not really satisifed with uber druid :/

[swish]

lvl 81

wep: eth zod'd ribcracker 289%
armor: coh/ds fort
helm: um'd guilly's/um'd jalas
ammy: metalgrid
rings: x2 ravens
belt: dungos
gloves: dracs
boots: gores

charms: lot of +ar/+dmg/+life gcs. 10 total, counting large charms as well. Nice ones too.


I'm just not hitting enough ar... i was thinking about switching to angelic ammy/ring and then x1 raven for more ar but then I would be sacrificing res.

I tap meph and he still kills me... plus without grief there is no "prevent monster heal".

[Monopoly]

i realy cant see why you are having problems... with that gear you should pack a nice amount of amd and have a lot of life and ar

[zallus]

swish prevent monster heal doesnt work against the ubers.

The only way to halt the life regen is open wounds

And you should be ok if you switch 2 angelic ammy/ring

[Kilken]

it may not matter too much but is your ribcracker up'd?

you could also try a windhammer or IK maul, i dont know if they would really affect it that much but but can get more ias and around the same CB

also might wanna try Laying of Hands when he get lifetapped, or skip lifetap alltogether for 350% more dmg

[LegionPoth]

it may not matter too much but is your ribcracker up'd?

...


Not that important? Well, Vs ubers maby not, but for life leach it does.

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/exceptional/ustaves.shtml
Vs:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/45910816/

the differance is obvious.

However, when you upgrade an etherial item, it looses its etherial bonus, so keep that in mind.

From the Desk of:
The-3-Sticks

[Bjam]

Two things to note:

1) Upped items do not lose the eth bonus. Armor used to, but that's fixed now. Definitely up the Ribby if you haven't already.

2) Your level is part of the problem. It factors in to your chance to hit. Smiters can ignore this, but you cannot.

More advice:

You are much better off with +ar/life gcs then with +ar/+dmg/+life gcs. Are you pre-buffing with Treachery to boost DR and resists? If not, you should be. I suspect your resists are to low, because you should have enough life to tank Mephy otherwise.

[LegionPoth]

Two things to note:

1) Upped items do not lose the eth bonus. Armor used to, but that's fixed now. Definitely up the Ribby if you haven't already.




there has been no mention of the fix in patch fix history.

From the Desk of:
The-3-Sticks

[Eilo Rytyj]

The problem with eth upped Ribbys is that they only hit 6 frame Fury. Non-eth upped Shael'd Ribby is a 5 frame Fury stick.

I recall reading that a non-eth upped Ribby with a 40/15 is the absolute best in PvM Fury weapons, bar none. It does more DPS than an eth Zod Ribby, it's only vice is that it needs repairing every now and then. So if you can, get a non-eth one instead of an eth one.

[swish]

Yes of course I up'd my ribcracker :/

I hit 15k ar with all my charms with metalgrid/dual ravens. Haven't tried angelics yea.

And to the person who said skip life tap altogether you must not face a lot of ubers... lifetap is very crucial. There's no way I'd surivive without it, in fact I don't survive with it.


I'm still not satisifed, by the time I make this druid uber-viable he'll have to be like lvl 88.

The person who made this guide forgot about one problem... fury attacks nearby enemies as well!! This means if there's those immune to physical spectors and blood lords laying around you won't be able to tap off them, also there is no such thing as a sure hit. My druid hasn't been able to take one uber yet.... I had to bring in my v/t and he did it with ease.. and he's more foh'er than anything.

I'm going to scrap this build and make a pally.

[Kilken]

Not that important? Well, Vs ubers maby not, but for life leach it does.

http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/exceptional/ustaves.shtml
Vs:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/45910816/

the differance is obvious.

However, when you upgrade an etherial item, it looses its etherial bonus, so keep that in mind.

From the Desk of:
The-3-Sticks

that wasnt my point, my point was, what was his problem? not enough leach so he cant do crap, not enough dmg so he should maybe upgrade it if it already wasnt

[Immortal_King]

Wand of level 5 lifetap instead of dracs perhaps?

[Bjam]

Yes of course I up'd my ribcracker :/

I hit 15k ar with all my charms with metalgrid/dual ravens. Haven't tried angelics yea.

And to the person who said skip life tap altogether you must not face a lot of ubers... lifetap is very crucial. There's no way I'd surivive without it, in fact I don't survive with it.


I'm still not satisifed, by the time I make this druid uber-viable he'll have to be like lvl 88.

The person who made this guide forgot about one problem... fury attacks nearby enemies as well!! This means if there's those immune to physical spectors and blood lords laying around you won't be able to tap off them, also there is no such thing as a sure hit. My druid hasn't been able to take one uber yet.... I had to bring in my v/t and he did it with ease.. and he's more foh'er than anything.

I'm going to scrap this build and make a pally.

Nooooooo! Anyone can do them with a Pally, but what's the fun in that. You are missing the whole point. Ah well.

By the way, I made the guide and I know that Fury attacks nearby enemies, which is why you need to use Feral Rage quite a bit. Here's just one excerpt from the guide (from the skills section):

Fury is your main attack of course, but Feral Rage allows you to focus on a single target (critical in Tristam) and build up life leech and faster run/walk.

There is more info later in the guide, where the use of Feral Rage is discussed again.

OK, with my defense out of the way, here's more advice:

15K AR should be more than enough assuming you level up a bit. I first did the Ubers with my Druid at level 85 I think. Reaching level 85 should be very easy (maybe a half dozen Baal runs) so that shouldn't be an obstacle.

Yes, life tap is an absolute must. You will get crushed without it. I even use a wand on switch for extra safety.

If I remember correctly you mentioned using Guillame's or Jalal's, but you need to make sure you have some added FHR if you use Guillame's. IMO, you already have sufficient CB and are better off using Jalal's (it has better mods for the task at hand).

P.S. This is post 1K. I'm glad it's in the Druid forum.

[superjayson]

I've seen fury druids do ubers and be successful.
Do you realize this build isnt built like a smiter ? As successful as this build can be for ubers it wont kill like a smiter. It's not over powered like that.
If you change your mind I'm sure people here will help you, if not have fun making a smiter like the rest of battle.net

[swish]

Wand of level 5 lifetap instead of dracs perhaps?

Yes i have this, i have a kris of lifetap as well (106 charges)



By the way, I made the guide and I know that Fury attacks nearby enemies, which is why you need to use Feral Rage quite a bit. Here's just one excerpt from the guide (from the skills section):

Fury is your main attack of course, but Feral Rage allows you to focus on a single target (critical in Tristam) and build up life leech and faster run/walk.


yes i know this, and i do use feral rage on the bosses. I still get killed.


I have played a lot of builds and I have been playing for a long time. I am definitely not a noob when it comes to building chars and I also realize that a guide is called a guide for a reason.

This build imo just doesn't cut it.

Every suggestion you guys have given me I have tried. I'm sorry I just don't see how this build is viable.

[swish]

If you change your mind I'm sure people here will help you, if not have fun making a smiter like the rest of battle.net

Okay like I'm sure you've never made a cookie cutter build?

And please don't criticize me just because I don't like a build that you like. I'm sure you dislike some builds that I like. IMO you need to grow up... I have acted like an adult about this particular build giving my own reason to why it is not viable. I want to hear something more than "omg don't go with smiters because they are too common"

well 1. they are common for a reason

and 2. every character is unique to the individual, I may choose to use different gear or maybe even totally different stats/skills, you never know.

[superjayson]

Okay like I'm sure you've never made a cookie cutter build?

And please don't criticize me just because I don't like a build that you like. I'm sure you dislike some builds that I like. IMO you need to grow up... I have acted like an adult about this particular build giving my own reason to why it is not viable. I want to hear something more than "omg don't go with smiters because they are too common"

well 1. they are common for a reason

and 2. every character is unique to the individual, I may choose to use different gear or maybe even totally different stats/skills, you never know.

I'm not trying to criticize you, at least not on purpose. I felt like you were giving up on the build too early or not playing it right, but if you feel like making a paladin (like the rest of b.net, just simple fact not me criticizing you) then you're more than free to do so with no harsh feelings.
Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression.

[hookserdoo]

Just curious... not that it matters in Trist because he'll die, but have you considered a blessed aim merc for a little AR boost? You could also toss a couple extra skill points in werewolf for more AR, too.

Bjam's point about using feral rage to attack single monsters is well-taken.

I happen to be working on a fury druid of my own, though I'm trying to balance him with a bit of general PvM ability and so spreading my skills a little thin in some places.

Currently level 77 with the following setup:

Helm: Jalal w/ 15% resist jewel
Main weapon: Upped ribby w/ shael (can't recall ED atm)
Armor: Fort - will eventually switch to a COH once I locate a suitable armor
Boots: Aldur - I love the r/w and fire resist - may go gores, may not
Gloves: LoH - will eventually get dracs
Belt: Verdungo
Amulet: Telling of Beads - will switch to metalgrid
Rings: Raven and some random rare with AR/mana steal

Switch: Baranar's to help deal with phys immunes - will go azurewrath later
Switch: Gerke's - good blocking and resists

Damage between 3k and 4.2k, AR pushing 17k

[Bjam]

You never mentioned whether or not you are using Treachery for pre-buff. What are your resists after taking Mephy's aura into account (-125%)?

Your gear is otherwise excellent, so I must revert to the question of resists since I can't pinpoint another weakness. If you aren't using an anni or torch either, then you will really be hurting for resists.

[kingdryland]

Try to stack light (and perhaps cold) resists, mephisto will hurt much less this way. Also not that If you don't hit too often, you had better keep gores and dracs on, for 35% ctc open wounds. Smiters connect all the time so basically even 10% ow from gores is enough for them, but when you use a char that is ar based like a fury druid it is wise to maintain a higher chance to cast ow, so you increase your chances to keep ubers bleeding constantly.

[swish]

I'm not trying to criticize you, at least not on purpose. I felt like you were giving up on the build too early or not playing it right, but if you feel like making a paladin (like the rest of b.net, just simple fact not me criticizing you) then you're more than free to do so with no harsh feelings.
Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression.

Well please rethink your suggestions before you post. Not to sound smug but I usually have little difficulty mastering a build. (I play v/t as my main pvp... grr I need more hotkeys) Especially a cookie cutter fury druid. The skill distrubtion for this build is so easy a child could master it.


So with that said thanks for the suggestions guys!

Bjam: No I'm not using a prebuff. IMO if I have to prebuff a char just to pvm then I don't think it's worth it to invest my time in that particular char. This may seem like me giving up to some people but isn't lvl 81 close enough to a completed character? This druid doesn't feel close to complete.

Hooker: Mercs get owned in ubers... it would be pointless to invest into a blessed aim merc because he would die within seconds of reaching tristam.

[superjayson]

lalalalalla good luck with the build

[naturebunns]

of course, I still have my zod glitched ribcracker

edit: omg, wtf?

I lost like over 2k posts

[StealthBlade]

If your problem is strickly AR, a demon limb will solve your problems pretty nicely. THe lvl 20 something Enchant really boosts your AR and the little extra fire dmg is a plus as well.