Playing around with my Poisonmancer

[SPIDERfrank]

I need some advice on what setups to use for my PvM Poisonmancer. He's level 82 right now and needs to level a bit more and finish his quests. I have a 13/20 torch and 19/15/10 anni on him but NO PnB gcs yet. I also have a Might mercenary with a Gaze, Obedience (eth cryptic), and eth Duress b/c I use Skeleton Warriors as well. I've tried Trang's set before but I think I can do better with the items I have.

I'm just going to list the items I currently have at my disposal. I'm leaving it up to YOU GUYS to put the pieces together for me!!!! Please let me know pros and cons of different setups.

What I'm definately using:

Shako - Um
Enigma MP
Trang's Gloves

Yup, that's it so far...here's where it gets interesting:

20 resists Maras
+3 PnB skills amulet
2x SOJS
10%fcr/+18 life/+10 all resists, 28 lightning resist and other useless mods
10%fcr/+10 energy/+25 mana and other useless mods
Arachnid's Mesh
Trangs Belt
20/17 Marrowwalks
11/14/50 Treks
Homunculus - Um
41fire/40poison Trangs Head - P Diamond (possibly will remove for P Topaz 40% light resist....just a thought to match the +40 other resists in head)
2/4 Dweb with +5/-54 psn (my lovely...lovely wand)
40 resists HOTO
Wizardspike - Hel


So you can see, there's a myriad of possibilities I can go with. Let me know what you guys think...

Some things I'm trying to take into consideration - FCR (do I need to worry about this anyway?), Max Resists, FHR (trying to get 86%), Poison damage....

[DeathSpawn]

you can have 3 setups with those items:

#1 offensive and defensive
20 resists Maras
2x SOJS
20/17 Marrowwalks
Homunculus - Um
2/4 Dweb with +5/-54 psn (my lovely...lovely wand)

or

#2 offensive and defensive
20 resists Maras
2x SOJS
Trangs Belt
20/17 Marrowwalks
41fire/40poison Trangs Head - P Diamond (possibly will remove for P Topaz 40% light resist....just a thought to match the +40 other resists in head)
40 resists HOTO


most demaging setup would be:

20 resists Maras
2x SOJS
Trangs Belt
20/17 Marrowwalks
41fire/40poison Trangs Head - P Diamond (possibly will remove for P Topaz 40% light resist....just a thought to match the +40 other resists in head)
2/4 Dweb with +5/-54 psn (my lovely...lovely wand)
WITH trang gloves


in either case you need trang gloves. i think first setup its more offensive (more dmg less res) while the second is its opposite and also gives more life. i use the second because i dont have deaths web :cry:
dont know what helm you have but if you're going to use shako maybe 2nd setup is better.
also try to change your merc to defiance merc (boost to defense) or holy freeze merc

[muiy]

does anyone know if a poisonmancer with 18 5/5 die facets can do a boat load of damage? My theory for Uber killing is outfitting both the necro and a Act 3 merc with 5/5 die poison facets (should total about 34 facets). Jump in the middle of all 3 monsters and poison like no other. Of course you'll be dead after maybe 3 to 5 poison shots but then when you die you hit them with 2 lvl 51 novas and with a total of 180% added posion damage and 180% poison resistance lowered, that might finish em off.

Is this a sound theory or am I screwy in the head?

[DeathSpawn]

does anyone know if a poisonmancer with 18 5/5 die facets can do a boat load of damage? My theory for Uber killing is outfitting both the necro and a Act 3 merc with 5/5 die poison facets (should total about 34 facets). Jump in the middle of all 3 monsters and poison like no other. Of course you'll be dead after maybe 3 to 5 poison shots but then when you die you hit them with 2 lvl 51 novas and with a total of 180% added posion damage and 180% poison resistance lowered, that might finish em off.

Is this a sound theory or am I screwy in the head?

interesting idea, killing ubers with kamikaze chars, that idea would b egood before the servers we're "patched", if you try that now you will probably get CI :cry:
but i'm gonna try to do a simulation of that attack, i'll post dmg in a couple of minutes.

if poison exp and poison dag sinergye the poison nova from jewels the base dmg will be 7968 - 8140. then with 180% would go around 22400, ball and dia have 75 poison res while meph has 110, so with - 180% poison res that would hit baal and dia with -105% poison res and meph with -80 % poison res, at this moment i cant tell dmg because i dont know how it works with - res. i think it would do nice dmg however no enough to beat 650 000-660 000 hp from ubers even if you casted lower res.

[SPIDERfrank]

OK, the options have changed a little, which set is better for a poison/skeleton summon necromancer:

HOTO, Trang Belt, Trang Head (PTopaz), Um Shako

or

Dweb, Arachs, Homun (Um), Cham Shako

[AnimeCraze]

Why not dweb + trang belt + trang head + shako, and have HotO or even AoKL on switch (or even stash, for prebuff)? You don't have to be using the weapon you summon with, afterall.

If you, for whatever reason, must use 1 of the 2 above setup, I would recommend the second one. Read -poison resist as +total damage, except even godlier.

[dementedlullaby]

I find :

Blackbog's Sharp
Cinquedeas

One-Hand Damage: 30 To 76 (53 Avg)
Required Level 38
Required Strength: 25
Required Dexterity: 88
Durability: 24
Base Weapon Speed: [-20]
+488 Poison Damage Over 10 Seconds
Adds 15-45 Damage
30% Increased Attack Speed
Slows Target By 50%
+50 Defense
+4 To Poison Nova (Necromancer Only)
+4 To Poison Explosion (Necromancer Only)
+5 To Poison Dagger (Necromancer Only)
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)

pretty damn sexy. It's what my psnnecro uses

[AnimeCraze]

If you don't have dweb, this is a good weapon. It just can't compare with dweb, though. +40~50% nova damage on enemies is just......, incredible. Seeing how broken poison immunes die like flies is very satisfying.

[szenhidrat]

and why not put a 5/5 facet into trang head?
and my 2 question is:
is this nec good for PvP in vvhigh level ofc? i mean if 3 piece trang would give -25 pres and deathweb -50 and LR would drop every char's resist to 0 or below and then a nova with teeth until enemy is dead.Or these - resistanced don't apply on chars only monsters??

thanks

[SPIDERfrank]

well in PvP would I still use LR or should I use Decrepify?

[AnimeCraze]

and why not put a 5/5 facet into trang head?
and my 2 question is:
is this nec good for PvP in vvhigh level ofc? i mean if 3 piece trang would give -25 pres and deathweb -50 and LR would drop every char's resist to 0 or below and then a nova with teeth until enemy is dead.Or these - resistanced don't apply on chars only monsters??

thanksIt does apply, from what I heard. However, be warned about people drinking antidotes and stacking poison resist.

[Bjorgin]

does anyone know if a poisonmancer with 18 5/5 die facets can do a boat load of damage? My theory for Uber killing is outfitting both the necro and a Act 3 merc with 5/5 die poison facets (should total about 34 facets). Jump in the middle of all 3 monsters and poison like no other. Of course you'll be dead after maybe 3 to 5 poison shots but then when you die you hit them with 2 lvl 51 novas and with a total of 180% added posion damage and 180% poison resistance lowered, that might finish em off.

Is this a sound theory or am I screwy in the head?
What on earth are facets shoved onto your merc going to do for you?

[Wizard Sabin]

When his merc dies he will shoot off the level 51 Nova too, so it will hit the ubers harder.

[Darkflight]

When his merc dies he will shoot off the level 51 Nova too, so it will hit the ubers harder.

No, it will hit the Übers weaker. With the gear that the thread starter can afford, his Poison Nova with synergies and increase in posion skill damage will do much more damage than a puny lvl 51 poison Nova with no synergies and no +poison damage and -enemy poison resist. And he will survive MUCH easier.

[SPIDERfrank]

Can someone tell me though, whats better in duels??? LR or Decrep??

[MarShenk]

Can someone tell me though, whats better in duels??? LR or Decrep??

LR all the way. The bonus in the lowering of the opponents resist that it gives has to be used :grin:

[Hyphy]

you can have 3 setups with those items:

#1 offensive and defensive
20 resists Maras
2x SOJS
20/17 Marrowwalks
Homunculus - Um
2/4 Dweb with +5/-54 psn (my lovely...lovely wand)

or

#2 offensive and defensive
20 resists Maras
2x SOJS
Trangs Belt
20/17 Marrowwalks
41fire/40poison Trangs Head - P Diamond (possibly will remove for P Topaz 40% light resist....just a thought to match the +40 other resists in head)
40 resists HOTO


most demaging setup would be:

20 resists Maras
2x SOJS
Trangs Belt
20/17 Marrowwalks
41fire/40poison Trangs Head - P Diamond (possibly will remove for P Topaz 40% light resist....just a thought to match the +40 other resists in head)
2/4 Dweb with +5/-54 psn (my lovely...lovely wand)
WITH trang gloves


in either case you need trang gloves. i think first setup its more offensive (more dmg less res) while the second is its opposite and also gives more life. i use the second because i dont have deaths web :cry:
dont know what helm you have but if you're going to use shako maybe 2nd setup is better.
also try to change your merc to defiance merc (boost to defense) or holy freeze merc
Bad setups IMO

[herofallen]

Bad setups IMO


my last pvp build used :
shako
maras
35fcr spirit
enigma
dweb
arach
2x sojs rings
treks
trangs
torch anni
pnb gcs
that could kill anything pvm no problem pretty much, had some trouble pvp with trappers and some sorcs, but there you get 75fcr, never have problems with mana bout 10k psn nova

but now im a little richer and am in the process of making a new one with

CoA- shaeled, -15req +15res jewel (only need 148 strg)
good ammy /w 15fcr and atleast 20res
enigma
umed homo (or bered if your realy havin trouble with barbs, whcih i find eziest, get on ss)
dweb
arach
2xfcr rings
trangs
9x 5 res 20 life scs 1x 5fhr sc
1x pnb fhr 8x lifers
torch anni

with that build i have base strg, 75fcr,86fhr, max block, stacked max res, 15DR, 9k psn nova, and about 2.3k life

im still building atm but that just sounds badass ill let you guys know how it works but made mainly for pvp im sure id do find in pvm, pvms ez anyway lol

[unhatchedxEgg]

a while ago when i played diablo, my psn necro used:

shako, 5/5 psn facet
3 pnb ammy
arachnids
2x sojs
trangs gloves
treks
blackbogs, 5/5 psn facet
homunculus, 5/5 psn facet
bramble, +40% psn
3 pnb gcs

this was a while ago, and all of this only costed me 5 highs, which was like my fortune back then -_- but i wasnt disapointed in duels, but that was when power was better than survivability, i either killed the person in 3 seconds or they killed me in 5... if i remade the build today, i would only get a better bramble, an enigma in stash, some more gcs, and a 5/5'd death web, but thats sticking with the whole power dominates all thing...i guess you wouldnt stand a chance with that build now tho...or am i wrong