 1.88] + 641
[2300 * 1.88] + 641
4324 + 641
4965

How is that "over 5000"?

However, I somehow don't buy you being lvl 99 with perfect items. At lvl 90 you would have 5177 life. 54xx at lvl 99.

Also, what happens after you have 20 in Vigor? That happens at lvl 98. Where will the last point go?

[kingdryland]

Olba, can you explain the numbers in your formula precisly? My calculations show me that with his gear (no forti) and a 340 grief he just can't drop below 7k average smite,while with a 39x grief he does have 8k.

[Ce Olba]

Olba, can you explain the numbers in your formula precisly? My calculations show me that with his gear (no forti) and a 340 grief he just can't drop below 7k average smite,while with a 39x grief he does have 8k.

How ironical, I forgot +skills totally. With those, it would look like:

560.5 * (1+ 5.1 + 5.77 + 1.66)
560.5 * 13.53
7583.565

Remember that he only has 166 STR, or so it should be. And that 7583 is with a 400 GriefZ. With a Fortitude it would be 9265.065.

With a 340 Grief he should have 6771.765. The on-weapon damage is not added to Smite's damage, as far as I know, since the shield is the weapon.

[ghetto booty]

im not sure i follow ur math but ill show u mine.

on screen when im buffed it says 2402 dmg (with fanat and holy shield obvioulsy).
then i divide 2402 by 170, (my shield dmg). i get 14.13
i did that to find the number that is multipling my shield's dmg and therefore my grief too because grief's dmg is just like having another shield, or adding it to ur current shield.
so next i muliply the 14.129 by my shield+grief (170+400).
i get 8053.76 dmg.

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i have some stuff to add to gear that i think might be a little better, or at least another option.
blood crafted gloves are another way to go if u dont want to use clegs(cause some people have so much ias the clegs dont make a difference). these crafted gloves can go from 5cb and 10life to 10cb and 20life, as well as adding other qualities. if u get a pair of these gloves with 20ias u can use maras instead of highlords and then have more res and life.
I cant beleive i forgot about these things!

[Gen Miner]

hey i understand that u are a good manner pvp smiter but u are using bk rings. good manner pvp chars dont normally use life leach. granted they give u life but thats what angelic halo's are for correct? not trying to put u down im just confused here lol.

[Uncle_Mike]

hey i understand that u are a good manner pvp smiter but u are using bk rings. good manner pvp chars dont normally use life leach. granted they give u life but thats what angelic halo's are for correct? not trying to put u down im just confused here lol.

Life leech is pretty much worthless in PvP.