easy dueler

[unhatchedxEgg]

i played diablo 2 lod for about 2 years, and just got back on about a week or 2 ago. now im looking for a simple and easy-2-use pvp and pvm character. i had past expirence with a good fire sorc, but ive noticed that sorbing and stacked resists are key parts in builds nowdays. im well aware that hammerdins are the best all around characters, but i could never amount to anything while in pvp's with my 89 hdin.

which one of these would be best to start with? funding is not the problem. ive got that covered, so i can buy all the gear and charms necessary for these builds

meteorb sorc
Fire sorc
Blizz sorc
Wind druid
Fury druid
Whirlwind barb
Bone Necro
dream pally

im looking forward to making some elemental duelers, but i guess i have to research a bit and find a way around the sorbers/stacked resists, but if u could inform me now...it would be great :jig:

[mainaman]

you can never have one pvp char and be able to counter any other char class.Therefore it is a good idea to have 2 chars at your disposal at minimum.
I think ghost sin/Bone necro is a good combo, and If you have a hammerdin too then you pretty much have the 3 chars that can take on anything in the game if played well.

[DoC-Makaveli]

fury druid is nice, but fury/rabies hybrid is better all around... they still aren't very good against good hammerdins

ghost sin has a chance to beat every class as does ww/zerk barb

necro is strong, but high es / bmana sorcs are sort of hard...

blizzers are strong, but practically useless if your opponents have enough stack res

wind druid has a chance against everything, trappers/fbers can be difficult

meteorb is bad pvp

fire sorc is good, but may have trouble vs sorb

dream pally can be fun, especially in teams, but hard vs melee/smiters with res. and against some chars you can be reduced to charging around in circles. stack res can be a problem, but you could use a grief for some physical damage

[unhatchedxEgg]

ok thanks...but wuts a ghost sin, BvC, BvM, BM..havent played in a year and not familiarized with all the terms again.

[yelopen]

ok thanks...but wuts a ghost sin, BvC, BvM, BM..havent played in a year and not familiarized with all the terms again.

BvC is a barbarian vs caster.
Ghost sin I believe is any WW sin? I don't know, but I play one ^^
BvM isn't a real term I believe.
BM is bad mannered.

Check guides for guides on any build you may want to make.



EDIT- Btw, I'd say a ghost and BvC are relatively hard to use, especially for beginners. I don't know about Bone Necs though, never had one before.

[unhatchedxEgg]

BvC is a barbarian vs caster.
Ghost sin I believe is any WW sin? I don't know, but I play one ^^
BvM isn't a real term I believe.
BM is bad mannered.

Check guides for guides on any build you may want to make.



EDIT- Btw, I'd say a ghost and BvC are relatively hard to use, especially for beginners. I don't know about Bone Necs though, never had one before.

ah i see...and ive had pretty much every character before cept zons, smiters, and fire druids. i recall that i was pretty good with a bone necro, but sudenly i was obsolete coz every1 started getting rich and i didnt. but now money is not the problem ^^ guess ill make a ww sin and bone necro, although i want a poison necro but to much stacked resists now, had one and it did up to like 60k dmg with some atk i 4get, 30k with the nova, but in poison terms i believe the 60k is useless since that atack isnt used in duels

[CaptnSparrow]

Ghost sin = Assassin that uses Enigma and Chaos runewords along with the 65 faster cast rate breakpoint. Puts most points in Shadow Skill trees and 1 point into traps. Also uses enough points in Dragon Talon to get 4 or so kicks per use.


Main source of damage is Venom and Open Wounds. Uses high level Mind Blast with traps to constantly stun opponent and setup for whirlwinds and/or Kicks.




There's a quick summary. Other variations are WW/trap which won't be maxing things like Mind blast/Claw mastery/etc and invests in traps and synergies instead.

[Ce Olba]

i played diablo 2 lod for about 2 years, and just got back on about a week or 2 ago. now im looking for a simple and easy-2-use pvp and pvm character.

Where's the fun if everything is easy? Don't those challenges keep your life lively? Somehow people who want to take things easy bring up a picture of a fat guy watching anime and eating chips to my mind.

meteorb sorc

Not a PvP-viable character.

Fire sorc

Not easy to use and not too viable unless excessive funds, such as high-end life/mana scs (with stats of >30-35)

Blizz sorc

Not that easy to use but might be fun, as long as you won't go around screaming about dual ravens when you have that -260 CR.

Wind druid

Not easy to use and takes quite some funds.

Fury druid

Definately not easy to use, takes excessive funds and even then it's not going to be that much of fun unless you are like Kiba or Stoute.

Whirlwind barb

Nope. Not easy to use and takes pretty damn hellish funds.

Bone Necro

Not easy to use but not that expensive either.

dream pally

The easiest to use but also the one with the lowest win-ratio of all the options.

i want a poison necro but to much stacked resists now, had one and it did up to like 60k dmg with some atk i 4get, 30k with the nova, but in poison terms i believe the 60k is useless since that atack isnt used in duels

Sorry to disappoint you, but I made a 100% perfect Novamancer on open and it did 10 or 11k damage on-screen with +35%ish poison damage, for a total of ~13k. So, 30k is not gong to happen. You would need +200% poison damage for that, not possible.

[bluewiind]

Where's the fun if everything is easy? Don't those challenges keep your life lively? Somehow people who want to take things easy bring up a picture of a fat guy watching anime and eating chips to my mind.



Not a PvP-viable character.



Not easy to use and not too viable unless excessive funds, such as high-end life/mana scs (with stats of >30-35)



Not that easy to use but might be fun, as long as you won't go around screaming about dual ravens when you have that -260 CR.



Not easy to use and takes quite some funds.



Definately not easy to use, takes excessive funds and even then it's not going to be that much of fun unless you are like Kiba or Stoute.



Nope. Not easy to use and takes pretty damn hellish funds.



Not easy to use but not that expensive either.



The easiest to use but also the one with the lowest win-ratio of all the options.



Sorry to disappoint you, but I made a 100% perfect Novamancer on open and it did 10 or 11k damage on-screen with +35%ish poison damage, for a total of ~13k. So, 30k is not gong to happen. You would need +200% poison damage for that, not possible.

hmm, according to the above, stop playing d2 again, lol. Try hammerdin, even if made cheaply they are quite effective and are one of the easier chars to duel with. However all dueling requires skill and of course top gear will produce higher damage.

[Dennis_KoreanGuy]

Hammerdin

the easiest cheapest viable pvp / pvm versatile character in the game.

[Ce Olba]

hmm, according to the above, stop playing d2 again, lol. Try hammerdin, even if made cheaply they are quite effective and are one of the easier chars to duel with. However all dueling requires skill and of course top gear will produce higher damage.

Sorry, you are wrong. I geared my old hammerdin with pretty welfarish gear indeed (random stuff like cta's, enigmas, hotos, hoz's pala torches and whatnot) but I didn't like the results. And no, I wouldn't call stuff like cta's, enigmas (mine's a superior Archon one that's almost perfect), hotos, eth hoz's, pala torches and whatnot cheap. Indeed, a hammerdin is a good character to mess around with, but to have a chance versus someone with any skill, you will need both skill and gear.

However it could just be the fact that I've never liked hammerdins. And yes, I did play a hammerdin in PvM with no enigma in 1.10 with Hoto being my best item at the time. And yes, I could pretty much solo PvM with him.

[Kijya]

I find that pure trappers are easy to play, at least that's what I've been most successful with. But if they sorb you're dead ofc. WW hybrids get around the sorbers but are harder too play well.

[TFreshStyle]

If you are just starting diablo I would recomend a fire sorc, even nacked with skills put in the right place you do 6-8k and it only goes up, + the potencial for mf gear withough hindering ur kill speed. for fire immune monsters use act 2 merc, you can buy gear from merchants that will make him do like 3000 or just give him bonehew(ez to find) and he will do 7000 damage so you for the most part anything in the game. +++++You dont need enigma to tele around+++++
If your dueling just stay away from ppl and spam, your just s.o.l. if they sorb. all the other chars u listed i see as worthless, besides the other sorcs.

windy droo would be second but still has expensive gear, if you want him good. For starting: best bet for decent dueler. but sucks for pvm because hard to get merc to do ele damage to kill immunes and huricane can only do so much damage.

Best for pvp would be necro, get him good gear and learn to use him and you will tank most ppl.<damage is unresistable

[superjayson]

Just pick a char you like.
Who cares if you dont have the funds or skill for it. Part of the struggle to achieve all that is 50% of the fun in the game.

[order]

i wouldnt not suggest a hammer for your first build after 2yrs of not playing. it can be hard getting the proper dueling mechanics down.

i think a fb sorc (using gangel to lower dex req and to stack res and ss) would be a pretty viable option for pvp. my friend has one with around 20-30 vita scs with around 10-12k fb and she does very well in most pvp situations.

[unhatchedxEgg]

wow its been a day...and a few new replies poped up. first of all, ive been off diablo for about 6 months. second of all, i do have funds, i stated that funds are not the problem. finaly, thanks for all the suggested characters. im probably gonna make a bone necro, ww barb, and "ghost sin" i know how to make the necro and barb from prior experience with them, but now im looking forward to making it coz i have the funding now :D

[yelopen]

i wouldnt not suggest a hammer for your first build after 2yrs of not playing. it can be hard getting the proper dueling mechanics down.

i think a fb sorc (using gangel to lower dex req and to stack res and ss) would be a pretty viable option for pvp. my friend has one with around 20-30 vita scs with around 10-12k fb and she does very well in most pvp situations.

Not to butt in, but, that sorc didn't use very many fire GCs? Just Vita SCs? Sounds interesting :grin:

[unhatchedxEgg]

every1 is saying they dont recomend me to start xxx coz im new or not funded but thats the oposite of what im saying. i know my way around, but im a little rusty, and i do have funding. i should have about 160 high runes to use to buy gear and stuff, mayb less mayb more. but ill make a ww barb, bone necro, and ww sin, and an elemental or sumoner character for fun. :)

[Cheesehed]

a well geared skilled hammerdin is beatable but shouldnt get ez pkd 5-0 by anyone, plus they are amazing pvm

[plasmo]

Answering only the title and completely ignoring the post, since I had my answer ready before I read it:

Grizzly-summoning Druid. Stay in town, click outside of town whenever the grizzly dies.

[HappyAssassin]

I think he's looking for a dueler, not a mild annoyance.

I'd go for a smiter. Its extremely easy to learn and kill simple enemies, and it can be a challange to play at a high level as you improve. From you list a Bone Necro might be good as well, simply because it can't be absorbed and is good against almost everything.

[yetidiah]

I like dueling with my bowazon but the gear is sometimes hard to find even if the funding is there

[unhatchedxEgg]

random and no-reason bump~

i've made a fire sorc, light sorc, smiter, bowzon, and working on a bone necro now...i have no i dea why i said some of those things...especially the 160hrs of funding thing...wow...and for the record the fire sorc and bowzon were easy and effective, to me atleast.

once again thanks for all the responses~ ppl are probably gonna get mad at me for randomly bumping :(