View Full Version : Could i get a general layout of what is considered bad manners by most pvp'ers
yetidiah
16-03-2007, 20:20
Please don't put nk or tg theyre both obvious
ThatWasShockin
16-03-2007, 20:35
Other then the 2 you just stated anything else is fine with me haha.
Lots of people dont like more than 1 piece of Sorb, most necro curses (IM, Tap, and Amp mostly), Slows Target, and mercs. That's all that comes to mind right now.
jakotaco
16-03-2007, 20:41
big difference on situation. And rules might differ from player to player, and from realm to realm. Worth noting is that few follows such rules anyway.
In public games I would "expect" people not to:
-drink healing pots or antidotes during duels.
-nk
-attack a player already dueling someone else
-attack players of far inferior level
But people do those all the time.
In private duels some additional points might be added
-no mana pots
-do not completely negate your opponent by absorb
-say "go" to make sure both are ready
Some might also add
-no life tap
-no charged items
-no slow
Dont over-absorb, dont drink ( anything), FINISH YOUR DAMN DUEL, dont prebuff and say Go. That pretty much sums it up for me.
Josiphos
16-03-2007, 21:47
Don't we have one of these threads every other day?
It always devolves into argument and insults after page 1 (like most threads in PvP if you ask me)
Try the search function. You'll find 59854564096409568 responses to your question.
If you are using any 3PP to duel then it is BM to many.
Otherwise pot/pre-buff/curse/etc all you want.
Marrowwalks are banned on bone necros (doesn't matter if marrow bug doesn't work anymore they're bm cuzx bp charges)
No potions, shrines, wells, mercs, or leaving the moor
NO TELEPORT. This includes charges on items, enigma, AND the sorceress skill. Dragon Flight IS allowed. Enigma can still be worn, but the teleport skill cannot be used. Honestly, cross class skills are bm k
NO use of any skill on CALL TO ARMS. Only barbarians may use BO, shout, or battle command. Barbarians may use CTA to boost their BO if they wish. Only pussies duel with bo.
Off Class Skills other than oak, bo, and teleport ARE allowed unless otherwise stated. I know this doesn't make sense, but deal with it.
NO use of OAK SAGE unless you are a Druid. K?
NO use of BONE PRISON. INCLUDING CHARGES
a. Necros may not use the following skills in any form:
i. BONE SPIRIT (in team duels)
ii. Bone Prison
iii. Amplify Damage
iv. Decrepify
v. Clay Golem
b. Necros MAY use Lower resist and Life tap (no other class can).
c. Bone Necros may have a maximum of 18% DR and NO max resist or absorb items other than 1 ravenfrost and Waterwalks.
B/C EVEN THO THEY SHOULDN'T TELEPORT THEY STILL MENI OVERPOWARD
a. Sorcs may not use the following skills in any form:
i. Teleport
SORB AL LYOU WANT K
AND FOLOW ABOVE GIDELINES
AND U WIN
Swerdlow
16-03-2007, 23:39
ignore camden hes bad esp. at smiters
ignore camden hes bad esp. at smiters
LOL WHO IS THIS
poroboszcz
17-03-2007, 01:46
Teleport on sorc is BM? So what she should tank?? Also why prebuff is BM? I guess some builds have even that 1 point from BC included to work well. Is it only cta or assa casting venom with some +venom claws on switch is also BM? Is bo on barb BM then? Mana pots? Cmon, everyone drinks them ;) I've once heard that fade on my assa is BM, cuz "it makes her live 2 times longer" and that TS on my lld assa is BM cuz "anyone can win with that skill"... :shocked:
Yes teleport on sorc is bm n00b duh
tinncann25
17-03-2007, 02:55
Marrowwalks are banned on bone necros (doesn't matter if marrow bug doesn't work anymore they're bm cuzx bp charges)
No potions, shrines, wells, mercs, or leaving the moor
NO TELEPORT. This includes charges on items, enigma, AND the sorceress skill. Dragon Flight IS allowed. Enigma can still be worn, but the teleport skill cannot be used. Honestly, cross class skills are bm k
NO use of any skill on CALL TO ARMS. Only barbarians may use BO, shout, or battle command. Barbarians may use CTA to boost their BO if they wish. Only pussies duel with bo.
Off Class Skills other than oak, bo, and teleport ARE allowed unless otherwise stated. I know this doesn't make sense, but deal with it.
NO use of OAK SAGE unless you are a Druid. K?
NO use of BONE PRISON. INCLUDING CHARGES
a. Necros may not use the following skills in any form:
i. BONE SPIRIT (in team duels)
ii. Bone Prison
iii. Amplify Damage
iv. Decrepify
v. Clay Golem
b. Necros MAY use Lower resist and Life tap (no other class can).
c. Bone Necros may have a maximum of 18% DR and NO max resist or absorb items other than 1 ravenfrost and Waterwalks.
B/C EVEN THO THEY SHOULDN'T TELEPORT THEY STILL MENI OVERPOWARD
a. Sorcs may not use the following skills in any form:
i. Teleport
SORB AL LYOU WANT K
AND FOLOW ABOVE GIDELINES
AND U WIN
Next time you duel me, you should follow ur rules =P
MysticDragon
17-03-2007, 03:04
Next time you duel me, you should follow ur rules =P
These are clan honor rules, not his.
is clan honor what 76legit turned into from 09? rules sound very similar
jesterlolz
17-03-2007, 17:01
Bad Manners in duels is very much like bad manners in real life. First of all, don't just try to be a jack*** to your opponent. If, when they lose, you don't need to say gg if it wasn't, but theres no need to rub it in their faces (i.e.: z0mg r3m4k3 ch4r plxx tyty). And if you lose, don't say they spend all their time playing bnet and that they are an emo freak who should burn in hell. (Sorry, I just really hate when people do this type of stuff to me, and I don't think other people like it either).
While dueling, pretty much doing stuff to get a very unfair advantage is considered bm. Like, against a character with no teleportation ability, slowing them to less than a walk while they are running is usually considered bm. Against sorceresses, if you get 95% resistances, and 40% absorb, usually they will do little to no damage on you. 85% resistances and 20% absorb is usually fine with most people, and I personally am fine with 95% res and 20% absorb.
Complaining that a main skill or strategy is illegal is generally considered bm. For example, I hate smite, and think its the most broken skill in the game, but I don't yell that they have to use zeal or something. Also, saying that playing defensively is bm is also kinda annoying. A smiter told my rabies fury wolf that I'm not allowed to run and then shift fury - I'm supposed to click on him and hold, then just wait until he mauls me.
Just try not to get the other person angry. Its a lot less fun dueling a dick than dueling a nice guy.
mephiztophelez
18-03-2007, 03:47
my $0.02, the only really universally "bm" things you can do in a pub game are:
1: useing a hack
2: dropping juve or healing pots
3: nk'ing
and to a lesser extent:
4: townguarding (you can always WP to cold-plains)
5: massive sorb stack (although please note: stacking sorb/res vs an AA-Blizzy sosa or an FC zon is all perfectly fair and reasonable imho)
elope with me
18-03-2007, 04:15
Teleport on sorc is BM? So what she should tank?? Also why prebuff is BM? I guess some builds have even that 1 point from BC included to work well. Is it only cta or assa casting venom with some +venom claws on switch is also BM? Is bo on barb BM then? Mana pots? Cmon, everyone drinks them ;) I've once heard that fade on my assa is BM, cuz "it makes her live 2 times longer" and that TS on my lld assa is BM cuz "anyone can win with that skill"... :shocked:
If you didn't get that he was joking after the first one...
Marrowwalks are banned on bone necros (doesn't matter if marrow bug doesn't work anymore they're bm cuzx bp charges)
then I don't even know what you need to do.
my $0.02, the only really universally "bm" things you can do in a pub game are:
1: useing a hack
2: dropping juve or healing pots
3: nk'ing
and to a lesser extent:
4: townguarding (you can always WP to cold-plains)
5: massive sorb stack (although please note: stacking sorb/res vs an AA-Blizzy sosa or an FC zon is all perfectly fair and reasonable imho)
If they dropped them, they obviously didn't use 'em. ^_~
mephiztophelez
18-03-2007, 06:49
If they dropped them, they obviously didn't use 'em. ^_~
sorry, i worded poorly. my apologies.
i meant "dropping" as in "drinking", not as in fall to the ground when they die. in any one-hit-kill situation, they may full well have intended to use them. besides, why carry juves in a duelling game? or more specifically, why carry more than one juve in a duelling game. one juve, it could be argued, is "defence against gankage". keep spares in your stash, not in your belt.
i should add es sorcs that drop mana pots, either translation works.
Marrowwalks are banned on bone necros (doesn't matter if marrow bug doesn't work anymore they're bm cuzx bp charges)
No potions, shrines, wells, mercs, or leaving the moor
NO TELEPORT. This includes charges on items, enigma, AND the sorceress skill. Dragon Flight IS allowed. Enigma can still be worn, but the teleport skill cannot be used. Honestly, cross class skills are bm k
NO use of any skill on CALL TO ARMS. Only barbarians may use BO, shout, or battle command. Barbarians may use CTA to boost their BO if they wish. Only pussies duel with bo.
Off Class Skills other than oak, bo, and teleport ARE allowed unless otherwise stated. I know this doesn't make sense, but deal with it.
NO use of OAK SAGE unless you are a Druid. K?
NO use of BONE PRISON. INCLUDING CHARGES
a. Necros may not use the following skills in any form:
i. BONE SPIRIT (in team duels)
ii. Bone Prison
iii. Amplify Damage
iv. Decrepify
v. Clay Golem
b. Necros MAY use Lower resist and Life tap (no other class can).
c. Bone Necros may have a maximum of 18% DR and NO max resist or absorb items other than 1 ravenfrost and Waterwalks.
B/C EVEN THO THEY SHOULDN'T TELEPORT THEY STILL MENI OVERPOWARD
a. Sorcs may not use the following skills in any form:
i. Teleport
SORB AL LYOU WANT K
AND FOLOW ABOVE GIDELINES
AND U WIN
"Could i get a general layout of what is considered bad manners by most pvp'ers"
general not specific for a clan/realm/server/completly your own opinions.
Health pots/rejuvs
stacking to much sorb
interfering with others duels unless clearly stated as all vs all ect
all I can think of atm
Uncle_Mike
18-03-2007, 09:10
Could i get a general layout of what is considered bad manners by most pvp'ers
general not specific for a clan/realm/server/completly your own opinions.
He was joking :wink:
He was joking :wink:
oops, hmm, wonder why I didn't see the second page at all :laugh: :embarassed:
:jig: I'm innocent!
Speedasin
18-03-2007, 16:50
I'd be screwed with that mana pot rule, I'd run out of mana so damn fast. Unless you use ES, mana pots are cool with me.
What's the general feeling on a player bringing in a decked out merc? I'd say that is BM.
Josiphos
18-03-2007, 18:28
I'd be screwed with that mana pot rule, I'd run out of mana so damn fast. Unless you use ES, mana pots are cool with me.
What's the general feeling on a player bringing in a decked out merc? I'd say that is BM.
I make it a point to kill their merc and then tele to town. Repeat until they run out of gold.
I'll even suicide myself to kill their merc if I have to. It really burns me.
CaptnSparrow
18-03-2007, 21:19
No Merc
No Heal (includes Life Tap)
No Oversorb
No HF to Bowzons
No Item Charges
No Prebuffing
No Teaming on single player
No Naked Killing
No Town Gaurding
No Third Party Program
No Save/Exit games (debatable... it's just annoying)
I think that covers the majority of what I'd expect not to see in a GM game.
mephiztophelez
19-03-2007, 00:27
What's the general feeling on a player bringing in a decked out merc? I'd say that is BM.
my feeling is merc's are a crutch used by the clueless & skill'less. someone who continually revives their merc should be NK'd until they run out of gold.
MysticDragon
19-03-2007, 03:10
my feeling is merc's are a crutch used by the clueless & skill'less. someone who continually revives their merc should be NK'd until they run out of gold.
My feeling is that whoever takes my gold should get theirs taken as well.
mephiztophelez
19-03-2007, 05:01
My feeling is that whoever takes my gold should get theirs taken as well.
gold jacking in a pub is NOT bm imho. if you don't want your gold to get jacked, go stash is somewhere or gamble it off before you start. any gold dropped is fair game imho.
Smithenator
19-03-2007, 05:08
Generally just dont nk, tg, or over absorb.
On the subject of gold stealing: My claw costs the better part of 2 million at broken to repair, so if someone takes my gold twice I am prone to nking them into nothingness, but thats just me.
mephiztophelez
19-03-2007, 06:41
ooof, someone used a superior claw with +e-durability on it?
mah palla's armour costs 1.5mil to repair from broken.
Dennis_KoreanGuy
19-03-2007, 15:52
BM, or more widely known as the Big Monkey to the western world, is a creature that resemble a monkey but of greatly outgrown proportion, to that equivalent of a dinosaur. Believed to have come to an existence on March 19th 2007, this great big monkey-like beast roams around the globe feasting on powermetal haters.
If you want to know more about this incredible phenomenon, then I suggest you join myspace. And then give yourself a nice full glass of gin and milk. How would joining myspace and drinking gin and milk help you understand this madness, you ask? I don't know.
Uncle_Mike
19-03-2007, 16:29
BM, or more widely known as the Big Monkey to the western world, is a creature that resemble a monkey but of greatly outgrown proportion, to that equivalent of a dinosaur. Believed to have come to an existence on March 19th 2007, this great big monkey-like beast roams around the globe feasting on powermetal haters.
If you want to know more about this incredible phenomenon, then I suggest you join myspace. And then give yourself a nice full glass of gin and milk. How would joining myspace and drinking gin and milk help you understand this madness, you ask? I don't know.
Not sure if I want to smoke the thing you have been smoking Dennis :rolleyes:
Perhaps the Big Monkey is a better conclusion to the thread than the usual flamewars that follow any GM/BM threads...
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